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LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 16:04

This is long and complicated but I really need some advice and to know whether I'm being unreasonable.

I'm in my 30’s and still live at home due to severe mental health issues. I live with my mother and my younger sister and for the past year—my older sister too. I have agrophobia and I haven't left the house in a lot of years. I mostly stick to my bedroom.

For the past 9 years, my mother has been having her grandchildren every weekend. They're not her grandchildren by blood (this is the complicated bit) They’re the children of someone my mother adopted (unofficially) At first it was just the one (DGD) but now there is five of them (they're a blended family) DSGS (13) DGD (10) DSGS (10) DGD (3) and DGS (6M). She will have the two youngest from thus-monday and the oldest three Fri-Sun. The house is always very chaotic and that's something I struggle with.

Now, I adore all of the kids and I have a really good relationship with them. I call them my nephews and nieces and they call me Auntie. They love hanging out with me and I love spending time with them. However, they can be a handful, especially the two oldest. They fight constantly. DGD has explosive tantrums which include yelling, throwing things, and screaming/crying. This type of behaviour is something I really can't handle, it makes me anxious and I get overwhelmed and experience sensory overload. DGD is always in some kind of trouble. She has recently been being violent at school and sometimes shows aggression towards her siblings. As far as I know her parents are in the process of seeking help for her behaviour because its gotten to a point where they can't manage it either.

I have spoken to my mother and told her that having them here with all the chaos and the fighting and tantrums, is really affecting me mentally which in turn is taking a toll of my physical health. However, she says its her house and her choice to have them and I can't control who she has in her house. She says I'm being selfish by not wanting them here every week. She says she should be allowed to spend as much time with them as she wants. She will not budge on the matter

I honestly don't know what to. I'm at a real loss because I can't move out and even if I could, I don't think I would cope on my own. Now, I'm debating with myself on whether I am just being selfish and dramatic or if I really am entitled to some peace and quiet once in a while.

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XenoBitch · 24/07/2025 22:57

OP, you sound amazing.
But you do need to put yourself first.

Is there a MIND where you live? They could help you with getting out and about in a slow way that works for you.

If you need some help in how to word things with your mum, then look up DEAR MAN. It is a DBT skill.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 24/07/2025 20:48

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 21:30

Talking therapies is the only place I have been referred Toby my GP and by myself. I also had some counselling from a local charity called Someone Cares about ten years ago. They helped a little but there waiting list is very long.

You may need to talk to another GP, but TT is not designed for severe and enduring MH problems. I would guess they are sending you there because your local CMHT is overwhelmed. But giving you a subclinical dose of treatment is not going to be helpful and TT will not be able to give you what you need. If you have done TT several times, and the GP insists on sending you back again, you could ask the TT therapist to refer you to secondary care. But really, the GP should be on this. 9 years of not going out deserves serious attention.

Dideon · 24/07/2025 15:27

LoserMonA · 24/07/2025 14:31

I think she's much better now than she was when I was a child. She is trying her best to be a better parent, just to someone else's kids. I think she feels a lot of guilt over mine and my sisters childhoods and this is her “do-over”. It just sucks that I feel exactly the same way as I did back then; I feel like she's prioritising other people over me, again. But, I guess that is selfish because I'm an now adult and they are literal children.

We have always helped with money so until now I didn't know anything was wrong with the financial side of things. I help with the children because they don't deserve to be neglected. I try and make things better for them as I'm not ignorant to how this arrangement is affecting them. They are also not a priority to their parents and I know first-hand how damaging that is. I do my best to let them know that they will always be a priority to me but it's difficult because I know it’s not my attention that they want. Also, I never wanted children. I knew I wouldn't be able to give them a good life with all of my issues. I do feel as though parenting was thrust upon me and now I'm just doing the best I can, but things have gotten too much for me and I just needed a break.

After reading everyone's advice and seeing things from an outside perspective, I don't think a break will cut it anymore. I realise now that I have to leave the whole situation if I'm ever going to get to a place where I can actually live my life instead of just surviving.

I just wanted to add that there will be many people (some maybe even contributing to this post) who are living a good life. They may have once been neck deep in serious mental health conditions and probably thought they were never going to get stronger . You sound so emotionally intelligent that I don’t think your obstacle is a good therapist (although I’m not saying one couldn’t help). In my opinion your obstacle is your household, your family dynamic and you having to pick up the pieces of a problem that you were a victim of yet you feel responsible for.

LakieLady · 24/07/2025 15:26

After reading everyone's advice and seeing things from an outside perspective, I don't think a break will cut it anymore. I realise now that I have to leave the whole situation if I'm ever going to get to a place where I can actually live my life instead of just surviving.

I think this would be very wise, OP. I also think that some counselling or therapy would help you to unpack this whole history and make some sense of it.

I hope you are able to get whatever help you need.

LoserMonA · 24/07/2025 14:31

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:57

Giving your mum money even when you didn't live at home isn't normal. I know that you keep sticking up for your mum and saying that she's a great mum, but she really really isn't. She chose to let two of her own children leave home in their teens and she chose the person that made the family home unsafe for them. No decent mother would do that.

She is financially abusing you and using you for childcare for all these unrelated children. I know you say that you love them all and you probably do, but this situation isn't normal or healthy.

You need to speak to Adult Social Services and get support to move into sheltered housing/supported living away from your disfunctional family. You will never get better in your current home environment where everyone is more important than you.

I think she's much better now than she was when I was a child. She is trying her best to be a better parent, just to someone else's kids. I think she feels a lot of guilt over mine and my sisters childhoods and this is her “do-over”. It just sucks that I feel exactly the same way as I did back then; I feel like she's prioritising other people over me, again. But, I guess that is selfish because I'm an now adult and they are literal children.

We have always helped with money so until now I didn't know anything was wrong with the financial side of things. I help with the children because they don't deserve to be neglected. I try and make things better for them as I'm not ignorant to how this arrangement is affecting them. They are also not a priority to their parents and I know first-hand how damaging that is. I do my best to let them know that they will always be a priority to me but it's difficult because I know it’s not my attention that they want. Also, I never wanted children. I knew I wouldn't be able to give them a good life with all of my issues. I do feel as though parenting was thrust upon me and now I'm just doing the best I can, but things have gotten too much for me and I just needed a break.

After reading everyone's advice and seeing things from an outside perspective, I don't think a break will cut it anymore. I realise now that I have to leave the whole situation if I'm ever going to get to a place where I can actually live my life instead of just surviving.

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LakieLady · 24/07/2025 13:59

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 19:03

Something happened where it was no longer safe for me or my younger sister to live at home. She basically had to make a choice between us and someone else and she chose them. My sister went to live with her father and I moved in with other family members. My sister went back after a little while but I didn't. I didn't move back until I was in my twenties.

I think adult social services will likely be my next move. Honestly, I didn't know they could help me as apart from my mental health, I have no disabilities.

It might also be helpful to apply for social housing, OP. It sounds as though your housing situation may be having an adverse effect on your mental health.

In some council areas (mine is one of them) it's often easier to get a one-bed place than it is for a family to get a home, because there is less demand and it's only people who are vulnerable that are eligible.

You can apply online with most councils.

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/07/2025 13:51

Dideon · 24/07/2025 13:40

Agoraphobia is a way of trying to be in control when you feel completely out of control. I cannot see you getting better in that house hold . I really wish you well. You sound so kind and switched on.

I think this too. And there is still so much out of your control that it’s really hard for you. Op, let’s look at what is in your control. one thing that is in your control is to pay a bit less to your mum, tell her the living situation is hard on you, you need to try harder to save for support, and you will now be paying x instead of y, and she will have to ask your sisters for more or manage. Then the other thing you can do is less for the kids- I know that’s also hard in your situation so perhaps if you take a different tab, think of things you like /want to do for yourself, and you have to do two of those each day before doing anything for the kids?

Dideon · 24/07/2025 13:40

Agoraphobia is a way of trying to be in control when you feel completely out of control. I cannot see you getting better in that house hold . I really wish you well. You sound so kind and switched on.

Dideon · 24/07/2025 13:36

LoserMonA · 24/07/2025 13:23

It wasn't the parent of the grandchildren, no. I moved out because it was unsafe for me and my younger sister to live at home while another family member was living there. My mother got a choice between us and him. She chose him. My sister want to her fathers (for around a year) and I moved in with other various family members (grandparents, half brother, cousin) my sister eventually went back home but I didn't because I was bitter that I had to leave in the first place. I got my own place at 17.

Yes my childhood is the reason for my poor mental health health. I went through a court case with the same family member that my mother chose over me when I was 21 for something that happened when I was a child and lasted for five years, at the same time I was in a physically abusive relationship with someone 10years older than me. When I finally left that relationship, my mother told me to move back home so she could help me with my mental health and so she wasn't struggling financially.

You do realise though that you are never going to get better in your mama house. It’s not really in your mams interest for you to get better . You provide on tab childcare and finances that she will not want to loose.

LoserMonA · 24/07/2025 13:23

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:20

Why did you move out at the age of 14? Where did you go? Were there issues at home that have caused your mental health problems? Who is the person that your mum 'unofficially' adopted? Is that why you left home?

Everyone is taking your mum's side but I'm wondering if there is a lot more to this story. Your mum obviously needs her children living at home to support her financially and help with all these 'grandchildren'.

It wasn't the parent of the grandchildren, no. I moved out because it was unsafe for me and my younger sister to live at home while another family member was living there. My mother got a choice between us and him. She chose him. My sister want to her fathers (for around a year) and I moved in with other various family members (grandparents, half brother, cousin) my sister eventually went back home but I didn't because I was bitter that I had to leave in the first place. I got my own place at 17.

Yes my childhood is the reason for my poor mental health health. I went through a court case with the same family member that my mother chose over me when I was 21 for something that happened when I was a child and lasted for five years, at the same time I was in a physically abusive relationship with someone 10years older than me. When I finally left that relationship, my mother told me to move back home so she could help me with my mental health and so she wasn't struggling financially.

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Cinaferna · 24/07/2025 09:53

LBFseBrom · 23/07/2025 17:31

Cinaferna, the op is agoraphobic. She does not go out.

Sorry. I missed that.

clarepetal · 24/07/2025 09:18

May913 · 23/07/2025 16:55

You do need to put your mental health first, but you need to do that by getting all the help you can. You haven't left the house in years OP, and that is not ok, that is not a life.

You can't expect your mum to tip toe around your MH issues forever, you've been an adult for a long time and living at her house for years and years if not your whole life. Is she supposed to wait indefinitely for you to deal with your issues before she can have the children? That is unfair, and as things are currently going they could be grown up before it happens.

You need to get help OP, you need meds for anxiety if you're not already on then and you need help with your agoraphobia. You deserve a life and you mum deserves a life too.
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This is spot on. You aren't entitled, just in a shit situation.

Oneeyedonkey · 24/07/2025 09:12

GhoulNextDoor · 24/07/2025 09:08

@Oneeyedonkey aren't you delightful. It was recommended I call 999 based on my symptoms, your opinion on that doesn't change that that's what I was advised. Suicidal people are also advised to call 999 when in crisis but I'm sure you'll also argue that they're not worthy either.

Just because I don't agree with you and I'm calling you out, doesn't make me "delightful"

You clearly didn't need immediate medical help.

GhoulNextDoor · 24/07/2025 09:08

@Oneeyedonkey aren't you delightful. It was recommended I call 999 based on my symptoms, your opinion on that doesn't change that that's what I was advised. Suicidal people are also advised to call 999 when in crisis but I'm sure you'll also argue that they're not worthy either.

Oneeyedonkey · 24/07/2025 09:04

GhoulNextDoor · 24/07/2025 08:57

@Oneeyedonkey thank you for your kind and insightful comment. Empathy is free you know 🥰.

So is common sense.

GhoulNextDoor · 24/07/2025 08:57

@Oneeyedonkey thank you for your kind and insightful comment. Empathy is free you know 🥰.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/07/2025 08:32

You need to work on your mental health and getting out of the house rather than worrying about others.

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 24/07/2025 08:31

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:36

I don't think that OP's mum sounds amazing at all. OP was only 14 when she left home. 14 year olds in a happy home don't do that.

Her mum couldn't afford to live in that house and wouldn't be able to look after all these children without the financial and practical support of her three daughters. If you had read OP's posts, you would see that she contributes more than 50% to the family finances, including rent and that she helps to care for all these unrelated children. The ones who are taking advantage are the parents of all these children, who don't work and don't pay for anything for their kids.

I think that OP should try and move out into sheltered/supported accommodation for her own well being.

Agree with this, there’s a lot of shit parenting on display here, with the OP’s mum looking like the root of it all.

NigellaWannabe1 · 24/07/2025 08:28

I want to say, OP, that I apologise for my earlier, harsher comments. I’ve changed my mind after reading this thread and think you’re in a really difficult situation. It sounds like you had it very rough in your early years.

i wish you all the best. I hope you can overcome your agoraphobia and can go on to have a happy, fulfilled life.

PollyBell · 24/07/2025 08:14

Welliesandtweed · 24/07/2025 08:03

It can be possible. Thinking like that won't improve your mental health

Yes no one can that but yourself

Welliesandtweed · 24/07/2025 08:03

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 16:41

I would love to move out. It just isnt possible right now with my current mental health situation.

It can be possible. Thinking like that won't improve your mental health

TreesWelliesKnees · 24/07/2025 08:01

I think the enmeshed, unhealthy dependencies in the family are probably a large part of your mental health problems, OP. You seem to be squashing down all the reactions and emotions that would be normal responses to your living situation and your past experiences. You no longer seem to have any agency over your life and the mental health problems seem like a kind of 'collapse' response to all the chaos and enmeshment. Therapy may not be helpful while you are still in that situation. It might be better to focus all your energy into getting a council flat, and then try to get some long term therapy to help you process it all. It's not your responsibility to fund your mother - she will have to find her own solutions.

Edited to add: I don't mean that you shouldn't be contributing to costs while you are living there. I just mean that how your mother will manage if you leave home is not your problem. You need to find boundaries.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:57

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 21:25

This is definitely not what I want for myself. I really didn't know that was happening. I have never spoken to anyone outside of family about my situation. My therapists have never asked about finances. I thought what I was giving my mother was normal for me to live in her house. We have always had to pay our own way (my sisters because I didn't live at home when I was first able to get my own money) I have always helped with money even when I didn't live at home that's just what was expected of me.

Giving your mum money even when you didn't live at home isn't normal. I know that you keep sticking up for your mum and saying that she's a great mum, but she really really isn't. She chose to let two of her own children leave home in their teens and she chose the person that made the family home unsafe for them. No decent mother would do that.

She is financially abusing you and using you for childcare for all these unrelated children. I know you say that you love them all and you probably do, but this situation isn't normal or healthy.

You need to speak to Adult Social Services and get support to move into sheltered housing/supported living away from your disfunctional family. You will never get better in your current home environment where everyone is more important than you.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:45

Lanzarotelady · 23/07/2025 19:20

You have said you're not disabled! Why are you getting burnt out at doing day to day tasks, recovery time, recover from what!??!

She has said that she doesn't think of herself as disabled. She obviously is, and it is obviously due to her mum's behaviour when OP was a child and OP had to be removed from the family home for her own safety.

There are so many ignorant posters on here, including yourself.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2025 07:41

LoserMonA · 23/07/2025 19:03

Something happened where it was no longer safe for me or my younger sister to live at home. She basically had to make a choice between us and someone else and she chose them. My sister went to live with her father and I moved in with other family members. My sister went back after a little while but I didn't. I didn't move back until I was in my twenties.

I think adult social services will likely be my next move. Honestly, I didn't know they could help me as apart from my mental health, I have no disabilities.

Your mental health problems, particularly your agoraphobia, are disabilities that negatively impact your life just as much as other kinds of disabilities would do. You should be entitled to help.

Your mum put someone else first during your childhood that meant that you needed to leave your own home at 14. I'm surprised that you are so supportive of her, financially and practically, after she did that to you.

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