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How much to lose your legs??

113 replies

GRex · 23/07/2025 22:40

I'll set the YABU/ YANBU rate to £10m. YABU still keeping them, they're mine. YANBU already picking out wheelchairs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
Assuming there is truth to this - WTF??? Even rolling myself up to £50m I'm in visceral horror. The money is only useful in my opinion if you can cycle, run, climb steps to change a lightbulb, play football with your kids, and feel your legs there anytime you want.

So do you have a limit?

Neil Hopper is sitting in his lounge. He has prosthetic legs and is wearing a blue shirt and a pair of glasses.

Truro surgeon accused of fraud over his leg amputations

Neil Hopper, 49, is also accused of encouraging the commission of grievous bodily harm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo

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BellissimoGecko · 24/07/2025 09:40

He has an amputation fetish, which ended up with him having his own healthy legs amputated. Dunno who did the amputations though.

This is going to be a gruesome case for jurors…

GRex · 24/07/2025 09:36

summertimeinLondon · 24/07/2025 00:50

Interesting article related to this question:

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

Fascinating, thanks for adding this. It is interesting to read about the body dysmorphia links, and the distinction between types of people. The guy who had his porn fetish cured by prozac was also interesting; I wonder if medication has been fully trialled for the paraphilias.

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miraxxx · 24/07/2025 09:36

TheOriginalEmu · 24/07/2025 03:30

It has nothing to do with being trans. People with BIID are not trans.

This guy has direct links with Gustavson and the eunuch crowd.One of the charges is about that. You may want to take it up with the WPATH - the most authoritative body with trans medicine why they included chapters on eunuch care in their guidance. The eunuch and null movements are definite subsets of the trans movement. Gustavson did what he did for sexual kinks and money. Take your BIID and stuff it.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:26

Cucy · 24/07/2025 06:45

For him, the money isn’t the driver.

Its all about the attention (didn’t he win an award for being so brave and is constantly fundraising etc) and he obviously has some sort of fetish too.

I agree, I watched an interview and the main things he mentioned over an over again was the care and attention.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:25

WiddlinDiddlin · 24/07/2025 03:53

The hospital trust are saying he's not done anything unprofessional toward patients...

I think he's become obsessed with being an amputee, given himself sepsis perhaps...

I am confused about the grievous bodily harm and the encouraging someone to harm others - is that getting someone to lop off his legs, or encouraging someone to lop off someone elses body parts entirely?

I doubt the money was the driving factor though - the mental illness that leads him to think he should be an amputee is the major factor.

As for legs - you can have mine, they're mostly in the way and generally useless and without them id be under the weight limit for a stair lift which would be significantly more reliable than the existing legs. I'll do you them for a few million.

But I am already a wheelchair user, and they are causing me issues. I guess its a very different story if you have fully function legs and like running about!

Sounds like he paid for videos so that is 'encouraging' the perpetrator with payment.

LancashireButterPie · 24/07/2025 09:12

Lardychops · 23/07/2025 23:41

No amount of money for my legs - god no !

I could do a pinky finger for a million maybe…

Nah little finger is the anchor to your grip strength. Try to make a fist leaving your little finger out and see how weak it is.
Lose your ring or middle finger instead.

Mayve · 24/07/2025 09:09

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

He probably couldn’t fap himself silly whilst at work in the middle of performing surgery

Mirabai · 24/07/2025 09:00

Simonjt · 24/07/2025 08:41

He needed his legs to be amputated, the case relates to fraud as he claimed the sepsis was caused by something else, as this would lead to a greater payout.

He did not have healthy legs amputated!

As per the report the implication is that the injuries to his legs were “self inflicted”. So he started out with healthy legs.

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 08:57

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

Probably didn't get off removing gangrenous limbs from elderly patients not of his preferred gender? Some people into this really have specific desires, like seeing a healthy young man have his penis removed. Stuff like that.

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 08:55

I would probably accept a few million to maybe lose half of one leg. For the sake of my child's financial security in the future.

But anyway, for this guy it sounds like he didn't get rid of his legs for the money, he was into getting rid of them for his own reasons (maybe a fetish) regardless, and thought he might as well try and get a payout for it while he's at it. It's pretty wild that he managed to do so much damage to his healthy legs it convinced a surgeon to remove them due to 'sepsis'. I don't think this chap is very mentally well.

There's a whole community out there of people into this, having it done to them and watching it be done to others. One subsection is men that call themselves 'nullos', they have a fetish for having their genitals removed and there being nothing there. It doesn't appeal to me in any way I can say! But it's clearly not a one off abberration, it's a thing.

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

cwmflahwbml · 24/07/2025 08:25

His name probably came up when they started investigating The Eunuch Maker as he'd paid for videos and encouraged Marius Gustavson to amputate people's limbs. There will have an email and transaction trail.
Then police will have connected this with him having his own legs amputated and they will have investigated him further.

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

Simonjt · 24/07/2025 08:41

He needed his legs to be amputated, the case relates to fraud as he claimed the sepsis was caused by something else, as this would lead to a greater payout.

He did not have healthy legs amputated!

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 08:36

summertimeinLondon · 24/07/2025 00:50

Interesting article related to this question:

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

I’m quoting this as I’ve just read the article and it is fascinating. Long but worth your time to read it.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/07/2025 08:28

Crazy story. Sadly, it doesn't even shock me anymore. The lengths some people will go to for a cheap thrill.
Weirdo.
His poor patients have my sympathy.

cwmflahwbml · 24/07/2025 08:25

His name probably came up when they started investigating The Eunuch Maker as he'd paid for videos and encouraged Marius Gustavson to amputate people's limbs. There will have an email and transaction trail.
Then police will have connected this with him having his own legs amputated and they will have investigated him further.

Roastiesarethebestbit · 24/07/2025 08:20

This is so weird. And such a brief article! So much detail missing!

Mirabai · 24/07/2025 08:11

£466,000 is less than 5 years salary for a consultant NHS surgeon. So whatever this man did it for it was not the money.

Cinaferna · 24/07/2025 08:04

Bizarre. And horrific.
No amount of money.
Money is not more important than having a healthy body.

Tweedledonkey · 24/07/2025 08:01

I’m sorry, but I really do have to ask… is that his real name? Or has he changed it to match with his interests somewhere down the line? Neil (kneel) …Hopper… really? Come on, that’s too much of a coincidence surely?

ccquad · 24/07/2025 07:56

JarvisIsland · 23/07/2025 23:45

I don’t think an insurance payout would be enough if it was in the tens of thousands, but tens of millions, absolutely, they can go. I know people who cycle with leg amputations, even do triathlon etc. I’m quite athletic and I reckon I’d be fit enough to rehab to a level that would still allow me to enjoy sport. I’d not have to work and whilst I absolutely don’t doubt that it would be difficult at times, and I don’t want to minimise anyone’s experience, based on previous sporting injuries, whilst it’s been a bit shit, painful, frustrating etc I’ve also enjoyed (for want of a better word) learning to do stuff again with rebuilt limbs. In the tens of millions you’d have enough for top end physio and the most advanced prosthetics and I think k that would make a massive difference.

On the other hand no amount of money would convince me to lose both arms and to be honest probably not just my dominant arm either. I need the motor skills and I really feel for people with upper limb issues. Whilst some (many) people do achieve a lot I personally just couldn’t get my head round all the fine motor stuff your hands do.

It’s a really interesting discussion and I absolutely mean no negativity to those who have gone through amputation and are struggling. I know that this is theoretical and is based on significant theoretical funds to help overcome issues.

You are absolutely right: you can manage a lot more without legs than you can without hands. I say this with authority, having lost both! Your hands are so versatile that nothing can replace them. prosthetic legs (below knee) more or less can replace normal legs, with the restrictions of discomfort, needing to balance, and extra effort. Nothing replaces hands.

cc99xo · 24/07/2025 07:48

No amount of money. My 5 year old son heartbreakingly had his leg amputated a few years ago and I see his struggles and pain every single day.

ccquad · 24/07/2025 07:46

girljulian · 23/07/2025 23:36

So sorry to hear this! If I might ask, how do you type? Is it eye gaze tech?

No, I tried it and it didn’t work for me because of my varifocal glasses. I can type with my elbow or use one of the many voice typing accessibility options. For short messages my elbow results in fewer corrections!

Mangetouts · 24/07/2025 07:42

I can't imagine any world where I'd agree to amputate my limbs unless it was life-saving.

Mine don't work very well but to all those idiots who think the benefits you get are worth having a disability, take it from me they're not.

Sounds odd.

pinkdelight · 24/07/2025 07:38

QuizzlyBears · 24/07/2025 05:09

Where have you found a link between this and the trans community?

I’ve read several articles which suggest he injured his legs to induce the sepsis. Mind blowing.

The Atlantic article posted above talks about the whole spectrum from this kind of thing to trans angle (not a subset of that, just making connections, asking questions etc). It’s not about this case but pretty in-depth about the bigger picture. Thanks to the pp for posting it, interesting read.

Radionowhere · 24/07/2025 07:37

ScruffMuffin · 24/07/2025 01:41

This is a horrifying thought. I don't think we've heard the end of this story, by a long stretch.

The bland NHS statement sounds like a tick box. They've had no complaints obviously. Certainly doesn't mean there was no malpractice.