Fed up of my cousins comments about benefits and UC

No I think you should receive it, I think it should be used for things like that.

I agree with you wholeheartedly needmorelego. You talk a lot of sense

Sorry it's too late in the evening for maths so I haven't a clue 😂
I was just saying that even those on part time low wage jobs pay tax.
I paid tax from 18 (or is it 16 as I had a part time job?) until 31 despite rarely going above minimum wage.
I don't pay tax now as I am a carer and receive carer's allowance.
Should I not be entitled to the carers allowance (that comes from the government pot) just because I "only" paid a smaller amount of tax due to my low wage?

Do you think landlords should house people for free then?

You need to think this through logically. If I gave you £10 from my piggy bank and charged you 10% that goes straight back in the piggy bank. How have you contributed to the piggy bank? Just to avoid confusion, this is not a real piggy bank.

Scrounger? nice

I will just add a point to those saying employers need to pay more- when we lived in Denmark, their minimum wage actually was not much higher than the UKs , nor was swedens and other Northern European countries too - and with much higher tax levels and less generous tax free allowances. The big difference wasn’t to do with wages, it’s to do with costs - childcare in Copenhagen even for babies was around £280 a month - full time. There was an awful lot more good quality social housing available ‘if Danish’ ( although some refugees got it too) sensible money - there isn’t any council tax, utilities were lower. So whilst people may actually have been taking home slightly less ( if at the lower end of the wages spectrum) their costs out of income were often less. There was also an expectation that unless disabled then both people in a couple worked full time, or close to it , as did single parents - and appropriate wrap around care seemed good.
the people actually it was tougher on were higher earners not benefitting from childcare or social housing and paying high tax but it seemed to be accepted that this was how it was for an ordered society .

as things stand here we have ended up with an awful lot of low to middling wages, moderate tax up to a certain level but poor services and ridiculously high costs and an expectation that low earners can work part time and just get top ups.

the system to put it bluntly doesn’t work and we need to look to places like Scandinavia and see why it does work - problem is it wouldn’t suit those who want to be paid to stay at home or a lot of older well off people who don’t see why they should be paying 42% tax at their stage for stuff they aren’t benefitting from on a day to day basis.

Unless you have a breakdown of all tax she has paid and all the money she has used, you can't possibly know that.
You can't just through an arbitrary number (even if it's from Google, which will be an average at best) and say below this is scrounger above this us contributor.

It was in response to another comment.

And?

Yes and even part time and/or low wage workers will pay some tax.
They might not be adding as much into the pot but they are adding some.

Sure but from money they got from the government paid for from peoples taxes. Wooden dollars as they say.

They aren’t really paying tax on purchases. They are giving back the money through a purchase to the government who gave it to them in the first place.

But it’s totally irrelevant to the op, she is a single parent and you are taking about a couple, a well off couple

No it really isn’t. It’s the money we are contribute to the government through paying taxes.

Yes. Some buy more than others.
Smokers, drinkers, drivers for eg will pay a lot more tax than a non smoking tee totaller with no car.

Her cousin is not a net contributor. So she takes more than she pays. She is a hypocrite.

you seem to think that it's unfair for your cousin to have to pay tax - where do you think the money to pay benefits should come from FFS?

Maybe ask why people are too ill to work?

Most single parents are opting to do this though!

Well health related benefits are soaring. So many more people claiming to be too ill to work. It’s totally and utterly unrealistic that these claims are real. No other country has seen such a ludicrous ‘ill health’ explosion. And speak to any GP and you’ll hear how frustrated they are that people aren’t helping themselves at all. Do they take medication? do they eat healthily? Do they exercise? No, can’t be arsed.

You don’t pay tax on expenses so MPs are not additional rate tax payers (unless they have another source of income). Many back benchers don’t have other sources of income. I wouldn’t do their job for the pay they get. Travelling up and down the country, spending lots of time away from their families unless their constituency is close to London. I earned more WFH full time. And that’s before you consider that a couple of them have been murdered in recent years.

I’m talking about the tax burden. Someone on £25k pays about £2400 in income tax. Someone on £125k pays about £42k in income tax. But you want them to pay more….People earning £100k+ get a really bad deal in this country when compared to many other countries. That’s why they are leaving. But you want to drive more of them away. Bite the hand that feeds you.

Oh bore off,

I chose to have a child that I don’t want someone else to raise. I was claiming money back from uc to pay my childcare alongside my rent and other elements because my wage wouldn’t cover my rent council tax childcare fuel for car tax for car insurance for car…. Electric gas water food repairs etc!!! I had stopped claiming childcare costs until this coming September which means I wasn’t taking it off the government like I had been so why aren’t mothers allowed to stay home longer and not take the funded or even 85% paid or tax free surely it’s no better off. I’ll be taking even more funding from them when In reality without the pressure I’d stay home till my child was a little older and not take the childcare that isn’t actually free the government fund it. It’s such a backwards way of running things and you muppets that mona. Have no clue

This isn’t how taxes work. Earn £25k, half of that is tax free (nil rate band) so income tax is 20% of £12,500. Same with higher rates of tax. You get charged at different bands.

I would get this toxic person out of your life.

You're doing great.

Fuck her off.

Just have positive people in your life.

Just cos you have a blood relation doesn't mean you have to put up with their crap, bullshit or undermining you.

I had that same experience in May. I'm over it. Life's too short.

And everyone pays tax on purchases