This is why we should bring back the death penalty

Red handed means they did it. Theres no miscarriage of justice. What are you not getting?

Why should the scumbag who murdered an innocent baby get to live when his victim didn’t?

I guess it depends what we call "living", @bluewanda

Ideally I'd like to see such offenders locked up for life with no possibility of parole ever, and preferably in the sort of facility which would minimise the amount we had to spend on their incarceration

I recognise, however, that the bleeding hearts have ensured this happens all too rarely, so we get calls for the death penalty instead - which is something I'll never agree with

I do know why. And it’s nothing to do with having the stomach for it. It’s because a civilized society does not kill people. And anyone who wants to do the killing is by definition somebody who should not be allowed to do it.

Well if you want a child murderer and rapist to live you must know why surely? Other than ‘I don’t have the stomach for it”.

@MiloMinderbinder925 Fred/Rose West, Priklopil there’s no possible miscarriage here is there?

@ilovesooty They were children- the one is now an adult. What value does he bring to anyone?

Well if you want a child murderer and rapist to live you must know why surely? Other than ‘I don’t have the stomach for it”.

@MiloMinderbinder925 Fred/Rose West, Priklopil there’s no possible miscarriage here is there?

@ilovesooty They were children- the one is now an adult. What value does he bring to anyone?

I was answering this:

And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed, they keep coming back to “they could be innocent” 🤦🏻‍♀️ and “we live in a civilised country” yeah right cause we do. With its two tier system

To reiterate, those 'caught red handed' are not executed because of possible miscarriages of justice and because the death penalty is considered a form of torture.

Could you explain how I'm missing the point?

What do you mean by sympathy? Not agreeing with the death penalty is not sympathising.

You’ve still missed the point 🥴

I'm guessing you're an opponent of international and human rights law. Most Western countries don't have the death penalty because of the risk of miscarriage of justice and because it's considered a form of torture.

Living in a decent and civilised society means that everyone is equal under the law. That includes convicted criminals I'm afraid. I take it you aren't in favour of a two tier justice system.

I think that it’s uncivilised for us, as a society to pay people to kill people. And anyone who wants to do the job should by definition not be allowed to do it. “Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind”

I don’t understand either. And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed, they keep coming back to “they could be innocent” 🤦🏻‍♀️ and “we live in a civilised country” yeah right cause we do. With its two tier system 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don’t understand either. And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed, they keep coming back to “they could be innocent” 🤦🏻‍♀️ and “we live in a civilised country” yeah right cause we do. With its two tier system 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm just wondering who here thinks Baby P's murderers (who I understand are out of jail already!!) should have received the death penalty?

Or James Bulger's killers, who offended repeatedly and will be paid to be protected for life, a cost to us all?

Be honest in your answer.

I don’t understand either. And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed, they keep coming back to “they could be innocent” 🤦🏻‍♀️ and “we live in a civilised country” yeah right cause we do. With its two tier system 🤷🏻‍♀️

No we are too gutless and lenient. No doubt it will continue.

I don’t understand the sympathetic posts, how you can sympathise or humanise a rapist, torturer, murderer of children is beyond me.

I'm just wondering who here thinks Baby P's murderers (who I understand are out of jail already!!) should have received the death penalty?

Or James Bulger's killers, who offended repeatedly and will be paid to be protected for life, a cost to us all?

Be honest in your answer.

No we are too gutless and lenient. No doubt it will continue.

I don’t understand the sympathetic posts, how you can sympathise or humanise a rapist, torturer, murderer of children is beyond me.

Not a flex just stating facts. And it doesn’t matter what you consider comfort. The bottom line of it is that people think prison is hard and a deterrent when in fact it not.

Never going to happen

What difference does it make? You want Rose West, or Priklopil released? The world would be a better place without them in it.

@NaiveDuck yes, I think they should have died. Why does it need to be a long drawn out process, firing squad would do.

Because where is the cut off line….

‘Most take their own lives before trial’

no they don’t