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Dads partner leaving him homeless after her death.

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Tray80 · 24/07/2025 00:41

Appology in advance for the huge thread but mainly feel like I need to vent so here goes! My dad and his partner have been together for 26+ years, living together in her home for 22 years. Although I was close to my dad as a child, our relationship dwindled as I approached my adult years. I guess he just stopped making an effort once he met my stepmum, as they tended to spend most of their spare time with her kids and grandkids.

Even though they only live 20 mins drive away they never visited including when my babies were born. They put mine and my kids birthday/xmas cards in the post every year. We speak on the phone a couple of times a month( when I make the effort) and I call around to see them half a dozen times a year, always bearing gifts on special occasions for eg birthdays, fathers day, Xmas etc, so basically it's always me making the effort. It used to really hurt my feelings when I'd see how much effort they both made for my stepmums side of the family but after 20 years of seeing it I just learned to live with it.

For the past few years my stepmum has had a terrible run of health. My dad has retired to take care of her as she has been wheelchair bound for quite some time. Unfortunately she's now been diagnosed with cancer and has been told that there's a 50/50 chance that she may not make it through her operation next week. Needless to say the whole family is devastated, including my dad. I called to see them last week and while walking in the garden my dad broke down and told me that he doesn't know how he'll carry on living without his partner. I can tell its taken a huge toll on his health too as he's stopped eating and taking care of himself and even had a nasty fall, which is so unlike him.

Today I received a call from my stepmum. I was really shocked when her number came up on my phone as she's only rang me twice in 23 years. She told me that she wanted to talk to me while my dad was asleep. She said she wanted to lay down the ground rules of how things would play out for my dad if she was to pass away during her surgery next week. It was explained that as the house was legally hers, as it was in her name, she would be leaving it in trust to her 2 children and grandkids, meaning that if she was to pass away, then my dad would be homeless. Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous, which timed in with the fall and his sudden run of bad health. I believe this to be due to stress as he'd just been told that in 2 weeks he could possibly be loosing the love of his life, and now also his home. I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast. I could kind of understand the rush if my stepmums family were struggling financially but they're all very well off. I asked about my dad's financial situation, if he had a bit of a nest egg to get himself on his feet if the worse was to happen and she said that she doesn't know, as they've always kept their finances separate. She mentioned she didn't trust him to take care of the house after his fall. She added that she thinks that once she's gone my dad will probably just give up on life and not be far behind. She also pointed out that hes very lucky that hes been able to live mortgage free for 20 years.

I can't begin understand the stress she's under with the surgery loomimg and the possibility of not making it out. I really don't want to see her in a negative light as I know my dad loves her more than life itself and they both need kindness and support more than anything right now, but the conversation I had with her last night has left me with a bitter feeling. She asked me not to tell my dad that we'd had that conversation, which I will respect. I just don't understand why she'd told me at all, as it clearly wasn't out of concern for my dad but rather a concern that he wouldn't leave the house when shes gone. I feel maybe she was prepping me as she knows he'll be landing on my door step when her kids sell the house, which in turn seems like a smack in the face when neither of them have ever made any effort with me or the kids. I just keep looking at my husband and trying to put myself in her situation. Could I purposely leave my husband financially destitute? I couldn't! The other part that is bugging me is that if all goes well for her then she'll be at home being cared for once more by my dad, the same man she was turfing out on the streets if the worse was to happen. I feel as though hes just being used. I really hate feeling this bitterness about the situation and I know I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all so hoping that someone else's take may help me see it all in a different light. Am I being unreasonable in feeling like this? If you made it to the end then thanks for sticking with me!🤷‍♀️🤯

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Mullingar · 26/07/2025 23:43

ohnotthisagain2025 · 26/07/2025 23:39

Er no, just homeless.

If their relationship fizzled out / ended - would you see him as homeless as he needed to move out of the DSM's home? Is this not what most adults do without the drama?

ohnotthisagain2025 · 26/07/2025 23:43

Anyway, it seems clear that the OP is long gone.

Once again, the girlfriend does not love him and plans to make him homeless. We dont know if he deserves that or if she is sly, selfish and devious. If she survives her illness and allows him to keep caring for her, I guess that will be the answer - but we'll never know.

And if she does die, I think the OP will have her father moved in with her within the week. Shrug. Good luck to her.

ohnotthisagain2025 · 26/07/2025 23:39

hhtddbkoygv · 26/07/2025 18:25

That would be homeless by choice.

Er no, just homeless.

ohnotthisagain2025 · 26/07/2025 23:37

Tray80 · 24/07/2025 02:12

That's very kind of you to say! Thank you so much. Despite most of the negative replies I will carry on caring and hope for the best🙏

If by carry on caring you mean you are planning to be a doormat for a deadbeat dad to use you as lodgings - well ok then, you do you, I wouldn't allow him to use me like that, but people show caring in different ways, obviously that's your choice.

But as you say, you do actually care about your dad, and so naturally you would not take the easy way out by allowing his partner to talk about him behind his back. I know that's what she slyly wanted, but of course that is not what's best for him, and she had no right to demand that you keep her secrets.

And you also don't know, unless you tell him her plans, what he knows.

So as you do care what happens to him - what did he say when you told him she called you for the 2nd time in 23 years to make it clear he would be homeless when she dies?

EastGrinstead · 26/07/2025 23:02

Barrenfieldoffucks · 26/07/2025 07:16

Carer covers so much. It often covers people who don't want to work, but want to kick around at home claiming the benefits they're allowed at that point to make life easier for them.

We don't know which type he is...I suspect the latter given his general propensity for irresponsibility and low work ethic.

@Barrenfieldoffucks, if this is how you view carers, then you chose your username well.

TheignT · 26/07/2025 22:12

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 21:53

you are being ridiculous. The OPs children are likely to be expecting to receive an inheritance when their mother dies. I suspect that they will gladly take all the time they can with their mother whether it is 2 week or 20 years. It is not the same as waiting for their mother partner to die so they can inherit what they are entitled to.

But they can't be expected to wait, to give the man who has been in their lives for over 20 years who they have been happy to leave him as their mother's carer, a decent amount of time before he's thrown out in the street.

If their mother lives they might wait years for their inheritance so it won't hurt them to wait a while if she dies.

Who said they'd have to wait till he dies? He can be given a specified time to grieve and sort his life out or they can all go the legal route, spend money and he's likely to be there for life. I hope he fights it and they can live with the consequences if they can't be decent about it.

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 21:53

TheignT · 26/07/2025 21:45

So what do you think she'll do if the OP is successful and her life expectancy is 20 years? I mean should she not have the op so they can inherit or maybe make herself homeless because it isn't fair if she keeps them waiting is it.

you are being ridiculous. The OPs children are likely to be expecting to receive an inheritance when their mother dies. I suspect that they will gladly take all the time they can with their mother whether it is 2 week or 20 years. It is not the same as waiting for their mother partner to die so they can inherit what they are entitled to.

TheignT · 26/07/2025 21:45

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 13:21

Apart from the fact that OP states the mans partner has paid work done to the house an that she is concerned he wont stay on top of house maintenance.

The partner clearly doesn't want her children to have to wait 10-20 years to receive the house. Given the renters bill, its unlikely she or the the children will want to become landlords.

So what do you think she'll do if the OP is successful and her life expectancy is 20 years? I mean should she not have the op so they can inherit or maybe make herself homeless because it isn't fair if she keeps them waiting is it.

PopeJoan2 · 26/07/2025 20:24

It is very unlikely that a man who neglected his own daughter for most of her life suddenly became so unselfish as to become a loving carer to his partner. As everyone else on here is conjecturing, my guess is that a man like that does “good deeds” if they think there is something in it for them. Karma is a b*tch.

hhtddbkoygv · 26/07/2025 18:25

ohnotthisagain2025 · 24/07/2025 06:31

I don't care how fixated you are on this, but I can't say it any clearer.

The OP has said he will be homeless, so that's that.

Oh and your attempts to pretend anyone said "immediately homeless" aren't relevant. Homeless is homeless, whether it's 2 days, 2 weeks or two months. And, of course, you haven't the tiniest idea of what will actually happen, they could turf him out immediately.

So yep, you're wrong. He'll be homeless.

Edited

That would be homeless by choice.

Allisnotlost1 · 26/07/2025 17:44

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 16:35

He should have claimed carer’s allowance, he was entitled to!

I think that would depend on what benefits his wife claimed. Possibly she was not eligible for benefits.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 16:35

Allisnotlost1 · 26/07/2025 16:22

There will always be a handful of people who game the system but you can’t seriously think there are many claiming carers allowance for no reason. For one thing it’s a benefit that depends on the person being cared for receiving specified disability benefits.

He should have claimed carer’s allowance, he was entitled to!

Allisnotlost1 · 26/07/2025 16:22

Barrenfieldoffucks · 26/07/2025 07:16

Carer covers so much. It often covers people who don't want to work, but want to kick around at home claiming the benefits they're allowed at that point to make life easier for them.

We don't know which type he is...I suspect the latter given his general propensity for irresponsibility and low work ethic.

There will always be a handful of people who game the system but you can’t seriously think there are many claiming carers allowance for no reason. For one thing it’s a benefit that depends on the person being cared for receiving specified disability benefits.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/07/2025 13:31

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 11:16

OP said he paid for “bills, holidays etc”.

But not rent /mortgage which is usually the biggie cost

NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 13:21

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 12:12

The point is the father is not after inheriting the assets. It’s about being acknowledged for his contribution , and a bit of consideration to his position when the partner dies.
He's cared for her, maintained the house- this would have cost the partner a lot of money if she’d had to employ carers and handymen. Whilst I don’t condone how the father has treated his own family, it can’t be denied that the partner is callous, hard hearted and doesn’t appear to care a jot about how he will manage when she dies.

Apart from the fact that OP states the mans partner has paid work done to the house an that she is concerned he wont stay on top of house maintenance.

The partner clearly doesn't want her children to have to wait 10-20 years to receive the house. Given the renters bill, its unlikely she or the the children will want to become landlords.

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 13:09

I wouldnt worry about him - he has always stepped up for himself and landed on his feet. He will be fine.

Snoken · 26/07/2025 13:03

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/07/2025 12:54

I think you should go over and have an open conversation with both of them. Tell them that if the worst was to happen and she did die, that you are not in a position to house your father as you don’t have the room, so she will be making him homeless. Tell her the excuses about not keeping up the property are false as clearly he keeps up the property now as well as caring for her. Is a slap in the face for him for sure but housing him is not your responsibility, especially after 20+ years of being ignored.
What are the expectations that your father has about timing etc and what has she discussed with her children.? Has he contacted social services?

You want OP to go and talk to a woman who has put a roof over her dad's head for decades and who is now in a wheelchair and possibly have days to live, that she is lying about her dad not being able to look after the house (he probably can't afford to run it anyway) and that she is making her dad homeless? The dad is neither of the women's problem. He has neglected his relationship with OP for decades and he has stuck his head firmly in the sand when it comes to securing his own future in old age. He has made sure that he will be homeless, his partner has always made sure that he wasn't contributing to housing costs or maintenance.

ButterCrackers · 26/07/2025 12:56

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/07/2025 12:54

I think you should go over and have an open conversation with both of them. Tell them that if the worst was to happen and she did die, that you are not in a position to house your father as you don’t have the room, so she will be making him homeless. Tell her the excuses about not keeping up the property are false as clearly he keeps up the property now as well as caring for her. Is a slap in the face for him for sure but housing him is not your responsibility, especially after 20+ years of being ignored.
What are the expectations that your father has about timing etc and what has she discussed with her children.? Has he contacted social services?

He is not her responsibility.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 26/07/2025 12:54

Tray80 · 24/07/2025 02:12

That's very kind of you to say! Thank you so much. Despite most of the negative replies I will carry on caring and hope for the best🙏

I think you should go over and have an open conversation with both of them. Tell them that if the worst was to happen and she did die, that you are not in a position to house your father as you don’t have the room, so she will be making him homeless. Tell her the excuses about not keeping up the property are false as clearly he keeps up the property now as well as caring for her. Is a slap in the face for him for sure but housing him is not your responsibility, especially after 20+ years of being ignored.
What are the expectations that your father has about timing etc and what has she discussed with her children.? Has he contacted social services?

ButterCrackers · 26/07/2025 12:38

It would be interesting to know if this dp has made a will himself? What does he intend to leave his dp? If he dies before his dp I wonder if her and her kids would make a claim on his estate if there’s nothing in the will for them?

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 12:35

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 12:29

Read the posts. He contributed and is now her carer.

Contributing unspecified amounts towards unspecified things, and provides some unknown level of care....

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 12:35

TheignT · 25/07/2025 18:26

Just what you need when the love of your life dies, pack your bags and get out. Are people all really that heartless?

Lots of people have to do this - even those married with young children - main reasons for selling houses are 'The 4 Ds' Death, Debt, Divorce, Downsizing - he (we all) could well be doing all of that at any time.

Why does a single man require a family size house for the next 20 years? Maybe her own children need deposits to get on the housing ladder themselves with their young families.

Why hasnt he got a stack of cash squirreled away having had minimal expenses for his whole life - as I said earlier his financial situation is equivalent to my young adults living at home post uni - contributions to bills, going on holiday in their first minumum wage jobs - but this is temporary and they are saving (significantly) towards a deposit. He has sat back in this situation for over a quarter of a century. Its funny how men like him are such a cliche - abandon one family financially and emotionally - latch on (ponce off) to another who are already set up financially and emotionally.....and expect to be rewarded for it. I have also seen the flip to 'carer' role in men whos careers are ending and they can claim benefits.

If this guy has a responsible bone in his body - he will surprise everyone (including his partner and DD) with his savings and investments - if he has none then we can only assume he pissed it up the wall indulging himself - and to then expect to be rewarded for this lifestyle by being awarded someone elses family home for the rest of his life is ludicrous. He will be fine - he will get an over 55 flat easily and has state and private pension just for himself with much less outgoings that if he was in the family house. Might well have a nice portfolio of stocks and shares to cash in to 'ease the pain'. I hope the DSM isnt stressed that this cocklodger is going to try to shaft her DCs and DGCs and her own wishes after her whole lifetime of providing and protecting an asset for them.

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 12:29

CaptainFuture · 26/07/2025 12:23

Move in with someone, pay no rent or contributions... become dependent on them= get a house and/or money?

Read the posts. He contributed and is now her carer.

CaptainFuture · 26/07/2025 12:23

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:20

Such as what?

Move in with someone, pay no rent or contributions... become dependent on them= get a house and/or money?

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 12:20

Mullingar · 26/07/2025 12:16

These were my thoughts. This man has always made decisions that benefited his irresponsible and selfish approach to life.

Such as what?

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