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Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 10:21

Is it common for long standing childhood friendships to end in secondary school?
DS had an absolute best friend all through primary school, from reception to yr 6.
They were well known as being best friends and people used to say to me "They'll be friends for life those 2" because they were so close. My phone is filled with pictures of the 2 of them smiling and laughing together all through the ages from age 5 till 11.
Our families became good friends and we all spent days out together, meals at each others houses, birthdays together, met up in school hols, BBQs, camping trips, pub lunches, etc.
At the very end of yr 6 DS and BF hit problems and began to fall out. DS didn't like the way BF had suddenly started to behave towards him and towards other kids at school. BF suddenly - from around Easter of yr 6 onwards - developed lots of shouting, ordering around, setting extreme rules, name calling, mocking, put down comments, aggressive behaviour, controlling behaviour, paranoid thoughts, obsessive behaviour, threats, began telling a lot of lies about DS and then after all that he dumped DS to go and hang out with what he saw as the 'cool boys'. DS started pushing back at him at start of yr 7 and it led to a fall out, culminating in BF hitting DS.
BF's mum tried to repair their falling out and kept asking me if we (DS, me, her and her DS) would meet up for a sit down discussion about their friendship problems. But DS didn't want to do this and very clearly said to me that he had been treated really badly by BF for months by that point (turns out it had been going on for longer than I'd realised) and that he didn't want to sit down in a meeting and talk through friendship issues when his friend was treating him so badly that DS had started to develop anxiety in response to all the shouting and aggression and being lied about by said friend.
Me and DH completely agreed with him on this and became angry that the mum kept pushing for a meeting to talk about their friendship. I saw it as my duty to stand by DS's wishes and respect him not wanting to meet to discuss these problems. His BF's behaviour was already causing him anxiety and the thought of sitting down with him and his mother caused him even greater anxiety. I completely understood why he didn't want to have this meeting, and I didn't want to have a meeting either because by now I didn't want to repair their friendship, I wanted to keep DS away from his behaviour, not meet up to put him back in to a toxic situation.
When I declined to meet up, the friend's DM, by now a good friend of mine, kept pushing to meet up for a talk. The more I said No, the more she pushed. Ultimately that led to her getting cross with me and we stopped talking and our friendship came to a halt.
Then I found out she was talking about my DS to mutual friends and telling them things about him that aren't true (lies that her DS had told her). This made me livid. I never said a word about her DS's behaviour to any mutual friends as I considered it morally wrong to speak about another person's child's bad behaviour to mutual friends.
Anyway, we've now reached the end of year 8 and the 2 of them haven't spoken for the past 2 years. They're at the same secondary school together and are in the same classes for some subjects. And as adult friends we haven't spoken either.
I asked DS the other day how he's feeling about ex-BF now, and he simply said "I dont know him anymore. He's a completely different person to the one I was friends with through primary school. He really hurt me badly and that lasted for a long time, but I've moved on now and I'm getting on with my life".
When this friend first dumped him, DS was lost and very upset and went through quite a horrible time for the first few months of yr 7 because of it. His BF was going round school telling everyone he wanted DS to die, and everyone was reporting this to DS and it had a pretty bad impact on him.
But over the past 18 months, DS has made new friends at school and has strengthened previously existing friendships. He now has a variety of different friends, instead of 1 significant main best friend. These friends call for him, invite him out, make plans with him, he gets birthday party invites, goes for days out with them, has sleepovers with them, and they're all different friends so he hasn't got one particular set of friends.
Yet still, I can't help feeling sad about DS losing his BF like that, and in that way.
I'm sad that a friendship that DS loved so much through all of his younger childhood years ended so badly and no longer exists. They've got so many years of shared happy memories up until the age of 10/11. DS genuinely loved him up until his behaviour towards DS radically changed in second half of yr 6.
So.......what I'd like to know is, is it common or uncommon for long standing (as in years long) primary school best friend friendships to die a death at the start of secondary school?
I don't know anyone else in this situation.
I see so many children in DS's year group all hanging out happily together at the park, who are in yr 8 now and have been best friends since they started primary school or even nursery.
Feels like DS is the only one this has happened to which is what's making me sad for him.

OP posts:
scrivette · 24/07/2025 22:13

This is quite common - in fact when I started reading I did wonder if it was my DS ex BFF Mum writing!
I think that it more unusual to have friends from Primary School.
It is very positive that he has gone on to make other friends, although I do understand that it’s sad that memories of a primary school friendship are tainted by the following behaviour.

CandyCane457 · 24/07/2025 21:50

I think this is so, so, so normal, and you’re overreacting hugely. Your son is fine, he has a great group of new friends, why are you still fixating on a friend he lost touch with two years ago? It’s SO normal from that transition from primary to high school.
My primary school best friend moved away at the end of year 5 and I remember lots of tears the last time we spent time together, then off she went, I went round to her new house for tea once a few weeks later and then after that, never saw her again. And just…moved on with other friends. Then when leaving Primary at the end of year 6, one mum had a little bbq for about 8 of us, we all cried, hugged, said how sad we were that we were going on different schools. Then after that, barely saw each other and we just cracked on and made new friends in high school. I really can’t imagine my mum having such strong feelings about it!

Hoppinggreen · 24/07/2025 21:37

XelaM · 24/07/2025 16:05

I think the mother then wanted to meet up with the OP, but the OP refused to meet with her

BF's mum tried to repair their falling out and kept asking me if we (DS, me, her and her DS) would meet up for a sit down discussion about their friendship problems. But DS didn't want to do this

That was what OP wrote

Mylah · 24/07/2025 21:12

adviceneeded1990 · 24/07/2025 15:40

This is honestly why I think (as both a teacher and a parent) that parents should have the absolute minimum necessary involvement in children’s friendships! What a lot of drama over two small children who have simply outgrown a friendship. By all means organise the odd play date etc when the children are very small but beyond that there is zero need for this much emotional investment! Your DS will have many friendships that ebb and flow throughout his life. How on earth will you cope when his teenage first love girlfriend or boyfriend breaks his heart into pieces? Much less investment from all the adults involved here is what’s needed!

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I completely agree. It never ceases to amaze me how over involved and invested some parents are on here.

My mum was friends with some of the parents of my friends but that was always seperate from my frienships. In fact I had a big falling out with a close with a school friend about 10 years ago and haven't spoken since and our parents are still close friends and go on holiday together! My mum couldn't have told you anything about what went on in my friendships and we were all the better for it!

SilkCottonTree · 24/07/2025 20:55

Celeste123 · 24/07/2025 11:36

"I think the fact that clouds the situation here is that you became close as families so you are feeling the loss more than if that hadn't been the case."
Yes, this is true.
I had grown really close to this boy's mum over the years. My other child had grown very close to the boy's sibling. And both DHs were friends. So as a whole family we've lost a very close family friendship who we live 5 minutes away from and see around all of the time. Plus we have mutual friends who we all used to socialise with together, which has made things awkward.
I used to look after this boy and his siblings a lot over the years whilst his mum worked, and he spent years round at our house and coming out with us on days out.
Had it been a friend of DS's who I didn't really know very well, and whose family I didn't know, and who we didn't live within close proximity to and didn't have mutual friends, I'm sure I'd be much more c'est la vie about it.

But it was you who went scorched earth on the friendship with the parents, sounds like the mum really wanted to work things out and you flat out refused. There is no reason why you couldn't have met up with her one on one and both agreed to stay out of the boy's friendship while continuing your own.

Spinmerightroundbaby · 24/07/2025 20:40

Very normal but sometimes children can reconnect too. You never know, a couple of years down the line, DS’s BF might mature and change. One of my children lost touch with a child from primary school when they went to different secondary schools then reconnected a few years later and are very close again. I think some parents like the fantasy of best friends since childhood and it lasting forever but it’s the exception not the rule. Most people don’t remain best friends for life.

Pres11 · 24/07/2025 20:34

It’s been 2 years…..move on! What’s done is done.

angela1952 · 24/07/2025 20:23

My DS had a BF literally from birth all through primary school but it all fell apart at secondary. DS was fine, new friends, but exBF was not and had a really tough time. He was a clever boy, a bit nerdy, worked very hard and eventually became a medic. Their friendship was never going to last because they were so different, but I always felt bad that he’d had such a tough time at secondary school. We did try to talk to my son about it at the time but he wanted to have other friends.

Chinsupmeloves · 24/07/2025 19:54

Friendships change as you meet more people you're compatible with. I had good Friends but met my BFF at age 12, she was the ONE, so lucky to have found her.

There is still so much time for your son to find the one, or more than one.

Got to let them find their own, did your parents interfere with life's natural progression?

CharlotteFlax · 24/07/2025 19:52

It does feel like a dagger to the heart at the worst of the bad times, but your DS is through that and he's telling you and you can see that he's A-OK now!

Both my older kids went through friend changes at high school age experimenting with different groups, etc, it's just the natural way.

Rabbitrabbitrun · 24/07/2025 19:49

My DS fell out with his BF just before secondary school. They’d been really close and been on family holidays with each other. Life went on.

StrawberryCranberry · 24/07/2025 19:46

This happened to two of my three DC. DC1 was best friends with a boy all the way through primary, then their friendship cooled from year 7 (to be fair this was because they went to different secondary schools - otherwise they might have stayed close). DC2 was more like OP's son's experience - she and her BF fell out in year 6 after years of friendship, and I found out later that the BF had been really mean to DC2. They also went to different secondary schools, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have kept in touch anyway as DD really disliked her by that point.

Happyonfriday · 24/07/2025 19:26

Very common.
mine went through school/sports/social occasions with the same group (8 of them) and they went to high school and some remained together, others weren’t. Always remained friendly enough but not to the same extent… 4yrs later - every one of them are hanging out together again. they all had some growing up to do and ultimately other friendships have formed for them all yet they’re all now included.

kids friendships are fickle - I learnt that a long time ago.

the fact they’re still in the same classes tells me your son knows more about the person he now is and clearly not someone he could ever now envisage being in his life and that’s absolutely fine. You’re still allowed to grieve your friendship and his for that matter but just know it wasn’t meant to be!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/07/2025 19:21

It is sad, but very normal.
Your DS will find his crew too as they'll be others going through the same thing.
As long as there is no bullying, let it slid.

exaltedwombat · 24/07/2025 19:19

Perfectly reasonable for you to feel sad. But unreasonable to think it matters much how you feel!

PolyVagalNerve · 24/07/2025 18:28

experienced similar,
you will have his friends, maybe girlfriends ? Later on, that come into his and varying degrees your lives,
but you have to accept that things move on, and that’s OK
stop ruminating on what happened and what could of been ….. move on

Toooldtopretend · 24/07/2025 18:24

The girls that were my best friends in primary school were the same people that made my life absolute hell in secondary so yes, sadly I think it’s very common.

Vynalbob · 24/07/2025 18:21

Yes it's very common, even more so with boys and Y6 to Y7 is usually when it happens.
Primary schools tend to nurture friendships, secondary kids forge their own....a phrase I've heard recently 'find their people' , not sure how positive that is but it seems to ring true.

Furrylittlesweetpotatoes · 24/07/2025 18:11

Ahhh I actually feel your pain. I had a similar situation and it left me feeling awful, but I did work out my feelings were more about my friendships with the two mums involved, I felt let down and betrayed.

Once I’d done that I felt much better and proud of my son for showing such excellent boundaries (boundaries I’ve struggled with so kudos to him) and the ability to make new more rewarding friendships.

OnGoldenPond · 24/07/2025 17:52

This friendship with the ex BF turned toxic and your DS had the good sense and good sense of self esteem to walk away from it. Not a bad thing as these exclusive BF relationships can be very claustrophobic and limiting at the best of times.

Your DS has now built a healthy network of friendships with a wide circle and is enjoying a varied social life. A much healthier situation and your DS has told you he is much happier. You should be happy too. Nothing to mourn here. Your DS sounds very mature in his outlook, his approach will serve him well in life.

XelaM · 24/07/2025 16:05

Hoppinggreen · 24/07/2025 14:14

My reading was that the other Mum wanted to meet up with both boys to discuss and OP's DS didn't want to do that given how bullied he had been by this boy

I think the mother then wanted to meet up with the OP, but the OP refused to meet with her

XelaM · 24/07/2025 15:59

Malaco · 24/07/2025 15:56

Why would they want to repair a friendship with a boy who hit him and was shouting, ordering him around, setting extreme rules, name calling, mocking, put down comments, aggressive behaviour, controlling behaviour, paranoid thoughts, obsessive behaviour, threats, began telling a lot of lies, saying he wanted OP's son to die and the mum slagging him off too?

If the OP was close friends with the mother, I would have met up with her and told her about her son's behaviour. It's odd not to if the families were so close. But since the OP refused all attempts at a dialogue at the time, it's a bit too late to be upset over it now.

Malaco · 24/07/2025 15:56

XelaM · 24/07/2025 12:27

I think it's super weird that you refused point blank to even meet with the mother to have a chat over coffee. Had you done this, you could have probably fixed it.

Also super weird is the dramatic behaviour of the boy. Normally close friendships just drift apart rather than have so much drama - especially with boys. Has the boy ever explained or apologised for his behaviour? I guess you could have fixed this if you had met the mother but you refused, so no point crying over spilled milk now.

Why would they want to repair a friendship with a boy who hit him and was shouting, ordering him around, setting extreme rules, name calling, mocking, put down comments, aggressive behaviour, controlling behaviour, paranoid thoughts, obsessive behaviour, threats, began telling a lot of lies, saying he wanted OP's son to die and the mum slagging him off too?

Malaco · 24/07/2025 15:44

Thank goodness the friendship ended. What a bully!

adviceneeded1990 · 24/07/2025 15:40

This is honestly why I think (as both a teacher and a parent) that parents should have the absolute minimum necessary involvement in children’s friendships! What a lot of drama over two small children who have simply outgrown a friendship. By all means organise the odd play date etc when the children are very small but beyond that there is zero need for this much emotional investment! Your DS will have many friendships that ebb and flow throughout his life. How on earth will you cope when his teenage first love girlfriend or boyfriend breaks his heart into pieces? Much less investment from all the adults involved here is what’s needed!