How much to lose your legs??

It’s absolutely foul and disturbing

Oh he was part of this group - that is grim stuff.

I’m guessing the press can only report so much before it goes to trial. I’m willing to bet he was some kind of amputation fetishist. The whole thing of paying to watch videos of it seems like that. I think all the sympathy, awards and money was a nice bonus.

That's quite the own goal.

I doubt he removed them himself! Amputating a limb is a difficult procedure which at the very least would require a spinal block, then there’s the ligation of arteries, sawing through bone all of which even with expert knowledge would be hard to perform on yourself! I suspect it will come out he’s part of a dark web cult and no doubt there will be other names from the medical profession come out!

Every time I think I have forgotten about this group of freaks, another strand of the story appears in the press.

The sentencing remarks of Marius Gustavsin et al are grim reading

www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-marius-gustavson-and-others/

No amount of money.

That's what I thought

For him, the money isn’t the driver.

Its all about the attention (didn’t he win an award for being so brave and is constantly fundraising etc) and he obviously has some sort of fetish too.

My DH has a theory that in France there is a lot of pinky finger amputee fraud 😂 this is because he claims he sees many men with only four fingers. I would not be surprised if you can have some sort of insurance payout for life for it tbh so maybe it’s a thing!!!

back to the whole legs - no amount of money for me. Also how grim- how can you have a fetish about this honestly. People are mentally unwell!!!

I worked for many years dealing with personal injury claims. Me and my colleagues were very firmly of the view that the compensation was never worth it for practically any injury. Money is the only thing on offer obvs and that doesn't buy you physical or mental health

Where have you found a link between this and the trans community?

I’ve read several articles which suggest he injured his legs to induce the sepsis. Mind blowing.

The hospital trust are saying he's not done anything unprofessional toward patients...

I think he's become obsessed with being an amputee, given himself sepsis perhaps...

I am confused about the grievous bodily harm and the encouraging someone to harm others - is that getting someone to lop off his legs, or encouraging someone to lop off someone elses body parts entirely?

I doubt the money was the driving factor though - the mental illness that leads him to think he should be an amputee is the major factor.

As for legs - you can have mine, they're mostly in the way and generally useless and without them id be under the weight limit for a stair lift which would be significantly more reliable than the existing legs. I'll do you them for a few million.

But I am already a wheelchair user, and they are causing me issues. I guess its a very different story if you have fully function legs and like running about!

It has nothing to do with being trans. People with BIID are not trans.

I lost a leg to cancer last year. At the hip so a prosthesis is much more difficult to fit/use.
I’d like mine back given the choice, but I know of people like him from my research, they have a mental health condition called BIID. He Can’t help it anymore than any other mental health issue.

This is so grusomely interesting. I hope we hear more about this as it progresses.

Given that one of the charges against him is for encouraging the Eunuch Maker to carry out amputations, yes.

It is the body dysmorphia crowd and the Eunuch/null subset of the trans world. It is a pretty sick world and this creepy fraud of a doctor was connected to it. They say that men will never chop off bits of themselves for sexual gratification - well the evidence is that they are lying.

That's not funny @MeatRaffleRita

Hopper by name . . . .

I think @MNHQ need to change the title of this one. It’s very ableist to talk about trading money and disability. Many of the comments do focus on the article itself, rather than the title. But it’s quite offensive to make comments about how much money would make disablement bearable for you.
I’m also not convinced people intend to cause this offence, so hopefully a moment of reflection.

Trying to work out how he got sepsis from a stomach bug he and his daughter got whilst camping. She recovered quickly thank goodness, but he then developed pneumonia which affected his feet? Or is there a suggestion that he injected himself with toxins? Hence the fraud charges?

Just bizarre. No amount of money because as a 10 year old I happened to catch on the news, after watching the Magic Roundabout, that a young woman who was shopping for her wedding dress in Northern Ireland, lost both her legs following a bomb. I was inconsolable. Lived in Northern Ireland at that time. The news was swiftly turned off after children's programmes after that. I cannot understand why you would have a fetish about that.

Always get a second Dr opinion, especially before major operations, folks. I dread to think what's going to come out, I think it's the usual press drip feed in preparation.

This is a horrifying thought. I don't think we've heard the end of this story, by a long stretch.

My legs are short and stumpy (excessively muscular due to a medical condition), but they're useful, so I'll keep them, thanks.

I can't get my head around the news story though. It's one of the weirdest and most gruesome things I've ever heard of. The articles I've read about it seem to raise more questions than they give answers.