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to think I can get by without childcare in August because work is quiet?

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isitPeri1 · 24/07/2025 15:44

Every August, work slows down massively. It has always been this way. There is barely anything coming in, hardly any meetings or deadlines, and most of my team is off. My manager and her manager are both away for the whole of August, so it is very unlikely anything urgent will come up.

I have primary school-aged kids and I am thinking I might skip childcare this year. I usually only have about one to two hours of work a day in August, and some days there is literally nothing to do at all. Anything that does come up, I can usually fit around the kids early in the morning or after they have gone to bed. I have proper annual leave booked for September when they are back at school, so I will get a proper break then.

Has anyone else done this? Just managed without childcare when work was super quiet?

OP posts:
beautifuldaytosavelives · 25/07/2025 18:40

Why would you take leave when they are back at school and not when they are off? No, just on principle. You’re at work. Paid to work, not go to the park.

isitPeri1 · 25/07/2025 18:38

Hosepipedramas · 25/07/2025 18:24

If asked by work, would you be lying about it? If so, then it isn't worth it.

Thread has moved on. The manager said it is ok.

OP posts:
Hosepipedramas · 25/07/2025 18:24

If asked by work, would you be lying about it? If so, then it isn't worth it.

Ivelostmyglasses · 25/07/2025 15:16

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 15:06

But not everyone in the company will do the same thing. Some departments may well carry on as normal, others may be down to skeleton staff - others may even close completely. Not every single member of staff has to have the ability to do the same thing at the same time. Very few businesses work like that.

Wonder what the problem is then? Apparently the OP has been allowed to take their children out all day, her colleagues have different jobs so don't mind that they would have to book leave to do the same, the children are old enough to entertain themselves during an email or phone-call. What's the issue then? Clearly the boss does not know, it isn't typical practice, and we are all arguing amongst ourselves.😆

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 15:08

Newsenmum · 25/07/2025 14:52

This is why Id like to know what op does. She still hasnt told us. Pretty sure the boss wouldn’t actually be happy.

RTFT. The boss has said it's absolutely fine.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 15:06

Ivelostmyglasses · 25/07/2025 13:23

If everyone in the company was able to skeleton staff in the way the OP wants to they wouldn't be posting here. That is what people are querying. Is everyone else able to have days out through August so long as they have their phone? If so there would be no issue.

But not everyone in the company will do the same thing. Some departments may well carry on as normal, others may be down to skeleton staff - others may even close completely. Not every single member of staff has to have the ability to do the same thing at the same time. Very few businesses work like that.

FourIsNewSix · 25/07/2025 15:02

PropertyD · 25/07/2025 10:31

Herts has put it brilliantly. Nothing further to add.

Nothing further to add, other than - it is completely irrelevant.

  1. it isn't the OP's problem. It works like that now and she is in a position to use it. Not using it now wouldn't have much influence on the company's health in a few years and there is no guarantee that the OP will be still there no matter what she does now.

  2. actually, this might be close to optimal solution - majority is taking the annual leave, but someone still needs to be around.
    The one person who doesn't have any annual leave is actually happy with the setup.

  3. senior people should have experience with dealing with reality. Reality is never optimal and you can change only so many things in the same time.

Newsenmum · 25/07/2025 14:52

Trying81 · 24/07/2025 21:31

I’d be really disappointed if one of my team did this

I work in an industry where there are quieter months, and those are the times where we encourage catching up on training, reviewing documentation such as process maps, process notes and obviously annual leave. There’s never absolutely nothing to do, as whatever industry you’re in there’s always room to improve processes

To openly do that, then take time off when work picks back up is taking the piss - and no matter how much you think it’ll go unnoticed; it won’t

This is why Id like to know what op does. She still hasnt told us. Pretty sure the boss wouldn’t actually be happy.

Sheldonsheher · 25/07/2025 14:31

Being a child of the 70s we were not entertained all summer holidays either. Just out with friends etc or entertained yourselves.

You don’t have to have a month long constructed Disney land for whole of August. It’s not a shame for the kids it’s totally ok.

People Have lost the plot.

isitPeri1 · 25/07/2025 14:08

converseandjeans · 25/07/2025 14:03

This is quite sad for your kids - take a week or long weekend off & take them away!

They are away now with DH.

They will be taken out everyday during August.

OP posts:
converseandjeans · 25/07/2025 14:03

isitPeri1 · 24/07/2025 17:39

I will get more of a break when they are at school.

This is quite sad for your kids - take a week or long weekend off & take them away!

Dontjumptoconclusions · 25/07/2025 13:40

CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/07/2025 13:07

Don't you think it's quite a lazy attitude to deliberately plan to be at work when you know it's quiet because no-one's in to reply to you and you'll have an easy time of it? The European way seems sensible in lots of ways to me, it means that organisations can be more efficient; when people are all back at work together they can actually get stuff done as they are not sitting round having to wait for people to come back from leave to respond to their emails/have a meeting with them.

You've currently got work building up, projects not moving forwards, presumably, because of all your out of office replies to the emails that you've sent. So I assume some of your work is stuck until you've heard back from some of them. But you also say that when you will take leave in September your work will also build up then and it's just there to come back to. That's a lot of time with stuff just building up and not moving forwards, isnt' it? Hardly the best way for an organisation to work. No wonder the UK is less productive than many other European countries.

Yup! It's deliberately lazy. There's no way on earth I would give 100% to my employer who's investors live on yachts on Palm Beach.

I save on childcare, spend time with the kids and save my annual leave for when I have date days with DH or go out with friends. The Europeans also have quite a lot of holiday days,so it's not an apples to apples comparison - my colleagues in France get 6 weeks of leave. If that were me, then I'm sure I would take off some of Aug, but as such, I don't.

Correct, the work is building up.

My stance on that: If I have to wait for one month for the projects to move whilst everyone else swans off on holiday, they can wait for one week in Sept whilst I'm on my own break, at least it's not a month! (My manager actually said this the other day.)

Confabulations · 25/07/2025 13:38

Ivelostmyglasses · 25/07/2025 13:23

If everyone in the company was able to skeleton staff in the way the OP wants to they wouldn't be posting here. That is what people are querying. Is everyone else able to have days out through August so long as they have their phone? If so there would be no issue.

Not necessarily everyone in the company, but everyone in particular roles within the company, yes.
I can't answer for OP, but I do recall having similar dilemmas about the absolute necessity of keeping booking holiday clubs which cost me upwards of £50 a day to cover 8-6, for the 'just in case' I am needed moments when my kids were similar age.
I work for a company with a global presence, in a global role. My hours are fully flexible all year round, according to business need.
No one blinks at me taking time out during the day, because sometimes I am on calls well into the night or very early, depending on what geography I am working with. Or like last week, when I was on leave, but had to take my laptop with me so I could sign off on something for one of my team, which was meant to be done the week before, but didn't happen and the business was not going to accept it being delayed until this week.

tvand · 25/07/2025 13:33

If your employer has a policy about it, then no, I wouldn’t do it.

Hertsmum78 · 25/07/2025 13:31

@isitPeri1 Well if our understanding of your organisation is so misguided, you could help us out by telling us something about what it is and how it is run. But in the absence of that info, it is really hard not to draw the conclusion that a company/organisation that is paying not just one but several employees for a whole month to have outings with their kids... could improve its workflow and efficiencies.

bellamorgan · 25/07/2025 13:26

CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/07/2025 13:12

If that's the case when do you take your leave then?

When I want but most of our trips tend to be long weekends with only one actual week long trip, we just never have the whole team on actual holidays at the same time and I use the word team loosely we just do the same job but we don’t work together. I’ll have my assignments and they have theirs we don’t share or jointly do a job. If you cannot do the task the other person gets the whole task.

A family member has an even better job, they might only work 2 days a month but they are basically on call 24/7. If it needs fixing 2pm Christmas Day they are in. If nothings broken they are not needed just sat on a hefty retainer. They still get to go on leave as well just not Christmas Day or new years.

Ivelostmyglasses · 25/07/2025 13:23

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 13:14

Exactly - the total lack of thought and imagination is quite impressive 🫣

Newsflash: not all industries are the same and many practically shut down in the quieter months with just a few skeleton staff to answer emails. It’s very, very normal.

If everyone in the company was able to skeleton staff in the way the OP wants to they wouldn't be posting here. That is what people are querying. Is everyone else able to have days out through August so long as they have their phone? If so there would be no issue.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 13:14

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 12:54

Why not? The OP is clearly fine not to take any holiday in August so she’s the skeleton staff while everyone else enjoys their holidays.

When when everyone else returns in September she gets to take her holiday.

I don’t understand why so many people are finding this so hard to grasp.

Exactly - the total lack of thought and imagination is quite impressive 🫣

Newsflash: not all industries are the same and many practically shut down in the quieter months with just a few skeleton staff to answer emails. It’s very, very normal.

Ivelostmyglasses · 25/07/2025 13:13

isitPeri1 · 25/07/2025 12:50

That’s really not what’s happening. I’m not the only one working like this. August is quiet for everyone in our team, which is why so many people, including both my manager and their manager, take leave then. It’s not just me making it up as I go. This is how the whole department tends to work during this time of year.

I haven’t taken annual leave in August. I’m still working, just flexibly, because there’s not much coming in and what does come in is easy to manage around the kids. That’s been agreed with my manager, and it’s not affecting anyone else.

I booked my actual leave for September because I’ll get a proper break then, and the team will be back to normal. It’s not about getting out of anything or leaving others to pick up the slack. No one at work has a problem with it.

Why are you posting then? If your manager has agreed they are happy for you to take days out in August with your children so long as you take your phone, and that is what everyone else does, what is the issue? Your children are old enough to do an activity while you are on the phone.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/07/2025 13:12

bellamorgan · 25/07/2025 13:02

I’ve had zero work for 2 weeks already. The clients are not sending through work so there is no work to send to me.

Give it four weeks or so and I won’t have time to fart let alone anything else. I’ll be sat at 2am making sure the deadline is reached but until there is work I can’t get ahead and there is nothing to catch up on as once the jobs done it’s done.

If that's the case when do you take your leave then?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/07/2025 13:07

Dontjumptoconclusions · 25/07/2025 12:16

I can only speak for myself - I am in a similar position and work for a European company. It's well known that many European countries shut down in Aug. I've received 11 emails since Monday and most of the replies I get are OOOs.

I could take time off - but time off from what? The no work? Let's save the time off for when there's something to take a break from. I'm taking the third week of Sept off.

Importantly - when I take holiday doesn't impact anyone else, as I have set projects to do and no one else does the work except me. Swings and roundabouts, because for example, if I was off on holiday for 2 weeks, the work piles up and I still have to do it when I get back. So there's no impact on the team or delegating. It's just me.

I am also in charge of one specific department for my role - so I wouldn't know what to do for helping a busier department and I'm not trained for anything else. I'm also not paid for anything else(!)

OP isn't alone at all in what she does.

I also don't take time off during Christmas. 😅

Don't you think it's quite a lazy attitude to deliberately plan to be at work when you know it's quiet because no-one's in to reply to you and you'll have an easy time of it? The European way seems sensible in lots of ways to me, it means that organisations can be more efficient; when people are all back at work together they can actually get stuff done as they are not sitting round having to wait for people to come back from leave to respond to their emails/have a meeting with them.

You've currently got work building up, projects not moving forwards, presumably, because of all your out of office replies to the emails that you've sent. So I assume some of your work is stuck until you've heard back from some of them. But you also say that when you will take leave in September your work will also build up then and it's just there to come back to. That's a lot of time with stuff just building up and not moving forwards, isnt' it? Hardly the best way for an organisation to work. No wonder the UK is less productive than many other European countries.

isitPeri1 · 25/07/2025 13:02

LameBorzoi · 25/07/2025 12:58

Actually, often the bosses want August off, so want someone like OP around to just keep an eye on things.

Exactly.

They always take August off. I keep an eye on things if anything crops up. Usually it doesn't.

OP posts:
bellamorgan · 25/07/2025 13:02

PropertyD · 25/07/2025 11:56

I also cannot believe a job exists where there is literally NOTHING TO DO. No sorting out your emails, filing, preparing for a busier time, some networking with colleagues.

You are just literally sitting there waiting for the phone to ring and you claim that wont happen either very much.

OP - arent you concerned that you will be found out, that this will all come crashing down when it becomes clear to shareholders, tax payers or whomever is paying your salary that this sort of way of working cannot continue.

Or maybe you just dont care and neither does your managment

I’ve had zero work for 2 weeks already. The clients are not sending through work so there is no work to send to me.

Give it four weeks or so and I won’t have time to fart let alone anything else. I’ll be sat at 2am making sure the deadline is reached but until there is work I can’t get ahead and there is nothing to catch up on as once the jobs done it’s done.

LameBorzoi · 25/07/2025 12:58

CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/07/2025 12:44

You're contradicting yourself. You've already said that August is dead and there is no work to do, which is your justification for not needing childcare. But here you're saying "taking time off when there is less to do, and being fully available when it matters most, is a logical and agreed way of working." But you're not actually doing this because you're NOT taking your leave at the quiet time. You're choosing to take it in September. It sounds like your colleagues do it the logical way and make themselves available when it's busier, but that's not what you're doing. You want time off in September when it's busier. So your colleagues are taking up your slack then.

This will all be noticed by people. Let's face it, there are plenty of people we've all come across at work who technically aren't doing anything wrong (hence your line manager saying it's fine, because there's probably nothing in your contract to say otherwise, so what choice do they have but to say that to you), but whose actions when compared against others raises an eyebrow.

Actually, often the bosses want August off, so want someone like OP around to just keep an eye on things.

LameBorzoi · 25/07/2025 12:56

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 25/07/2025 12:39

Yep, it’s very predictable. Happens all the time on these threads!

Yep.

Many people don't understand being paid for quality, not quantity.

For projects delivered, not hours chained to the desk.

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