Vaping is EVERYWHERE

There will be a lot of people dying young from this

Couldn’t give a shit about any health risks, just don’t vape near me because it smells rank

Football shirts and pyjamas don’t end anger public health or indeed the health of the wearer.

Now that’s an authentic and unvarnished social objection. I don’t agree, but I give full marks for honesty.

Men wearing football shirts in restaurants and women in pyjamas in the supermarket will be next. 👍

Evidence or not, it still looks chavvy and people shouldn't be doing it indoors at public places.

Right, so you agree that these VOCs are already in the air from foodstuffs and you are already used to navigating around them.

Do you tell the bakery they're as bad as running up to people and smearing them with peanut butter?

Wow, where you live must be an extreme outlier!

https://ash.org.uk/resources/view/use-of-e-cigarettes-among-young-people-in-great-britain

This contains serious amounts of bobbins about diacetyl ('popcorn lung'), lipoid pneumonia (a made up 'potential risk' by someone who thought vapes were oil based), that formaldehyde study where they fired a CE4 at 10 watts (creating a badly burnt coil that no vaper could tolerate) and worst of all, EVALI (nothing to do with nicotine vaping)

It's practically the whole bingo card in one article.

That’s a bit harsh. But at least you’re not making up bollocks about health risks.

Other valid objections to absurd, showy or brainless behaviour are to persistent water sippers, people who play music in public (including loudly from cars), take-away coffee graspers and gulpers, and performative parents.

But I reserve a special dislike for bossy and self-important people who impose on others. Particularly when they tell porkies to try to get their way.

I’m most highly allergic to cinnamates. These are very difficult to avoid in food, drugs, personal products, and just trying to leave the house. It’s a constant battle and trying new food can be terrifying because labeling laws are wholly inadequate for esoteric allergies.

while most people might relish the idea of walking past a bakery pulling out fresh cinnamon rolls, I dread such an experience because it can make my lips swell up and my throat get tight. Continuing to stand there would not be an option.

It's the adult version of a baby's dummy. Same level of intelligence required too.

It's utterly gross. I actually would prefer cigarette smoke to vape fumes.

Screenshots of google AI slop? Really?

I suppose we'll have to get used to this kind of shite now. It makes the people who provide wiki as a reference look intelligent.

Well you carry on vaping then ……

meanwhile the long term effects on addiction in your people, the stress of the issues on the NHS and by then the other things that come to light will bugger all the vapers.

the only thing safe for your lungs is normal unpolluted air! Shoving anything else round it isn’t.

You own link says In 2022, UK experts reviewed the international evidence and found that "in the short and medium-term, vaping poses a small fraction of the risks of smoking".

what about the long term effects?

a current science paper conclusion on the benefits of using vapes to try to stop smoking….

In conclusion, while vaping may be less harmful initially than smoking. Long-term use can lead to nicotine addiction, respiratory problems, cardiovascular issues, and potentially other health complications. More research is needed to fully understand the long-term effects of vaping, but the current evidence suggests that it is not a safe alternative to quitting smoking…….

It’s been over 20 years now. There were vaping threads on here in 2013, vapes have been about for more than 2 decades

Honestly not seen anyone vape. I'm in the Midlands. Have I missed it

Oh right, now we’ve moved to concern for children. Goalposts ➡️

Just tell your kids not to vape. That’s what I do.

You are ignorant the BMJ and all the studies show that the effects of bystanders and people vaping WILL NOT be fully knows until 2050. It’s a new thing. Any side effects won’t be now it will be 5-10 years plus down the line. It’s a health crisis for those kids that will loom over our heads in a few decades.

@SilenceOfTheTimTams maybe 5 out of a 100 of the local 16-18 year old smoked 10 years ago on a consistent daily basis, now about 95% vape and they aren’t just vaping once a day it’s constant. They are hooked. A survey in our primary showed 25 % of year 6 had vaped (no smokers) by year 9 this figure was 95%. They think it is healthy, cool and relaxing.

When smoking gets banned or smoking numbers decline - & don’t forget everyone that dies is no longer paying for cigarettes etc they need more muppets and a new thing to sell. Like ‘lite’ or menthol. Companies need new idiots to buy stuff.

Quite apart from your rudeness, you’re also wrong.

Objections to vaping on this thread have been about harm to people around vapers. There’s no evidence for that. Here’s the NHS advice, which not only confirms no known passive risk, but also suggests very limited risk to vapers themselves:

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/ready-to-quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/

@SilenceOfTheTimTams you are just ignorant www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5275

Smoking is proven toxic and harmful. It’s a terrible killer. The comparison to vaping is bogus - in that way most obviously, but in all others too.

And since vaping is - according to the NHS - a very powerful anti-smoking aid, I’d have thought sensible people would look more tolerably on it.

anything that quotes diacetyl needs throwing in the bin
a cigarette has it in but
it’s been banned in vape flavours in the UK for about ten years