To think there are very few allies against Anti-Semitism?

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Change since then? No. The far more recent Baroness Casey review called out the Met Police for being institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic.

This is not presented as an excuse, as the lack of compassion to you and your family is terrible, but explanation that very little has really changed in Policing.

I hope you are doing OK as this thread is also a difficult read in places.

@Longingdreamer I could be wrong but from experience, I don't think the police will do much. When deciding if a suspect should be charged, police generally work with the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).The two tests which must be met for the CPS to authorise charges are whether there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction and if a prosecution is in the public interest. I hate to be pessimistic, but I suspect the police will deem a waste of time and resources to do an investigation, even if they have cctv footage etc. In general, it quite difficult gather evidence.

I think the term allies is a loaded and potentially provocative one, so it's not surprising the thread was derailed. I'm also not surprised that members of the public didn’t intervene as many people would be too scared. The police’s dismissive response is expected; they often focus only on cases with a realistic chance of prosecution. They’re also known to be institutionally racist, the Stephen Lawrence case shows how little this country has historically cared about racism, and I don’t believe things have improved much. I don’t think racism has increased, but racists now feel more comfortable expressing their views. The anti-immigration protests and race riots of 2024 reflect a broader trend of individuals feeling emboldened to voice their prejudice openly.

I recently watched a very vicious attack - a group of boys and young men chasing another group of boys. Unfortunately, one of the boys did not run quick enough and he was kicked in the head multiple times. It was evident he needed to be take to hospital, however the police treated like him like he was a criminal. The police had no real interest in what had happened other than if anyone filmed the incident. The police also ignored request from members of the public to call an ambulance.

I’m sorry to hear that you experienced this OP. Please know that there are many of us horrified by the rise in anti Semitism in this country. Many so called “progressives” don’t see it as a form of racism which is a stain on our society

there’s a lot of awful stuff shared online too - have seen some awful stuff on instagram. It’s been becoming so normalised I think a lot of people don’t register it at all.

i hope you have a good community around you to support you. Please report the second incident if you can - it’s important reports are received so there’s a true picture of what’s going on.

OMFG. What the hell is wrong with you? Incidentally, "we all" don't know anything of the sort because we all aren't thick as mince antisemites.

Well we know you're a racist if nothing else.

Nothing. I haven't questioned whether you thought it was a bad idea at all. I just found the mental image quite funny that's all.

Hence why, as I have reiterated many times, I gave my head a wobble when smiling at the young Hasidic Jewish couple . What more do you want me to say ?

I smile at people too but it's not occurred to me to smile at people to prove either that I'm not a racist or that I don't blame them for things that couldn't conceivably be their fault.

Such as?

I knew it was a rhetorical question but I just needed to point out your assumption.
In fact I smile at a lot of people. I smile at women with babies who are roaring their heads of or mothers at their whits end with their over tired toddler . I smile naive been there and I rightly or wrongly think I might put them a tiny bit at ease .

Why would that be ?

I'm sure you can recognise a rhetorical question. As you say I have no idea what colour you are. That doesn't detract from my point. Just replace black people with Chinese people or Sri Lankan people or Syrian people. Whatever you prefer.

Glad to hear the tube is becoming more inclusive; in my north London days a lot of orthodox Jews preferred to stay local.

"I am an Empath" is one phrase that strikes fear into my heart.
Unless its a line on Star Trek (JLP seasons)

Sorry , corrected to say “As you have no idea what colour I am “.

As i pointed out …. I gave my head a wobble as I realised I probably looked a bit tapped. I’m an empath and my first reaction was I want to make this young couple feel comfortable. That was it. No hidden agenda.
as you have no colour what colour I am it’s quite strange that you ask if I smile at black people .
Finally, I see Hasidic Jews on the tube frequently.

‘People seem to forget the atrocities caused by Hamas’
far from it. Atrocities committed by a terrorist group.
Israel in the other hand, not a terrorist group, a legitimate democracy, bombing, shooting, massacring and starving civilians to the point where even their supporters are starting to call it genocide and call for respite.
It would be better if a government didn’t behave in a way that made them seem worse than terrorists, wouldn’t it?

As much as they would disagree with it, I don't think that a lot of people would intervene in something public like that.

Out of fear for themselves. They would be afraid that they would be stabbed or something.

I remember reading about a woman in ireland. She witnessed homophobic abuse. She should up for the victim.

His attacker then turned on her, punched her and knocked her unconcious

I was responding to a previous message

Perhaps you're looking at it from a different perspective to that of the recipients of sickly, condescending smiles. I don't tell people I'm Jewish any more, partly because of that very reason. Like they're doing me a big favour by not shunning me. 🙄

I'd be surprised if the couple saw it like that. Most people tend to be appreciative of a smile.