This is why we should bring back the death penalty

I'm so sorry you and your child went through that and that you had to deal with that poster's ridiculous comments.
I'm thinking that one is not the brightest of bulbs. Watching a lot of true crime doesn't make you an expert on anything.

Been thinking about this and you have no experience at all apart from "follow[ing] true crime and the DP in America" and yet you have the temerity to tell me, who has guided her own child through the horrific murder of their best friend, that you know better?! The victims father and I are in touch with each other, my child is in touch regularly with the victims mother.

I am genuinely not sure whether to laugh at your arrogance or cry at your insinuations that I know less that you because of what you saw on the telly.

The victim I have referenced has a memorial at the National Arobretum. I am very VERY pissed off at you suggesting I dont know what I am talking about.

It is permanent if the person is locked up for their whole life. What else would you call that, other than permanent?

I think for the cases where there is zero doubt the person did it, like in this case, the DP is warranted.

Perhaps those who expect the state to feed, house, clothe, medical care etc the person for life should pay for it? Do a poll, those who are against the death penalty (for cases like this) should have to pay tax in order to fund the inmates care. It shouldn't be put on those who don't want to pay for that person for life.

Not if the sentence was carried out within hours as it is in other countries.

It costs more to keep someone on death row until they are killed rather than in prison their whole life

It doesn't act ad a deterrent in any way

The wrong people get killed

It won't bring people they've murdered back

Been thinking about this and you have no experience at all apart from "follow[ing] true crime and the DP in America" and yet you have the temerity to tell me, who has guided her own child through the horrific murder of their best friend, that you know better?! The victims father and I are in touch with each other, my child is in touch regularly with the victims mother.

I am genuinely not sure whether to laugh at your arrogance or cry at your insinuations that I know less that you because of what you saw on the telly.

The victim I have referenced has a memorial at the National Arobretum. I am very VERY pissed off at you suggesting I dont know what I am talking about.

I don’t understand either. And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed, they keep coming back to “they could be innocent” 🤦🏻‍♀️ and “we live in a civilised country” yeah right cause we do. With its two tier system 🤷🏻‍♀️

Which brings up an interesting point. On a thread about euthanasia I was arguing that it could be misused to pressure vulnerable people into dying against their will.

Several posters said that even if that happened, it would be worth it to give all the other people the freedom from pain and end to their suffering.

I think the death penalty could be misused and lead to innocent people dying. I wonder if the posters who argued in favour of euthanasia would apply the same logic to the death penalty. Would they say the benefits to the many outweigh the risk to the few?

Is nobody interested in the impact of society of judicial killing, and the issue of the employment of executioners?

Not when it's a murderous psychopath who has killed people - especially children.

And I’ve heard and read that it doesn’t always provide closure. Common sense alone ought to suggest it’s highly improbable all victims’ families feel the same.

I’m afraid I just can’t take you seriously.

How would it cost more? Just change it so if someone is convicted of murder, they are hung, there and then. It will save all the costs of having them in jail for many years. Plus if the law is retroactively applied we can execute all those currently in jail for murder. It is literally a win/win situation.

What a bizarre take.

I’ll make it simple for you. The government has finite resources, the country is in the shit. We need to invest in children and take care of old people, not squander billions on expanding the criminal justice system to accommodate the death penalty.

YABU to use anything you read in the Daily Heil as the basis for forming a black and white opinion about a really complex issue.

You think social services could’ve helped Fred West?

I’m half-inclined to agree with you OP. However, I only think it should be used where there can be absolutely no doubt as to the guilt of the perpetrator e.g. in cases of mass murder in a public place where there are multiple witnesses to the crime, such as the Southport incident, or where the murder is caught on video.

If someone was serving a true whole life sentence and would never be released then I'd suggest education's less of a priority since they'd never be in a position to put it to much use

Social care's a bit more complex and it depends on what's meant by the term, but for me it certainly wouldn't include such things as counsellors or any social facility beyond the very simplest

As PPs have mentioned there are worse things than a quick death, and I'd be entirely comfortable with the very worst offfenders experiencing them

Not when it's a murderous psychopath who has killed people - especially children.

And not one person here has answered why the ones caught red handed can’t be executed.

Because killing people is wrong.