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Unisex toilets in new office - dread going into work

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SocialMol · 24/07/2025 20:32

The company I work for moved to a new office a few weeks ago. It is brand new and shared 50/50 with another company. We have our own side of the floor, key card protected so completely separate.

However, the toilets are in the middle of the block so are shared with the other company. These are unisex - several cubicles with shared area for sinks/dryers etc.

The other company is a sales one (they run a call centre there) and the demographic of their workforce is mainly young men in their 20’s.

There have been several instances of inappropriate comments made to staff in the toilets. Crass stuff like ‘give that cubicle 5 minutes’ to cruder comments directed at or about women - the men will often be talking about their own colleagues in a derogatory way in front of us.

The final straw for me was this afternoon when I walked out of a cubicle and a spotty young lad said he will ‘join me next time’ 😷

Our company are aware of our concerns but said there’s nothing they can do, as the toilets are designed to be ‘inclusive’ and similar to the other modern office blocks they viewed.

I don’t really know what I’m looking for by posting this to be honest, just wanted to know if anyone else finds this sort of set up completely ridiculous?

OP posts:
GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/07/2025 22:17

You need to keep complaining. It's unacceptable that you are being exposed to sexual harassment in this way.

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 24/07/2025 22:16

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Jk987 · 24/07/2025 22:14

Is your CEO a man?

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/07/2025 22:09

I am not a fan of unisex toilets but these are not even correct for unisex toilets.

Maybe the easiest thing is to ask for a wall to split the room. This would be easier than moving all the sinks into the cubicles. It would also give you more cubicles. I would really emphasise that you want single sex cubicles with door gaps - they are safer, more hygienic and don’t smell as much.

Any changes to toilets should regard building regs (Document T, 2024).

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67167c02d100972c0f4c9b38/ADT_2024.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67167c02d100972c0f4c9b38/ADT_2024.pdf

LoserWinner · 24/07/2025 22:09

OlympicProcrastinator · 24/07/2025 21:00

Actually women fought for separate facilities because of extremely high rate of sexual assaults in the days they were forced to share.

That’s hardly likely to be a risk in office toilets. I despair at the lack of common sense and hypersensitivity of people today.

BundleBoogie · 24/07/2025 22:06

SouthernNights59 · 24/07/2025 21:59

I agree. Honestly, the things I read about on MN which people can't cope with these days and which causes MH issues astounds me.

So you think it is perfectly ok for employers to break the law and for men to harass and make women feel uncomfortable when they want to use the toilets?

Maybe you are a fan of angry confrontations with men in an enclosed space but I think that is an unusual attitude. Why don’t you think OP deserves to use the toilet at work without being hassled by men?

Lovemybunnies · 24/07/2025 22:06

OP your employer has a legal duty which came into being in 2024 to protect you from sexual harassment. Your employer must take reasonable steps to protect you and be proactive not reactive. Ring ACAS and ask for advice. www.acas.org.uk/sexual-harassment/steps-for-employers-to-prevent-sexual-harassment

Hoardasurass · 24/07/2025 22:03

@SocialMol the toilet's are illegal. To be legal mixed sex facilities they must be fully inclosed space with floor to ceiling doors and wall with a sink in the room.
Your company is discriminating against you and facilitating the sexual harassment of the female staff and breaking the workplace health and safety act 1992 which says separate single sex facilities must be provided except where there isn't space and fully inclosed legal unisex facilities for use by 1 person at a time (which yours aren't).
You need to have a serious word with hr as this situation is not ok or legal

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 24/07/2025 22:01

@LoserWinner

'Oh, for goodness’ sake! I assume you are a grown woman? Just deal with it. Tell the oikish twerps to show a bit of respect and get on with your life. The human race somehow managed to survive when whole streets shared outdoor loos. I’m sure sharing cubicle toilets in a modern building won’t kill anyone.'

Still recovering from that lobotomy? You should go and hang out in the toilets at OPs workplace. Maybe they'll pick you! Bless.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 24/07/2025 21:59

Employers have a duty of care to make sure you're safe at work (and that includes taking reasonable steps to prevent things like sexual harassment). If you've told them you're getting harassed they need to do something to sort it, nit just tell you to get over it. They can speak to the landlords, speak to the other tenant etc as a first step

SouthernNights59 · 24/07/2025 21:59

LoserWinner · 24/07/2025 20:45

Oh, for goodness’ sake! I assume you are a grown woman? Just deal with it. Tell the oikish twerps to show a bit of respect and get on with your life. The human race somehow managed to survive when whole streets shared outdoor loos. I’m sure sharing cubicle toilets in a modern building won’t kill anyone.

I agree. Honestly, the things I read about on MN which people can't cope with these days and which causes MH issues astounds me.

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 24/07/2025 21:59

'Our company are aware of our concerns but said there’s nothing they can do'

Your company are breaking the law. They are legally obliged to provide a safe and dignified working environment. You're being sexually harassed and should raise a complaint. There is no point in discussing it further with them.

BundleBoogie · 24/07/2025 21:58

LoserWinner · 24/07/2025 20:45

Oh, for goodness’ sake! I assume you are a grown woman? Just deal with it. Tell the oikish twerps to show a bit of respect and get on with your life. The human race somehow managed to survive when whole streets shared outdoor loos. I’m sure sharing cubicle toilets in a modern building won’t kill anyone.

Obviously the human race can survive all sorts of challenging conditions but a) we don’t live in the 1800s, b) I think not getting raped or murdered while using the toilet at work is a pretty low bar. Why can’t OP expect to turn up at work and have lawful and suitable toilet facilities to use during her day? Without having to run the gauntlet of misogynistic men and have nasty confrontations just to use the loo?

Your comment is as nasty as it is ridiculous.

doodleZ1 · 24/07/2025 21:53

LoserWinner · 24/07/2025 20:45

Oh, for goodness’ sake! I assume you are a grown woman? Just deal with it. Tell the oikish twerps to show a bit of respect and get on with your life. The human race somehow managed to survive when whole streets shared outdoor loos. I’m sure sharing cubicle toilets in a modern building won’t kill anyone.

She doesn’t have to deal with it there are laws. We either ensure they are enforced or women’s rights go backwards.

DorothyStorm · 24/07/2025 21:52

doodleZ1 · 24/07/2025 21:49

No it’s a toilet problem and breaking the law problem. That’s why we have the law to protect women from men.

Both are true.
complain to HR.report wvery shitry msn who makes a shitty comment. Every single time. Conplete the online complaint forms.

Answeringaquestiontonight · 24/07/2025 21:50

I would ask your company to clarify that they are now not dealing with sexual harrassment. Just because it is said in the toilets doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue. They should absolutely raising this with the other organisation you are co located with. Either directly or via building management.

doodleZ1 · 24/07/2025 21:49

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 24/07/2025 21:45

If this is true, your work place has a misogyny and sexual harassment problem, not a toilet problem.

No it’s a toilet problem and breaking the law problem. That’s why we have the law to protect women from men.

Thelnebriati · 24/07/2025 21:49

(Also you shouldn't have to travel an unreasonable distance, and a cubicle is not designated as being suitable for women unless it contains a sanitary waste bin.)

You can make a complaint online;

https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/tell-us-about-a-health-and-safety-issue.htm

Tell us about a health and safety issue - Contact HSE

Tell us about a health and safety issue in your workplace, another workplace or a public space.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/tell-us-about-a-health-and-safety-issue.htm

doodleZ1 · 24/07/2025 21:48

OP right at the bottom of my link there’s a bit abt your employers responsibility re toilets. It states:

“Under the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 and the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974, employers are required to provide “suitable and sufficient” sanitary conveniences. This includes providing separate facilities for men and women, except where each convenience is in a self-contained room with a door that can be secured from the inside. These obligations are not optional and are legally an obligation

OP it’s up to the owner of the premises to provide these facilities and not have facilities that are illegal. A cubicle is not a self contained room.

Foreverm0re · 24/07/2025 21:47

I wouldn’t want to share toilet facilities with men even if they were polite and not sexist pigs.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 24/07/2025 21:45

If this is true, your work place has a misogyny and sexual harassment problem, not a toilet problem.

Thunderdcc · 24/07/2025 21:42

Given the comments etc it is not outside the realm of possibility that these are the kind of men who put cameras in toilets. So I think

1 - you are not prepared to go back into the office until the toilets have been swept for bugs / cameras. And this may sound over the top but the other company need to have a long hard look at their workforce culture.

2 - the toilets need to be designated single sex and it sounds like the ladies will need to be locked with a radar key or similar so these men are unable to access it

Or you go onto another floor for the toilet and see if the people in those companies are more civilised.

Vaxtable · 24/07/2025 21:37

I would be making* an immediate complaint to the other company, as well as your companies HR and advise them it needs to be sorted pronto

its totally unacceptable

doodleZ1 · 24/07/2025 21:34

Op hope this helps it’s up to date as well