To think there are very few allies against Anti-Semitism?

Did the Allies commit genocide against Germany in WW2?

Why did Palestine carry out the atrocities of October 7th knowing that Israel possesses much more military strength and would certainly retaliate?

Why DOES Israel posses far more military strength when they are a country alone in that region of the world whereas Palestine is an Islamic state surrounded by other Islamic states?

When I first came to the UK 25 years ago, I noticed subtle antisemitism. I asked British Jews that I met how they felt about it. Everyone claimed there was no antisemitism, everything was fine. They didn’t recognise what I was picking up on.

I am not Jewish, but I grew up on the US East Coast where there was a significant Jewish minority. I grew up with Jewish friends and their families were kind, intelligent, warm and generous.

I feel sad to see that my antenna seemed to be right after all. October 7th seemed to give everyone permission to let out their ugliest feelings.

That has to be a joke. I promise you I will call any genocide a genocide regardless of the perpetrators. Ok?

Nobody is setting out to hurt anyone. It they truth can't be brushed under the carpet to spare people's feelings.

Why are Israel held to much higher moral standards than other countries at war - including Palestine?

Anyway, all of this is utterly irrelevant to the fact that Jewish people in the UK should not be experiencing antisemitism, or have their experience denied or derided when they do.

Amnesty says men are women, so...

UN says genocide. Medicine sans Frontiers says genocide. Amnesty says genocide. Even human rights grps IN Israel are saying genocide.

It was the casual use of " revengeful bloodlust" I was referring to.

It was also alleged at the time that Iran paid South Africa to bring the genocide case to the ICJ: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/was-south-africa-bribed-by-iran-to-bring-genocide-case-against-israel-sxtyq756

I can't say for certain how true or not that is, but given that Iran was plausibly behind 7 October as a way to derail the Abraham Accords, it's plausible.

Honestly, No one should use the word genocide ‘casually’ but not should they be afraid to say ‘genocide’ when that’s what’s happening. In full view of the world.

yes, I suppose committing genocide in a revengeful bloodlust will do that.

This is exactly the kind of phrasing I'm talking about. And you say it so casually.

Middle Eastern pundits actually get it, far more so than Westerners I think:
https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1949910158223822942

‘The other issue as I see it is that Israel is losing the PR war. ’

yes, I suppose committing genocide in a revengeful bloodlust will do that.

I'm sorry but Israeli people and those who support them aren't entitled to have their feelings protected in a way that no one else is.

It's not just Israelis that find the comparison hurtful. But I can't stop you if you wish to cause pain, I guess.

Of course not, because the Holocaust is relevant to Netanyahu.
If the Uyghur people started atrocities against another race/ethnicity in a similar scale, saying to them it is in some way similar to the Holocaust and the mass genocide of Jews would not have the same impact as if it was said to be similar to ethnic cleansing of Uyghur people, themselves.
People dehumanise other races and ethnic groups. They only recognise what has happened to themselves.

Not sure why you feel I am on dangerous ground when I haven’t said these are my views.
I have also been careful to say that this is about Netanyahu and his government. Not about Jewish people (Israeli citizens or otherwise). If would be antisemitic if criticised Jewish people as a whole for their actions government’s actions.

It’s not me making the comparison- I am suggesting why some may

I understand you didn't make the comparison and appreciate you explaining but imo it is never an acceptable or even understandable comparison.

I mean I've never heard anyone compare the Rwandan genocide to the Holocaust...or the conflict in Yemen or the genocide of the Uyghurs or the situation in Sudan.

I was going to say pretty much the same thing.
Absolutely lost for words anyway.

It is so easy to make that comparison without understanding the wider repercussions of doing so. I feel you are on dangerous ground.

It shows that there needs to be more widespread education about what anti-semitism is. I am appalled by what is happening to the Palestinian people in Gaza, but I am also appalled by anti-semitism.

I don't think anything enlightening is going to come from this thread so this is the point at which I make my exit.

It’s not me making the comparison- I am suggesting why some may.
I suspect things like it’s relative recency, the infamy, the scale, the displacement and that it affected Jews and now it’s an Israeli government that is inflicting horrors on a very specific group of people. This maybe where the comparison ends but it will have little impact on the supporters of Netanyahu to compare his current actions to that suffered by another group of non-Jewish people.

Genocide, forced starvation, shooting those waiting for aid are being portrayed in a negative light?

Is it possible to portray then in a positive light?

Many, many people across the world disagree with you. Myself included.

It's not dressing up for a fancy dress part. It is highlighting human suffering. That's the difference.

I'm sorry but Israeli people and those who support them aren't entitled to have their feelings protected in a way that no one else is.

When you look at what the Palestinians are suffering, its ridiculously entitled to be saying I don't feel comfortable with that. I'm sure that feeling uncomfortable with a comparison would be the least of the worries of the Palestinians people at the moment.

The Holocaust is the worst atrocity I can think of. However it has come to be misused to suggest that Israel can act in a morally repugnant way and be above reproach, because people who first settled there had often been victims of the Holocaust.

Many Israeli families would first have settled there in the aftermath of WW2 and the Holocaust and their suffering has rightly been recognised world wide since.

The link is therefore very relevant, that what their grandparents and great grandparents suffered is happening at their hands to others who also deserve intervention and recognition of their suffering. The link is what makes it poignant.

The fact that it makes others uncomfortable is irrelevant. We need hard truths pointing out at times.

Honestly if you think dressing up as concentration camp victim is an appropriate thing to do, there is literally no debating with you.

It's not very similar to the Nazis at all.