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Fed up of my cousins comments about benefits and UC

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glassor2 · 24/07/2025 16:17

I’m a single mum of two kids, ages 13 and 5. My older son has a relationship with his dad, but my younger son’s dad moved away a couple of years ago and doesn’t see him often-usually once or twice a year. He doesn’t provide any financial support, and since he moves around for work (he used to live in Canada and now lives in Australia), it has been challenging to get child maintenance to chase him.

I work 3-4 days a week (sometimes more if there’s overtime available) and receive a top up from UC. My mum occasionally helps with child care, but she also has a full time job. It can be difficult handling everything on my own, but I manage.

Anyway, I have a family member I'm quite close to, and she often makes comments, not aimed at me, but towards people who claim UC. For example, she mentioned that it's unfair for her to pay almost £300 a month in tax while others can work part time and avoid paying anything (I don’t earn enough to pay tax) and that she has to pay more to subsidise the people that don't. She even told the entire family that she pays almost £400 a month, including national insurance, which made things awkward and nobody knew what to say.

From what I know, she doesn't earn a huge wage, so I can see why it would be frustrating for her to have to pay that much. It's a lot of money. However, it's not our fault, and if she's upset, her anger should be directed at the government, not at those who are rightfully claiming.

Everyone’s situation is different, and some people need help. I never chose to be a single parent, and I can't control the fact that my ex chose to leave and decided not to support his child financially. I'm doing my best, just like many others on UC are.

I don't think she's intentionally trying to upset me, but she is.

AIBU? How do I tackle this?

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2025 18:34

XenoBitch · 24/07/2025 18:28

You either want to maintain a certain lifestyle, or neither of you made provisions for retirement. In either case, you are both choosing to work. You are making it sound you are being forced to work to fund OP's UC.

You wont get a medal for being a martyr, and no one on their death bed has uttered that they wished they worked more.

Look at the ages quoted. They’re boomers. The generation who had it all.

XenoBitch · 24/07/2025 18:34

oopsHereItIs · 24/07/2025 18:30

This. And if you are on UC, you thank the support system and accept that you are living off hardworking taxpayers. Don't be unreasonable and whine about it.

OP is not whining about it.
She posted on here asking how she can stop her cousin making shitty comments about it.

Believe me, those of us on UC just want to get on with our lives and not have other people bringing it up.

MrsCheekyChops · 24/07/2025 18:33

glassor2 · 24/07/2025 16:29

I don’t mention it, she’s the one who brings it up. It’s not a choice for me. I can’t work full time because I don’t have anyone to help with my son, especially since his dad chose to leave and ignore all his responsibilities.

It is a choice though. You would get help with childcare costs which would cover 85% of the total you pay. Your choosing to work part time and blaming it on not having help

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2025 18:33

oopsHereItIs · 24/07/2025 18:30

This. And if you are on UC, you thank the support system and accept that you are living off hardworking taxpayers. Don't be unreasonable and whine about it.

Very many claimants of UC are hardworking taxpayers. Or did you not realise that in lots of cases benefit claimants are also paying tax ?

21ZIGGY · 24/07/2025 18:33

glassor2 · 24/07/2025 17:32

@PixiePuffBall You've made yourself look a bit silly by admitting you have a partner, who I assume helps you with raising your kids. Unfortunately, I don't have that support.

'A bit silly' is quite the understatement!

GoodOldTrayBake · 24/07/2025 18:33

Needmorelego · 24/07/2025 16:30

@H1lll @Pollqueen Perhaps the father of the 5 year old shouldn't have buggered off and left the OP in the lurch and only being able to work part time.
Blame him not her.

Perhaps people shouldn’t have kids they can’t afford with feckless, irresponsible men…

Flowergirlie91 · 24/07/2025 18:32

Evaka · 24/07/2025 17:32

Doesn't bother me in the slightest and I pay a fuck tonne of tax every month. I'm glad the system takes care of people who need support and hope it supports me if my circumstances change. You might not be able to work full-time some day for reasons beyond your control. Do you really hope you'll just have to make do?

100% with you. So do I and Im happy it supports people who need it. I hope it will be there for me if god forbid I end up in a situation where I need support.

MoveOverToTheSea · 24/07/2025 18:31

Needmorelego · 24/07/2025 16:38

It's funny how "benefits" are evil but "funding" for childcare from 9 months is fine.
It's all government money isn't it?

Or child benefit that I’m sure the cousin is receiving….
So the ‘I’m not getting any help unlike these scroungers’ doesn’t even work.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2025 18:31

Crikeyalmighty · 24/07/2025 18:11

It doesn’t matter whether these fathers pay for the children or not. If you are entitled to benefits it’s disregarded- personally I think that’s nuts in so many ways - it disincentives full time working if you are getting a fair whack of maintenance ( someone I know gets close on £1000) so does as little work as she can get away with and I think it creates resentment with others not in that position who work full time to end up with far less. I also think it incentivises ‘artificial splits’

But the maintenance is payable for the children, so why would it be a disincentive ?

Coconutter24 · 24/07/2025 18:31

Thefaceofboe · 24/07/2025 17:37

Fair but childcare here is more a day than my daily wage 🙃

A single mum working full time would get a lot of their childcare paid for by UC

oopsHereItIs · 24/07/2025 18:30

H1lll · 24/07/2025 16:23

Stop talking about it as there are a lot of people (myself included) who agree with her. We both work need to work full time to pay our bills so I don’t agree with others being able to choose to work part time and the tax payer pick up the bill

This. And if you are on UC, you thank the support system and accept that you are living off hardworking taxpayers. Don't be unreasonable and whine about it.

Flowergirlie91 · 24/07/2025 18:29

Ignore the nasty comments OP. I pay loads more tax than £400 and Im happy to do so. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in high paying employment and looking after kids whilst working full time in low paid jobs is almost impossible. I gladly pay a bit more tax so that people leas fortunate can get support when they need it. Doesn’t sound like you’re abusing the system to me. Well done on making it work for your family. Don’t listen to your friend xx

Flowergirlie91 · 24/07/2025 18:29

Ignore the nasty comments OP. I pay loads more tax than £400 and Im happy to do so. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in high paying employment and looking after kids whilst working full time in low paid jobs is almost impossible. I gladly pay a bit more tax so that people leas fortunate can get support when they need it. Doesn’t sound like you’re abusing the system to me. Well done on making it work for your family. Don’t listen to your friend xx

XenoBitch · 24/07/2025 18:28

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 24/07/2025 17:43

@glassor2 my husband at 72 is still working nearly full time. still paying tax. to keep people like you in UC!! I am 70 and also still paying a whack of tax!!

You either want to maintain a certain lifestyle, or neither of you made provisions for retirement. In either case, you are both choosing to work. You are making it sound you are being forced to work to fund OP's UC.

You wont get a medal for being a martyr, and no one on their death bed has uttered that they wished they worked more.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 24/07/2025 18:28

MugsyBalonz · 24/07/2025 18:18

I don't see how I can explain it to you any more clearly. You either have difficulty with reading comprehension or are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not engaging any further on the posts quoted. I said what I said and if you don't get it then that's on you.

You haven't explained anything.

Btowngirl · 24/07/2025 18:27

Mushroo · 24/07/2025 16:27

Point out that if she’s only paying £400pcm in tax she’s definitely not a net contributor, and she too, is being subsidised by higher earners.

I pay A LOT more than that in tax, and don’t begrudge it going to people that need it, it’s how a civilised society works 🤷‍♀️

Agree with this. Im lucky and enjoy my quality of life, good luck & prosperity to those who need a helping hand 🤷‍♀️

MugsyBalonz · 24/07/2025 18:27

Userjal · 24/07/2025 18:23

Oh yeh I hear they’re giving away high paid jobs at the minute

And right next door to the jobs, they're handing out easy access childcare that's open 24/7 and always has spaces. As for sacrifices, no one needs three meals a day or light and heating, walking is free so no need for a car or a travel pass, and water falls out of the sky when it rains so why pay for utilities?

Breadcat24 · 24/07/2025 18:25

OP I hope your circumstances change as your children get older and that you can either develop your job into a better paying one, or have the opportunity to get a better job.
I also hope that at some point some governments agree to a system whereby some bloke who dodges his parental responsibilities by going overseas can still get pursued to pay a legal requirement.

Dweetfidilove · 24/07/2025 18:24

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 24/07/2025 17:43

@glassor2 my husband at 72 is still working nearly full time. still paying tax. to keep people like you in UC!! I am 70 and also still paying a whack of tax!!

I hope you're doing that because you enjoy your jobs and not because you made no provisions for retirement.

I wouldn't want to be working at 72, except I wanted to continue doing something or for a worthy cause.

raven0007 · 24/07/2025 18:23

I have worked both full time as a single parent and part time as a single parent. I worked full time at minimum wage, I paid tax but not a lot. During that time, claiming childcare for two children, I received more in ‘tax payers’ money, than I did part time due to the childcare costs.
Working part time, I still pay a little tax but not a lot, and I now don’t have to claim back any child costs.
So, working full time I put a tiny amount into the system but took out a lot more. Working part time, I put in a tiny amount and take out less.

Userjal · 24/07/2025 18:23

PixiePuffBall · 24/07/2025 17:25

Frankly, get a higher paying job or make sacrifices. Like the rest of us do to pay for childcare

Oh yeh I hear they’re giving away high paid jobs at the minute

Spindrifts · 24/07/2025 18:23

Please don't take this personally. You are doing your best. Just tell your cousin that everyone has their own personal situation, that we are all doing our best to get buy, and there is no one size fits all. Keep repeating it till she gets the message. Like that you take ownership of your feelings and put boundaries in place.

Viviennemary · 24/07/2025 18:20

Crikeyalmighty · 24/07/2025 18:11

It doesn’t matter whether these fathers pay for the children or not. If you are entitled to benefits it’s disregarded- personally I think that’s nuts in so many ways - it disincentives full time working if you are getting a fair whack of maintenance ( someone I know gets close on £1000) so does as little work as she can get away with and I think it creates resentment with others not in that position who work full time to end up with far less. I also think it incentivises ‘artificial splits’

I agree it's ludicrous. I read once about somebody getting £4k a month maintenance but it was disregarded and she still claimed benefit. Utter madness.

millymollymoomoo · 24/07/2025 18:19

Well I agree with her mainly

uc shouldn’t provide a lifestyle choice eg we all know people who work pt then top up. This should not be the case . If propld can afford to work pt great but if you need top ups then you should be working full time, there are also people who live on benefits fir decades, this should nt be allpwed

and of course in your case op your child’s dad should be paying maintenance - and this should be easier to get and collect even when a dad tries to duck the system

MugsyBalonz · 24/07/2025 18:18

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 24/07/2025 18:11

No you're missing the point. The rent is due. How do you propse the landlord should get paid?

I don't see how I can explain it to you any more clearly. You either have difficulty with reading comprehension or are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not engaging any further on the posts quoted. I said what I said and if you don't get it then that's on you.

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