Fed up of my cousins comments about benefits and UC

@glassor2 Oh I have an idea why don’t you make another account on here and next time you spend time with the cousin skip the post and show her some comments?

Remember its not just income people pay tax on. So while some may earn 41k, they may pay less other tax than someone on less.

Well pip will soon be UC too like all the other legacy benefits 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ha ha, I was getting a little worried then.😀

Duh I know that 🙄

real world how UC works
40k wage - 2600 a month
UC top up ( includes childcare capped at 1000) £1500
childcare cost £2000 south east
rent £1500 social 'affordable housing'
Leaves 600 for food, car , bills ect

She’s not a real person.

Then she'd probably be entitled to PIP if her medical need is that bad.
Is PIP acceptable? Or bad?
Or is just UC bad?

Seriously. How did you get a well paid job with those logic skills? Only fans?
I'm not on benefits nor single nor a parent but I can certainly see why it would get difficult.
I get 2k a month take home (degree, professional, experienced)
Rent is 1k, bills food and petrol are 1k.
2k gone before child related expenses. Where is the nursery fees coming from?

I agree with you needmorelego

Ha, it is ok. That poster is drawn to benefit threads like a fly to rotten meat.

Id dearly love to be able to work full time, unfortunately it's not an option due to disability. Not that I haven't tried to, I have but it resulted in me a) attempting suicide and b)then being unable to work at all for the next 3 1/2 years. Whilst I may not pay a lot of tax I've always felt working part time was better than not working at all.

Also it not just as simple as get more hours etc. I did ask for more hours at the start of the year, unfortunately due to how business is going everyone is currently on contract hours, there are no extra hours available. Which I can see being an issue for those on UC.

I don't claim UC but I imagine I'd be one of the people people complain about if i did.

And yes obviously I'd love a better high paying job, Im not uneducated (I have a BA degree! ) unfortunately being disabled wasn't in my life plans for the future. And also higher paid jobs tend to understandably come with more responsibility and as a consequence more stress and unfortunately that is something which massively worsens my condition.

I’m on minimum wage full time I pay 800 a month part time childcare

It’s not real people, it’s an example of how mad the system is. If it makes you feel better, the wife is a narcoleptic with a cough medicine addiction so needs childcare.

Could you live on £800pm?

How do you know she does "nothing".
You have no idea about her life.
Very rude thing to say.

A man can get out of paying for his own child by deciding not to. Yet complete strangers (ie the tax payers) need to suck it up and pay more.

Fathers should not expect others to substitise their choices to have kids and not pay for them, I agree. The govt should make sure they pay

This ^ I appreciate it isn't always the father but it usually is... These feckless parents are making our society turn on each other.

Honestly I wouldn't bother having the argument with her personally, because I find people who make that kind of comment are rarely capable of thinking critically about what it means to live in a society. Same with a lot of people on this thread.

In purely transactional terms the care work you do for your kids is a net benefit to society (in terms of raising future contributors) - it's just made invisible because we don't value care work as we should. So you're doing two jobs really. That could be something you point out. Another is that if she'd prefer to work part time, she can choose that - she may find it's not as lucrative as she'd imagined. The BMW showrooms and posh restaurants of this world are not filled with single parents spending their Universal Credit money.

£800 is all you get??? That's quite a lot of money for doing nothing.

Those jobs need to pay a living wage, not be topped up by the public purse. Yes, public sector employees are paid out of taxes, so it is semantics there, but anyone employed in the private sector should be paid a high enough hourly rate to not need benefits. But employers know they don't need to do this while the public purse is supporting them to keep their wages low.

What's the reason?
Nursery before the age of 3 is childcare.
You only need childcare if you aren't at home with your child.
If you aren't at work..... you're at home.
Nursery before 3 is a choice if it's not needed for childcare.

I did break it down already, my thumb is getting a bit tired now.

That's different. I refering to BoldBears example of a two parent household with one parent working.

You are correct. But her level of contributions affect her eligibility for benefits like State Pension.. so she gets something back from it eventually.

Well for a start 93 is just their basic salary doesn’t cover expenses and as you say most earn elsewhere. Minimum wage is what 25000ish they pay 20% 5000 leaving 20000. Someone earning 125k may well pay 40% at 50000 but it does leave 75000 to spend in comparison it’s ten times more paid nearly 4 times more left isn’t it?