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LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 16:04

This is long and complicated but I really need some advice and to know whether I'm being unreasonable.

I'm in my 30’s and still live at home due to severe mental health issues. I live with my mother and my younger sister and for the past year—my older sister too. I have agrophobia and I haven't left the house in a lot of years. I mostly stick to my bedroom.

For the past 9 years, my mother has been having her grandchildren every weekend. They're not her grandchildren by blood (this is the complicated bit) They’re the children of someone my mother adopted (unofficially) At first it was just the one (DGD) but now there is five of them (they're a blended family) DSGS (13) DGD (10) DSGS (10) DGD (3) and DGS (6M). She will have the two youngest from thus-monday and the oldest three Fri-Sun. The house is always very chaotic and that's something I struggle with.

Now, I adore all of the kids and I have a really good relationship with them. I call them my nephews and nieces and they call me Auntie. They love hanging out with me and I love spending time with them. However, they can be a handful, especially the two oldest. They fight constantly. DGD has explosive tantrums which include yelling, throwing things, and screaming/crying. This type of behaviour is something I really can't handle, it makes me anxious and I get overwhelmed and experience sensory overload. DGD is always in some kind of trouble. She has recently been being violent at school and sometimes shows aggression towards her siblings. As far as I know her parents are in the process of seeking help for her behaviour because its gotten to a point where they can't manage it either.

I have spoken to my mother and told her that having them here with all the chaos and the fighting and tantrums, is really affecting me mentally which in turn is taking a toll of my physical health. However, she says its her house and her choice to have them and I can't control who she has in her house. She says I'm being selfish by not wanting them here every week. She says she should be allowed to spend as much time with them as she wants. She will not budge on the matter

I honestly don't know what to. I'm at a real loss because I can't move out and even if I could, I don't think I would cope on my own. Now, I'm debating with myself on whether I am just being selfish and dramatic or if I really am entitled to some peace and quiet once in a while.

OP posts:
LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 21:37

Takenoprisoner · 23/07/2025 19:48

They are in their house when we have them.

Are the children in your house or their own when your mother is looking after them? Above post is confusing

The children's parents are at their own house when their children sleep at my mother's house.

OP posts:
LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 21:30

Hotflushesandchilblains · 23/07/2025 20:57

Hi OP, read all your posts and you sound like you are doing a good job of navigating a really hard situation. Social services is definitely a good idea, but I also wonder why your therapy is only coming through a Talking Therapies service? They are primary care services meant for less severe problems - and what you are describing is anything but. Have you ever been referred to the local Community Mental Health Trust? They usually have longer term therapy (although waiting lists can be very long) so you dont keep doing the stop and start your describe. A lot of local Trusts will try to fob you off onto TT services, but if you have been through several times and are still so impaired, it is time for your GP to refer you to secondary care.

Talking therapies is the only place I have been referred Toby my GP and by myself. I also had some counselling from a local charity called Someone Cares about ten years ago. They helped a little but there waiting list is very long.

OP posts:
LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 21:25

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 23/07/2025 20:57

OP, the thing that strikes me most is how passive your posts sound. You just seem to be letting life happen around you in some ways - you don’t query the fact that you pay 50% of the rent even though you’re clearly being ripped off by your family; you don’t query whether you’re getting all the benefits you’re entitled to, etc.

Is this all you want for yourself, forever? And if not, how can you go about changing it?

This is definitely not what I want for myself. I really didn't know that was happening. I have never spoken to anyone outside of family about my situation. My therapists have never asked about finances. I thought what I was giving my mother was normal for me to live in her house. We have always had to pay our own way (my sisters because I didn't live at home when I was first able to get my own money) I have always helped with money even when I didn't live at home that's just what was expected of me.

OP posts:
BoudiccaRuled · 23/07/2025 21:23

Can you get a job at a large property as a live-in housekeeper or cleaner? You wouldn't need to leave the property but would be independent and have your own space.

Dideon · 23/07/2025 21:05

It sounds like you’re really switched on and a really positive part of the kids lives. Please credit yourself with that.
From experience pinning your hopes on weekly talking session with a therapist to get better is at best hopeful. I had to make a massive concerted effort to get better with exposure, medication, excercise, mindfulness, self taught CBT etc. so many people are waiting for that silver bullet appointment with a therapist to get better . I know you’ve got the mindfulness and medication sorted. Have you got a good CBT workbook?

Hotflushesandchilblains · 23/07/2025 20:57

Hi OP, read all your posts and you sound like you are doing a good job of navigating a really hard situation. Social services is definitely a good idea, but I also wonder why your therapy is only coming through a Talking Therapies service? They are primary care services meant for less severe problems - and what you are describing is anything but. Have you ever been referred to the local Community Mental Health Trust? They usually have longer term therapy (although waiting lists can be very long) so you dont keep doing the stop and start your describe. A lot of local Trusts will try to fob you off onto TT services, but if you have been through several times and are still so impaired, it is time for your GP to refer you to secondary care.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 23/07/2025 20:57

OP, the thing that strikes me most is how passive your posts sound. You just seem to be letting life happen around you in some ways - you don’t query the fact that you pay 50% of the rent even though you’re clearly being ripped off by your family; you don’t query whether you’re getting all the benefits you’re entitled to, etc.

Is this all you want for yourself, forever? And if not, how can you go about changing it?

BruFord · 23/07/2025 20:53

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:42

I don't get that much. I don't know what the health component is. I just get pip and UC. I pay rent and housekeeping.

@LoserMonA If the rent and housekeeping were equally split between the four adults, you’d have more disposable income that you could use for therapies, etc.

Something is off here. You’re trying to get better but it sounds as if you’re being used financially to support the rest of the household.

Takenoprisoner · 23/07/2025 20:49

@LoserMonA could you clarify whether your mother looks after the children at your home or at their house?

These parents sound like complete deadbeats offloading their children onto your family, being unable to cope with their own dc, going on holiday without the dc, and your mother is enabling their behaviour by doing all the childcare. Without your mother's enabling, they would have to start looking after their own children and the children's behaviour might even improve with greater stability.

There's nothing to say they won't be having more children, as the youngest baby is 6 months old. This situation will not improve for you. The only way is to move out.

Dutchhouse14 · 23/07/2025 20:49

Im sorry you are really struggling OP.
It does sound really chaotic, do DGC sleep over as well? ?! Tbh if they are spending Thurs-Mon at yours it sounds like she's actually bringing them up not their parents, it does sound A LOT, we're not talking a visit once a week.
You say you pay 50% of the rent, are you on the tenancy agreement? because it sounds like you should be if you are contributing half.
I'm not sure if social services would be able to help house you as you clearly struggle a lot with your MH, but it's definitely worth an ask. Have you been to your GP or investigated any diagnosis such as autism for example? Are you getting support for agrophobia?
I am going to go against the grain here, having an anxious autistic 18 year old myself, I would put my DDs welfare first and do anything I could to help, that would not mean never having DGC but or would be about putting firm boundaries in place as 5 days a week is too much and I wonder if your DM is being taken advantage of and can't say no. What is the reason for 5 days of childcare for youngest 2 and 3 (overlapping) days of childcare for oldest 3, so it's 3 days of looking after 5DC plus 2 days of looking after 2DC ???
I agree about noise cancelling headphones as a short term solution, but getting support for your agrophobia would definitely help as you may then be able to leave the house and escape the choas for a short while.
I hope you get to recuperate and reset on the 2 days a week when they are not there.

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:49

Loadsapandas · 23/07/2025 20:35

OP you sound like you’ve had such a hard time and TBH, your mum doesn’t sound so nice.

she chose someone else (I assume a partner) who was a danger to her children meaning you had to leave home at 14?
I bet there’s more to this for all your childhood that’s lead to such severe MH issues.

It’s admirable that your mum is looking after all these DC, but their home sound chaotic and quite frankly I’m wondering if your mum has co-dependency issues?

I’ve no advice really, it is her house. But just wanted to point out that if I’m reading between the lines correctly, your mum sounds awful.

It wasn't a partner, it was another family member who is linked to my PTSD. My mother hasn't always been the best but I try not to let the past cloud my judgment of who she is now. I genuinely believe she is trying to do better. I think that maybe be the catalyst to why she cares for the children so much. I didn't really want to get into to specifics about my childhood and what contributed to the way I am but I guess people need the full story to make an informed decision 😅

OP posts:
wp65 · 23/07/2025 20:42

Loadsapandas · 23/07/2025 20:35

OP you sound like you’ve had such a hard time and TBH, your mum doesn’t sound so nice.

she chose someone else (I assume a partner) who was a danger to her children meaning you had to leave home at 14?
I bet there’s more to this for all your childhood that’s lead to such severe MH issues.

It’s admirable that your mum is looking after all these DC, but their home sound chaotic and quite frankly I’m wondering if your mum has co-dependency issues?

I’ve no advice really, it is her house. But just wanted to point out that if I’m reading between the lines correctly, your mum sounds awful.

I agree with this.

To the poster saying the mum sounds amazing… have you read all the OP’s posts?

OP, it might be worth considering whether a dysfunctional family dynamic might be contributing to your MH problems. At the very least at, living with your mum certainly doesn’t seem to be helping you recover. It doesn’t sound like she has ever been particularly considerate or empathetic towards you.

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:42

SkipperTheEyeChild · 23/07/2025 20:26

How are you not able to afford therapy? Universal credit+PIP+the health component that youll be getting on top of your UC must come to at least £900 a month or so.

I don't get that much. I don't know what the health component is. I just get pip and UC. I pay rent and housekeeping.

OP posts:
LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:40

Farmwifefarmlife · 23/07/2025 20:35

If you’ve got savings why not pay to have private treatment?
1 pay for treatment & get better
2 Get a job
3 move out
surly you can’t be happy ?

Why did the parents of 5 children keep having more if they can’t cope with the behaviour of the 10 yr old. Why do they not work? I can’t believe the government just let people sit at home all day! I’d be cross if I was one of your sisters who are working yet financially supporting others who aren’t ?

I have a little bit but not enough right now for private therapy, but that is a goal of mine as well as the othrt things. I do some online courses that in hoping will help with the job department once I'm able to work.

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IOSTT · 23/07/2025 20:38

Hi Op, it sounds like you are dealing with so much and it’s not surprising you feel overwhelmed! With the not going outside, would you possibly be able to go out after dark, eg in a car with someone you trust, if no one could see you? Just a thought. Also, I don’t know if the Optimum Health Clinic would be able to help you, but they do “Therapeutic Coaching”, which involves talking to the same practitioner over time, and can help you understand and change how your traumas link to physical symptoms. They do a free discovery call and have a free info pack. As I said, not sure if this is something that could help, but maybe something you could look into. Here’s a link…

https://www.theoptimumhealthclinic.com/programs/psychology

I hope you can find some peace and calm 💐

The Optimum Health Clinic: Psychology Department

Our world-leading team use our Therapeutic Coaching™ methodology to offer an integrative path to optimum health, targeting the mind, body and nervous system.

https://www.theoptimumhealthclinic.com/programs/psychology

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:35

Ukholidaysaregreat · 23/07/2025 20:15

Hi OP! There is a lot going on at your house. It was very nice of your Mum to support this person when they were young. Your Mum supporting them now by having 5 kids Thurs to Mon is probably stopping them going into care. The couple really need to stop having more kids and giving them to your Mum to look after all week. Your Mum is very kind hearted and loves the kids so she is doing it but it is a very big ask. I hope you are OK. Moving out of your Mum's house aged only 14 is very young. Leaving home at that age can have a big effect on people. You were still only a young child. I have read that you are agoraphobic I hope you are recieving some medical attention. Doctors should be able to zoom call you with put leaving the house. You sound really lovely drawing and doing activities with the kids when they are round. I hope you are eating well and that you have meds to help you. We often need medication to get better properly. Have you tried mindfulness and positive yoga type things. You could find videos on you tube and do them in your room. You could have a diary of things to be grateful for or dance to music for ten minutes a day in your room. Different things work well for different people. I hope you can start your recovery. Good Luck for the future. Xxxx

Thank you so much for your kind comment. For the past 6 years I have been very supportive of my mother having the children. I really love them so much. I enjoy hanging out with them and doing things with them. They love spending time with me too. They will ask to hang out with me and I'm always more than happy to grant their request. I have them one on one and I have them all together (apart from the baby) we hang out in my room (I bought a PlayStation for them so they could game with their friends) I buy art supplies for them so they can do arts and crafts. We read books, we do puzzles and quizzes. We have movie nights with snacks. We have listening parties when a new album they like drops. They know they can ask for anything and if I can get it for them, I will. They also confide in me about everything; problems at school, problems at home, problems with each other. My room is a safe space for them too.

Things have just gotten more difficult for me over the past few months and my mental health has declined. Things have also gotten harder for them (a new baby) as you can gather they do not spend enough time with their parents. They have started playing up more, lots more fighting and lots more tantrums. That is what is affecting me. The screaming, crying, throwing things and aggression is causing my anxiety and ptsd to skyrocket. All I had asked my mother for was a little break. Right now I have two days child-free and since its now the summer holidays, I know those days will not be consistent. It is not unhead of for their parents to leave them for a week or two while they go on holiday.

I am getting therapy and I am on meds. I use a mindful app to help manage my physical symptoms of anxiety but sometimes nothing works.

OP posts:
Loadsapandas · 23/07/2025 20:35

OP you sound like you’ve had such a hard time and TBH, your mum doesn’t sound so nice.

she chose someone else (I assume a partner) who was a danger to her children meaning you had to leave home at 14?
I bet there’s more to this for all your childhood that’s lead to such severe MH issues.

It’s admirable that your mum is looking after all these DC, but their home sound chaotic and quite frankly I’m wondering if your mum has co-dependency issues?

I’ve no advice really, it is her house. But just wanted to point out that if I’m reading between the lines correctly, your mum sounds awful.

Farmwifefarmlife · 23/07/2025 20:35

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:12

I don't know what my sisters pay. I just pay what I'm supposed to. I'm doing okay financially. I have a little bit of savings as well.

If you’ve got savings why not pay to have private treatment?
1 pay for treatment & get better
2 Get a job
3 move out
surly you can’t be happy ?

Why did the parents of 5 children keep having more if they can’t cope with the behaviour of the 10 yr old. Why do they not work? I can’t believe the government just let people sit at home all day! I’d be cross if I was one of your sisters who are working yet financially supporting others who aren’t ?

Toastandbutterand · 23/07/2025 20:33

Porchlight offers support workers if they're in your area.

Toastandbutterand · 23/07/2025 20:29

Toastandbutterand · 23/07/2025 20:26

You may not feel like it, but all of this tells me that you've already taken huge steps!
This is really good news!

You already have coped with navigating the difficult starting point, now you need to expand on that. I'd start with a Google of local charities, support workers can be hard to find. Our local homeless charity offers them, and you probably wouldn't think of looking there!
We are with you often allow group therapy alongside individual, so ask your therapist if you can do both. You don't have to share details with group therapy, it just gives you a chance for continued support with the same organisation. These groups are often online so you don't have to leave the house. I completely hear you on the fact it's distressing to repeat your circumstances over and over again!

And do check with universal credit next time you have an appointment. They're usually delighted to help anyone in the health group by signposting other organisations that can help.

Get yourself on the council house list too, if you haven't already. Sometimes they can be really useful as liaisons.

I don't know why I thought you were with 'we are with you', sorry, its not in your post!

I must have just made that up in my head 🤣
Do check if your therapy offers group as well though, for continuation of care.

SkipperTheEyeChild · 23/07/2025 20:26

How are you not able to afford therapy? Universal credit+PIP+the health component that youll be getting on top of your UC must come to at least £900 a month or so.

Left · 23/07/2025 20:26

Hi OP - just remembered something - have you asked your GP if there is a social prescribing resource in your area? This could be a new source of support for you if your GP thinks appropriate 🙂

Toastandbutterand · 23/07/2025 20:26

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 20:06

I always self refer myself to talking therapies. The things I struggle with is that I have lot of things that happened in my childhood that has contributed to the way I am now and my mental health. It takes me a while to open up and talk about it so it feels like as soon as I do and start trusting the person, the sessions are over. It is tiring and emotionally brutal to have to go over it every time I get a new therapist. I really want to work on saving up so I can afford to go private as I think that's what will help me the most.

I do get pip and UC so financially, I am doing okay but I do help out a lot at home with money. I didn't know there was any other help out there for me. Last year I had a woman who would come to the house and speak with me and helped me make a plan for going outside but then she just stopped coming. Not a lot of people know abouty situation apart from family and close friends so I've never had any outside advice or been told what help is available.

I really appreciate your comment and I will follow your advice.

You may not feel like it, but all of this tells me that you've already taken huge steps!
This is really good news!

You already have coped with navigating the difficult starting point, now you need to expand on that. I'd start with a Google of local charities, support workers can be hard to find. Our local homeless charity offers them, and you probably wouldn't think of looking there!
We are with you often allow group therapy alongside individual, so ask your therapist if you can do both. You don't have to share details with group therapy, it just gives you a chance for continued support with the same organisation. These groups are often online so you don't have to leave the house. I completely hear you on the fact it's distressing to repeat your circumstances over and over again!

And do check with universal credit next time you have an appointment. They're usually delighted to help anyone in the health group by signposting other organisations that can help.

Get yourself on the council house list too, if you haven't already. Sometimes they can be really useful as liaisons.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 23/07/2025 20:15

Hi OP! There is a lot going on at your house. It was very nice of your Mum to support this person when they were young. Your Mum supporting them now by having 5 kids Thurs to Mon is probably stopping them going into care. The couple really need to stop having more kids and giving them to your Mum to look after all week. Your Mum is very kind hearted and loves the kids so she is doing it but it is a very big ask. I hope you are OK. Moving out of your Mum's house aged only 14 is very young. Leaving home at that age can have a big effect on people. You were still only a young child. I have read that you are agoraphobic I hope you are recieving some medical attention. Doctors should be able to zoom call you with put leaving the house. You sound really lovely drawing and doing activities with the kids when they are round. I hope you are eating well and that you have meds to help you. We often need medication to get better properly. Have you tried mindfulness and positive yoga type things. You could find videos on you tube and do them in your room. You could have a diary of things to be grateful for or dance to music for ten minutes a day in your room. Different things work well for different people. I hope you can start your recovery. Good Luck for the future. Xxxx

BruFord · 23/07/2025 20:15

@LoserMonA You paying half the rent and the other 50% divided between your Mum and your two sisters is ridiculous though. You’re subsidizing your adult sisters who both work!

In your shoes, I’d say that I can’t keep paying half the rent.

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