Vaping is EVERYWHERE

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'huge cloud'
'massive smoke plumes'
'smoke from your lungs'
'adult dummy'
'pacifiers'
'I saw someone with a vape on a bike today!!'
'it's like breathing in a fart'

all of those are hyperbole and hysterical. It's ridiculous.

Could you be anymore patronising.
There’s no comparison to standing next to someone and breathing the same air, to someone who is smoking or vaping.
As far as many of these threads being hysterical, is it just because you don’t agree, so then turn it around, the other person is just being hysterical.

The UK has the lowest rate of smoking in Europe* in large part because our public health system took a progressive attitude to vaping as a method of harm reduction. Over the course of eight years, Public Health England produced some really outstanding evidence reviews covering every aspect of vaping you could possibly think of. They also produced sensible policy recommendations and got stop smoking services on board. It's a massive shame this work does not seem to have been continued since PHE was scrapped.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/e-cigarettes-and-vaping-policy-regulation-and-guidance

Tobacco companies only got involved relatively recently. It used to be all SMEs, very often run by vapers themselves who were really happy and excited to have finally found a way to quit smoking after years of failed attempts. The Tobacco Products Directive (EU law introduced in 2016 which regulated vapes as 'tobacco products') tipped the market in the tobacco companies' favour. I don't think they started producing vapes until after the TPD.

There have been issues with disposables and marketing. Disposables are now banned and we're getting new laws around marketing. It's been illegal to sell vapes to under 18s for years. What's really needed is for trading standards to have a much bigger budget and greater enforcement powers.

*We share the lowest rate with Norway, where Snus has been popular for centuries.

This is about people vaping inside, enclosed spaces, not agreeing to this, is hardly being hysterical.

YANBU. I hate it. I think people look like toddlers sucking dummies when they are sucking on them!' They were originally created to help people quit smoking, and were only meant for short term use, but many people just started to 'vape' for shits and giggles. Daft thing to do, and they look daft, sucking on them!

As has been said, God alone knows what the long term effects are going to be.

I can't understand it. Went to a country park and whilst no one was smoking a lighted cigarette, the vaping was awful. Plus saw some empty vape canisters along the trails.

It's becoming a concern now. I don't want to breathe in your vapour exhalation.

Vaping is a health crisis waiting to happen me thinks.

An aerosol is a cloud of droplets suspended in air and technically the visible cloud from a vape is an aerosol.

The visible 'steam' from a kettle is also an aerosol. Actual steam - water in its gaseous state - is not visible. Sometimes you can see a small gap between the spout of a fast boiling kettle and the visible cloud - that's the steam.

Fog is another aerosol.

People are defensive as they know it’s anti social but don’t want to stop doing it.

I see these vapes as pacifiers. Sane as constantly sucking water from large cups or slurping coffee continuously. We are trying to self soothe as life is shit. I don’t like vaping. Don’t like the smell and pity the people I see doing it. I do see it as a sign of weakness which I’m sure is an unpopular opinion.

It's disgusting. They're like the adult version of a dummy 🤣

It’s definitely considered a lot less antisocial than smoking is which I think makes some vapers think it’s not antisocial at all.

I don’t like the plumes of smoke/steam/water vapour either, I realise the air contains air other people have breathed out but the direct stream from someone’s mouth into your face is quite intrusive and disgusting. Most people wouldn’t do it with a cigarette but feel it’s acceptable from a vape

The use of the word ‘think’ and ? does not suggest I was outright lying, I was questioning something I hadn’t googled but had heard of. The definition of lying is not ‘asking a question of which you are not sure if the answer’. I am not adverse to learning new things, just adverse to unpleasant pedants with sticks up their bums 🙄

I was a vaper and I believe that some of the plastics in the cheap containers from refillable vapes can leach the plastic.

Also, Google tells me that propylene is used in plastics, and is present in vape liquid. So I am not deludedly off the mark..no?

I will patiently wait for the apology!

So what? Did she stop specially in order to blow it out in your face? She can vape or smoke on her bike if she wishes.

Did you call the police to get it logged? Why not?

🤣🤣

All day every day a lot of the air you breathe in has already been in someone else's lungs. Especially if you are in indoor spaces, including your own house where your family are presumably also breathing.

I've never smoked or vaped and never will, but yes, you are sounding hysterical. Many of these threads do.

No, it isn't smoke. It is vapour. They are different.

I don't vape or smoke, but my parents were dyed in the wool smokers. I know the difference between vapour and smoke a mile off.

My mother has just turned 90. She switched from cigarettes (after almost 80 years of 40+ fags a day) after a severe bout of pneumonia almost killed her 3 or 4 years ago.

We'll never get her off nicotine in afraid, but the cloud if vapour around her now is infinitely preferable to the fug of actual smoke that used to follow her around. Vaping sneakily where she shouldn't is now something my mother also does, thinking she is being subtle (it's about as subtle as a bulldozer). I do pull her up on it but she never listens and it is me on a hiding to nothing. Vapes are as far as we are going to get her and I have to appreciate that (reluctantly).

I know vapes have their controversies, and I do agree with some of those, but they do also have their uses for persuading stubborn smokers away from cigarettes.

I'm pretty sure more people vape now compared to the number of smokers in 80's and 90's. Government should get taxing them, packet of fags must be £20 ish (not my area of expertise) so slap tax onto vapes to have some minimum price of e.g £15 and kids will soon move onto something else. Or, maybe just go back to Diamond White and MD 20/20 like the good old days.

It's so revolting, such a putrid sickly smell. I think I prefer the smell of smoking to be honest.

Could be worse.. also where do you live where the smell is always of weed?

Yes because children and teenagers choose to spend time on mumsnet 🙄

a lot of vapers are inconsiderate arseholes.

Oh .weed is everywhere now just wafting about !

Oh yes I saw him on somewhere talking about the documentary and how he stopped vaping,

If you fart from your lungs you have bigger issues than a puff of steam in a queue to worry about.