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Dads partner leaving him homeless after her death.

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Tray80 · 24/07/2025 00:41

Appology in advance for the huge thread but mainly feel like I need to vent so here goes! My dad and his partner have been together for 26+ years, living together in her home for 22 years. Although I was close to my dad as a child, our relationship dwindled as I approached my adult years. I guess he just stopped making an effort once he met my stepmum, as they tended to spend most of their spare time with her kids and grandkids.

Even though they only live 20 mins drive away they never visited including when my babies were born. They put mine and my kids birthday/xmas cards in the post every year. We speak on the phone a couple of times a month( when I make the effort) and I call around to see them half a dozen times a year, always bearing gifts on special occasions for eg birthdays, fathers day, Xmas etc, so basically it's always me making the effort. It used to really hurt my feelings when I'd see how much effort they both made for my stepmums side of the family but after 20 years of seeing it I just learned to live with it.

For the past few years my stepmum has had a terrible run of health. My dad has retired to take care of her as she has been wheelchair bound for quite some time. Unfortunately she's now been diagnosed with cancer and has been told that there's a 50/50 chance that she may not make it through her operation next week. Needless to say the whole family is devastated, including my dad. I called to see them last week and while walking in the garden my dad broke down and told me that he doesn't know how he'll carry on living without his partner. I can tell its taken a huge toll on his health too as he's stopped eating and taking care of himself and even had a nasty fall, which is so unlike him.

Today I received a call from my stepmum. I was really shocked when her number came up on my phone as she's only rang me twice in 23 years. She told me that she wanted to talk to me while my dad was asleep. She said she wanted to lay down the ground rules of how things would play out for my dad if she was to pass away during her surgery next week. It was explained that as the house was legally hers, as it was in her name, she would be leaving it in trust to her 2 children and grandkids, meaning that if she was to pass away, then my dad would be homeless. Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous, which timed in with the fall and his sudden run of bad health. I believe this to be due to stress as he'd just been told that in 2 weeks he could possibly be loosing the love of his life, and now also his home. I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast. I could kind of understand the rush if my stepmums family were struggling financially but they're all very well off. I asked about my dad's financial situation, if he had a bit of a nest egg to get himself on his feet if the worse was to happen and she said that she doesn't know, as they've always kept their finances separate. She mentioned she didn't trust him to take care of the house after his fall. She added that she thinks that once she's gone my dad will probably just give up on life and not be far behind. She also pointed out that hes very lucky that hes been able to live mortgage free for 20 years.

I can't begin understand the stress she's under with the surgery loomimg and the possibility of not making it out. I really don't want to see her in a negative light as I know my dad loves her more than life itself and they both need kindness and support more than anything right now, but the conversation I had with her last night has left me with a bitter feeling. She asked me not to tell my dad that we'd had that conversation, which I will respect. I just don't understand why she'd told me at all, as it clearly wasn't out of concern for my dad but rather a concern that he wouldn't leave the house when shes gone. I feel maybe she was prepping me as she knows he'll be landing on my door step when her kids sell the house, which in turn seems like a smack in the face when neither of them have ever made any effort with me or the kids. I just keep looking at my husband and trying to put myself in her situation. Could I purposely leave my husband financially destitute? I couldn't! The other part that is bugging me is that if all goes well for her then she'll be at home being cared for once more by my dad, the same man she was turfing out on the streets if the worse was to happen. I feel as though hes just being used. I really hate feeling this bitterness about the situation and I know I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all so hoping that someone else's take may help me see it all in a different light. Am I being unreasonable in feeling like this? If you made it to the end then thanks for sticking with me!🤷‍♀️🤯

OP posts:
Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 19:40

Elektra1 · 24/07/2025 19:29

@Digdongdoowhat a horrible post. Nothing the OP has said suggests that. She just doesn’t want him being turfed out pronto and expecting to live with her.

I disagree. But ok.

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 19:39

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 19:27

I think you are wrong…

Ok. I think you are wrong.

BruFord · 24/07/2025 19:30

.I suppose I have some sympathy for him as I’m in the age group when parents are needing more support and one of my friends has been organizing carers for her Mum, who became wheelchair bound three years ago.

Unless you’ve cared for someone in this position (I haven’t), I don’t think you fully realize what a huge bonus having a live-in partner is for both the patient and the adult children. Despite having carers coming in twice a day to get her Mum up and to bed, my friend or her sister have also been visiting every day to provide support. My friend was close to a breakdown last year juggling her own home/job/family, and supporting her Mum.

Yes, he may be a cocklodger, but if he’s been caring for her for even a couple of years, his support has “repaid” a lot of unpaid rent IMO in terms of reducing their stress.

My widowed Dad might need this level of support in the near future and I’m dreading it.

Elektra1 · 24/07/2025 19:29

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:40

I suspect OP was actually hoping her dad would get the house, and it would find it's way to her eventually. "Step mum" was making clear this wouldn't be happening...

@Digdongdoowhat a horrible post. Nothing the OP has said suggests that. She just doesn’t want him being turfed out pronto and expecting to live with her.

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 19:27

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:40

I suspect OP was actually hoping her dad would get the house, and it would find it's way to her eventually. "Step mum" was making clear this wouldn't be happening...

I think you are wrong…

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 19:25

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 19:22

It was unfair of OP's step-mother to contact OP and tell her that she was making her dad homeless. She has basically passed on the responsibility for her dad to OP, despite him favouring the step-mother and her children above his own child for over 20 years.

Unfortunately, OP sounds too nice to tell both her dad and her step-mother that this isn't her problem.

I don't see it as passing on responsibility in the slightest. More warning OP that her useless dad will be heading her way next.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 19:22

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 17:57

How do you she doesn't care for his welfare? Perhaps she's been flogging this horse, asking him to sort himself out with all the money he hasn't been spending on housing for 20 years. She's not turfed him out with no warning. She's even let his DD know the situation so she isn't blindsided either. That doesn't sound like she doesn't care to me. Women do not need to show caring by handing over everything we had before we met a penniless man.

It was unfair of OP's step-mother to contact OP and tell her that she was making her dad homeless. She has basically passed on the responsibility for her dad to OP, despite him favouring the step-mother and her children above his own child for over 20 years.

Unfortunately, OP sounds too nice to tell both her dad and her step-mother that this isn't her problem.

Pleasealexa · 24/07/2025 19:20

How old is your dad? Does he get a state pension?

I think you need to discuss with your dad at least to signal your house won't be an option. Does he have any other family, such as siblings?

StormyPotatoes · 24/07/2025 18:46

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:38

Are you unable to actually read the OP?
it was you that brought sex into it and complained that women can't win. Check your own post.

OP said, in the opening post:

I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast

So he didn’t expect to stay there indefinitely on the case of her death. This was not new news to him. I think it’s probably come up again and again and he’s just buried his head in the sand.

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:41

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:38

Are you unable to actually read the OP?
it was you that brought sex into it and complained that women can't win. Check your own post.

Yes thanks I can read. OP did not say at any point that it was the first her dad had heard of it. Please quote if I have in fact misread.
And yes, I brought sex into it, so of course I think it's relevant.

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:40

NorthXNorthWest · 24/07/2025 18:38

He is probably hoping to live there for as long as possible rent free. She probably knows this and so do her children.

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I suspect OP was actually hoping her dad would get the house, and it would find it's way to her eventually. "Step mum" was making clear this wouldn't be happening...

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:38

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:36

She said she explained it a few weeks ago, theres absolutely no reason to assume it was for the first time ever. Why would you think a full grown man had no previous awareness of his and his partners financial arrangements? Why on earth would you assume this is the first he'd ever heard or thought about it?
Sex is not irrelevant. It never is.

Edited

Are you unable to actually read the OP?
it was you that brought sex into it and complained that women can't win. Check your own post.

NorthXNorthWest · 24/07/2025 18:38

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:36

She said she explained it a few weeks ago, theres absolutely no reason to assume it was for the first time ever. Why would you think a full grown man had no previous awareness of his and his partners financial arrangements? Why on earth would you assume this is the first he'd ever heard or thought about it?
Sex is not irrelevant. It never is.

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He is probably hoping to live there for as long as possible rent free. She probably knows this and so do her children.

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 18:36

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:30

Oh you highly doubt that he was unaware even though the OP details what was said during the conversation 'Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous'. She goes on to say that this news coincided with his fall and deterioration in his health.
This has absolutely nothing to do with women vs men. Why are you trying to make it so? I would say exactly the same in a situation where a female long term partner of a man, who had cared for him and supported him for decades was being turfed out. Would you suddenly support the woman, just because she was a woman? I would say the opposite in a case where a partner of either sex was clearly taking advantage of the other. The sex if irrelevant.

She said she explained it a few weeks ago, theres absolutely no reason to assume it was for the first time ever. Why would you think a full grown man had no previous awareness of his and his partners financial arrangements? Why on earth would you assume this is the first he'd ever heard or thought about it?
Sex is not irrelevant. It never is.

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:35

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 17:48

It’s not about protection of assets, most would agree with that, it’s about the callous, hard hearted way the partner has treated the father, with no regard for his welfare, after all he has done for her, only to be discarded when he’s fulfilled his purpose.

Exactly. All of us agree that protecting your assets for your biological children is sensible. Treating your partner of 26 years in such a cold hearted way, taking everything from him and not even having the decency to mention your plan to turf him or her out on your death and then trying to dump all the responsibility on his daughter, who neither of you have bothered with for years is horrible.

NorthXNorthWest · 24/07/2025 18:34

BruFord · 24/07/2025 17:15

@NorthXNorthWest I think most people (not all) agree with her decision to leave her house to her children.

It’s this weird phone call to the OP and the fact that it sounds as if he may have to leave ASAP that seem callous.

Re. Chucking him out. It sounds as if he’s been useful to her. Yes, he’s a financial cocklodger but having a live-in carer since her health deteriorated has presumably been useful and cost-effective to her and her children. In this case, I don’t think she’s been too scared and miserable to ask him to leave!

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We don't know everything.

Maybe his partner didn't want him to give up work but he did it anyway.

Maybe he was always supposed to have a back up plan for if he out lived her but he has buried his head in the sand and continues to be so.

Maybe the call to the daughter was because the partner is worried that he still has not prepared any backup plans and she is worried about what will happen to him if she dies.
I find it hard to believe that he did not know that house would go to her children.

Given how he treated his own children its no surprise that she would want to ring fence her assets and ensure they passed to her children as swiftly as possible.

Maybe there is a reason why she never married him.

rainingsnoring · 24/07/2025 18:30

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 17:39

I highly doubt he was unaware of her plans before now. op only says step mum spoke to him a few weeks ago, not that it was for the first time ever. And more fool him if he gets to retirement age with nothing in his his without even discussing it with his partner.
Women can't win. If we don't protect our assets, we are fools. If we don't give everything to men, we are heartless.

Oh you highly doubt that he was unaware even though the OP details what was said during the conversation 'Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous'. She goes on to say that this news coincided with his fall and deterioration in his health.
This has absolutely nothing to do with women vs men. Why are you trying to make it so? I would say exactly the same in a situation where a female long term partner of a man, who had cared for him and supported him for decades was being turfed out. Would you suddenly support the woman, just because she was a woman? I would say the opposite in a case where a partner of either sex was clearly taking advantage of the other. The sex if irrelevant.

YourJoyousDenimExpert · 24/07/2025 18:22

Even if stepmum does not survive her op, her children will have to wait for probate before they can sell the house which will give a bit of time. Presumably your Dad has a good relationship with his step children and they will not hound him out immediately?
I do feel she is being incredibly heartless though and I would struggle to feel positively about her going forwards.

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 17:57

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 17:48

It’s not about protection of assets, most would agree with that, it’s about the callous, hard hearted way the partner has treated the father, with no regard for his welfare, after all he has done for her, only to be discarded when he’s fulfilled his purpose.

How do you she doesn't care for his welfare? Perhaps she's been flogging this horse, asking him to sort himself out with all the money he hasn't been spending on housing for 20 years. She's not turfed him out with no warning. She's even let his DD know the situation so she isn't blindsided either. That doesn't sound like she doesn't care to me. Women do not need to show caring by handing over everything we had before we met a penniless man.

TorroFerney · 24/07/2025 17:56

Izz81 · 24/07/2025 05:54

This message is as cold as OPs step mother. There could be many reasons why hes been like it, my dad is a huge introvert and struggles with relationships, thats not his fault but if i dont make the effort he wont….does that mean I cut him off and leave him to the wolves if he was with someone doing this? People are so cold, generally its people with the most money and asset wealth that are the coldest. In the end, where does it actually get a person to be like this?

where does it get you not being a mug do you mean? It gets you not seething with resentment about a dad who has done sweet FA as a parent and now may (and it is only may) expect op who is basically a stranger to him , to sort his mess out.

What has being an introvert got to do with contacting your child? i think your dad is having you on.

Gettingbysomehow · 24/07/2025 17:56

vivainsomnia · 24/07/2025 15:55

He did help towards the bills. He sacrificed his own money to care for her, and the house, so he has contributed . His partner is a hard hearted bitch
Well of course he contributed to the bills, for things he used. Or do you think she should have paid his use of gas, electricity, Internet, and even all the council tax and him to pay absolutely nothing at all? Why?

We don't know that he gave up his job to look after her, just that this is recent. We don't know how old he is. Again, he could freely have said to her that he couldn't stop working as he couldn't afford it. He chose not to.

So what if he paid his share of bills. He would have had to pay them AND his rent if he had his own place.
At least this woman is putting her kids first. Not like him.

Jumpthewaves · 24/07/2025 17:52

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 17:48

It’s not about protection of assets, most would agree with that, it’s about the callous, hard hearted way the partner has treated the father, with no regard for his welfare, after all he has done for her, only to be discarded when he’s fulfilled his purpose.

The stepmother is perfectly reasonable to leave the house she paid for to her children. He's lived there rent free nd so could have put the money he saved aside. There has to be an option for people who don't want to be financially tied to each other and this is it. If they'd wanted to share they would have got married etc. She is doing the best thing for her children.

Allseeingallknowing · 24/07/2025 17:48

Digdongdoo · 24/07/2025 17:39

I highly doubt he was unaware of her plans before now. op only says step mum spoke to him a few weeks ago, not that it was for the first time ever. And more fool him if he gets to retirement age with nothing in his his without even discussing it with his partner.
Women can't win. If we don't protect our assets, we are fools. If we don't give everything to men, we are heartless.

It’s not about protection of assets, most would agree with that, it’s about the callous, hard hearted way the partner has treated the father, with no regard for his welfare, after all he has done for her, only to be discarded when he’s fulfilled his purpose.

Gettingbysomehow · 24/07/2025 17:48

Meh. He's cocklodged for decades abandoning his own kids to do so. Who abandons their own children? Now he's looking for another woman to look after him and will no doubt have a massive sob story to give to the next mug about what a vile witch his partner was.
No sympathy here.

BUMCHEESE · 24/07/2025 17:47

It's possible to write into a will that a partner could stay in the house for eg 2 years to give him time to get back on his feet.

I would urge him to go back to work tbh.

But you don't owe him anything and there's absolutely no way he'd be moving in with me if I were you. You reap what you sow.