Vaping is EVERYWHERE

I object to it. I’m allowed to object. People didn’t object to smoking and when the ban came in 2007 for smoking so many pubs complained and smokers - the rest of us relieved.

Which is fine. So we can object to all people’s personal habits, smells, sounds, conduct, and so on.

I don’t want to ban persistent nail biters from going out in public, or people talking incessantly on phones, or gulping water all the time, or wearing Chanel no 5. They may all piss me off, but I’m not going to pretend there’s some urgent health reason for restricting them.

You’re entirely correct OP! I think people just forget themselves because they can bake in so many places. My office just voted whether or not to allow vaping indoors and the majority said yes! Before someone in HR had the good sense to step in and say it wasn’t going to be allowed.

As many posters said they just want a bit of consideration shown.

Well this is what the thread was originally about social objection. People are objecting to.vapers vaping near them in inappropriate spaces.

That is, yet again, a social objection.

Fine. Knock yourselves out. But at least be honest that your objection is aesthetic and personally disapproving, and nothing else.

I hate seeing people vaping as they look like they are sucking on dummies. Plus they smell awful and I feel I am breathing in air freshener if passing by.

This and I don’t want to breathe in vape flavours either. I had a sales assistant do it the other day in a shop whilst at the till. They are addicted and literally can’t stop or do a shift without vaping

That’s the same single tiny study, twice.

You’ll have to do better than that, even given that it’s your frantic google to try to support your claim.

publications.ersnet.org/content/erj/56/suppl64/4387?rss=1&utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=European_Respiratory_Journal_TrendMD_0&implicit-login=true%26560

@SilenceOfTheTimTams for example, but there are others

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7781946/

Well, they'll get cancer and you won't. Disgusting habit.

That’s a description of symptom, not allergy.

If pet dander, for example, causes impaired breathing that’s an allergy to pet dander that expresses as breathing difficulty. The allergy is to the dander.

The NHS explanation of allergy is:

An allergy is where your body reacts to something that's normally harmless like pollen, dust or animal fur. The symptoms can be mild, but for some people they can be very serious.

Cigarette smoke is not “normally harmless”.

I don’t question potential seriousness for a moment. But I’m asking what it is that people who claim to be allergic to some component of water vapour from vapes are actually allergic to.

It's not just water vapour, it contains lots of harmful substances, just like passive smoking from cigarettes. It's antisocial and shouldn't be done anywhere and everywhere. If you wouldn't about a cigarette in the situation then you shouldn't vape there either.

Yanbu it smells fucking disgusting

80% of asthmatics have allergic asthma. The inflammation in their lungs that leads to attacks is being caused by an inhaled allergen (pet dander, dust mites and pollen being common ones…otherwise tolerated common substances).

Can you back that up?

@SilenceOfTheTimTams Ask people with lung diseases. They are advised very strongly to stay away from people vaping. But I guess if it’s inconvenient, then ignore it!!

lol, lol, lol.

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You have no evidence to justify your wish to boss people around. Just admit it.

And you have absolutely no idea if the chemicals my children have to breathe in are toxic or not.

While we don't know everything about vaping, we really do know quite a lot by now.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/633469fc8fa8f5066d28e1a2/Nicotine-vaping-in-England-2022-report.pdf

There's something really undignified about vaping. It looks like a toy, somehow.

But I remember the days where many people smoked, where you were sat in a restaurant and there was smoke drifting across. On top of the bus, just everywhere. That was utterly rank. So I don't mind vaping so much, except that it looks daft.

It really is
I was standing quietly off a pavement in a set back grassed area, vaping
a woman walked off the pavement so close she stood on my foot and then tutted at me for vaping. If she had carried on the path she would have been about 8ft away!

But nobody “suffers”. Opposition to vaping is a social objection, not a medical one.

Personally, I think the social objection is an example of unpleasant, Hyacinth Bucket-style bossiness. But each to their own.

@marmite2025 it isn’t the main point for everyone. Other people shouldn’t suffer the actions of those who vape, by breathing it in themselves.