Page 5 | AIBU to want a party to "take on the rich and powerful"

Isitreallysohard · 25/07/2025 07:06

YABU to use the word woke. And also its only 'woke' people who recognise that inequality

Vivienne1000 · 25/07/2025 07:05

Are you a jealous person? Do you resent hard work and success? Would you rather those people lived elsewhere?

Stripeysockspots · 25/07/2025 07:05

I thought you meant a knees up

Anotherdayanothernamechanging · 25/07/2025 07:04

Too right OP! Let’s have a country with a population comprised of the poor and weak! I’m sure that country will be a huge success!

Brilliant idea!

Cinaferna · 25/07/2025 07:03

Nellodee · 24/07/2025 21:00

Unfortunately, Britain makes a lot of its money from being a financial hub. A ruling party needs to be pragmatic, as many things that seem “fair” could end up costing us a lot of revenue in the long run.

But we used to be producers - of wool and steel and pottery as well as coal and tin - world-class materials.

It's sad that all we seem to be now is a a financial hub.

I agree with OP. It would be great to have a party that served not ruled if it got into power, and used that power to improve the quality of everyday life. No for-profit driving anything that affects infrastructure - so transport, hospitals, education, utilities, cleaning and maintaining public places would all be profit free and have money ploughed back into improving their services.

That doesn't have to be anti-capitalist. But anti vulture-capitalism would be a refreshing change. It is not financially sustainable that all the money bottlenecks at the very top of society. A society in which everyone is paid enough to have a disposable income generates industry, jobs, and innovation.

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 07:03

LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 07:00

I agree - as I suspect most people would. But the trouble is that nobody seems to have an efficient and workable idea for that.

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It is a lack of will, not a lack of ideas.

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 07:02

MidnightPatrol · 25/07/2025 06:56

In what way do you see the ‘rich and the powerful’ as the issue?

Growing inequality is very corrosive to social cohesion. Nothing good can ever flourish in a low trust society. The gap between rich and poor is expanding at quite a rate now. The rich used to build libraries and schools and hospitals, and housing for their workers. Now they just live in ivory towers. Economic decline, and high migration is a recipe for disaster. David Betz, professor of Warfare at UCL or KCL, I can't remember says the UK, nationally, will look like Northern Ireland at the peak of the troubles within 5-20 years.

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LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 07:00

BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:56

In the most gentle and bloodless way possible.

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I agree - as I suspect most people would. But the trouble is that nobody seems to have an efficient and workable idea for that.

Datadriven · 25/07/2025 07:00

I’d prefer a party that creates policies focussed on making the poor and powerless better off.
What level of “rich and powerful” are you hoping to take on? Successful entrepreneurs? CEOs, board level execs of large companies? Medium sized companies? Or billionaires? Royalty? Land-owners? What’s your definition? And what will happen if your party succeeds?
We already know plenty of incredibly hardworking, intelligent, successful people who have taken their skills elsewhere. it’s not easy to do the jobs that they do, that’s why they are paid a lot. Be very careful what you wish for.
What policies would your party implement? And how would they benefit the country, and the poor?

Boomer55 · 25/07/2025 06:59

Corbyn etc with their student political views stand no chance. 🙄

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:58

Miamamio · 25/07/2025 06:57

You mean to take on the Elite?

There are many elites

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Miamamio · 25/07/2025 06:57

You mean to take on the Elite?

MidnightPatrol · 25/07/2025 06:56

In what way do you see the ‘rich and the powerful’ as the issue?

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:56

LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 06:47

I don't really think we have an 'open border' but I understand what you mean. I'd be interested to know how you think we could close it.

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In the most gentle and bloodless way possible.

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Soulfulunfurling · 25/07/2025 06:56

BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:42

I don't imagine that's what the poster was meaning

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You were the poster I was answering! You said where is all the money? And I answered your question!

Strawberrri · 25/07/2025 06:55

Every adult in Uk shops via Amazon to buy the cheapest option of clothes, electrical goods, widgets, household goods all of which are made in China (a few in Vietnam etc)
Sooooooo our money is going to American finance companies Amazon,PayPal, world pay etc whose profits go to California with a bit of tax paid to Ireland. China earns the rest.

The only people making from these colossal companies are the delivery drivers and Amazon warehouses (people rave about Amazon as being good employers haha),
so all our earnings go abroad.
So the rich people such as few remaining business owners in th UK should be hammered with high tax?Wealthy people in the U.K. who may have made their money overseas or might be foreign born should fork out for all these benefit payments the bottomless NHS. ??

LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 06:47

BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:43

The war on women and open border mostly.

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I don't really think we have an 'open border' but I understand what you mean. I'd be interested to know how you think we could close it.

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:43

LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 06:36

What's wrong with 'the woke stuff'? What 'woke stuff' don't you like?

The war on women and open border mostly.

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:42

Soulfulunfurling · 25/07/2025 06:39

Take a look at the ballooning bills for social care or the immigration accommodation bill? Or the NHS for that matter. Defence. All of this is ‘invisible’ but costing tens of billions.

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I don't imagine that's what the poster was meaning

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Soulfulunfurling · 25/07/2025 06:39

BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:24

Where is all that money going? Its hard to believe it is actually circulating around the country in a way people would actually feel, when standards of living are falling and the middle classes are being squeezed into non existence

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Take a look at the ballooning bills for social care or the immigration accommodation bill? Or the NHS for that matter. Defence. All of this is ‘invisible’ but costing tens of billions.

LillyPJ · 25/07/2025 06:36

What's wrong with 'the woke stuff'? What 'woke stuff' don't you like?

Soulfulunfurling · 25/07/2025 06:36

They have no chance - they are an aging bunch of middle class hippies pretending to be rebels because they were too well behaved at school.

If they ever had a stab at government they would sink the country overnight. The markets and investors would shrink and evaporate on impact. You would lose most public services, and poverty would rocket. It’s would be quickest way to become the equivalent of North Korea.

No thanks.

hattie43 · 25/07/2025 06:35

The Rich and powerful keep society functioning . They start businesses , keep people employed etc

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:24

Nellodee · 24/07/2025 21:00

Unfortunately, Britain makes a lot of its money from being a financial hub. A ruling party needs to be pragmatic, as many things that seem “fair” could end up costing us a lot of revenue in the long run.

Where is all that money going? Its hard to believe it is actually circulating around the country in a way people would actually feel, when standards of living are falling and the middle classes are being squeezed into non existence

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BlueJuniper94 · 25/07/2025 06:21

hiintrepidheroes · 24/07/2025 21:03

Sadly we live in a country where no one wants to vote for parties that would do something about the things they complain about.

Gaza, terrible. Education funding, terrible. NHS funding, terrible.

But oh no, it’s too extreme to vote for a party that would tackle these issues.

Who is that party?

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