To this is absolutely insane! Universal Credit Sanction

Re-read OP's opening post. She told us "She (her DD) missed a UC appointment in June", but she doesn't tell us the exact date. She also told us "According to the letter she has been sanctioned for 30 days for a first offence of missing one appointment after 6 months ..." and "She has an appointment later today." Today is 23rd July, so it seems to me that her DD left it a very long time before contacting the DWP to explain why she was a no-show for her appt in June and reschedule it for today and this is why the sanction is for 30 days. Had OP's DD contacted the DWP promptly, the sanction wouldn't be this long.

It’s not correct that you have no rights within the first two years of employment.
https://www.springhouselaw.com/knowledge-hub/employment-contracts-and-staff-handbooks/when-do-employment-rights-start-r

Welcome to modern Britain

I am not criticising your daughter as im sure we would all love to call our managers rude when they are being rude.

Just in this era when jobs are scarce, you need to have self preservation too.

OP has she had any support or counselling following the knife incident and the sexual assault? If she's sleeping that much and isn't able to attend a UC appointment when her time is free, is she really fit to work at this point? Maybe she should apply for fewer jobs and seek MH support otherwise she might find a job and not be able to sustain it. She's been through two traumatic incidents in a short space of time and then been fired. It's no surprise her MH is on the floor.

Missing the appt and getting sanctioned will help her see that sleeping for up to 16 hours a day is not helpful
saying her mental health is shot means that it is even more important that she gets into a good routine -
how else is her mental health going to improve ? There is no magic wand,
she needs to get up,
self care
get to the appointments
get some daylight
eat decent
sleep hygiene
etc

dont enable helpless behaviour
many young adults struggle to get employment in something they enjoy -
need to be able to weather this stage of life

Of course he shouldn’t be saying those things, 100% agree.

It was a glimpse into what her daughter could expect in that workplace, so she’s probably better off out of it. But biding her time, looking for a new job whilst employed and leaving quietly and with a reference would’ve been far better than having 7 quid in your bank.

It doesn’t make what the MD said acceptable, but I think when you rely on the person to employ you, you need to know when to be quiet.

@ThisIsInsane did your DD report it to the transport police

Ive hears this before but isnt It strange that you have no rights at all within the first two years of the job, then after two years, you magically get rights.

I'm glad people are saying that as I'm currently job hunting and there's no way I could apply for that many jobs, there's not that many available that I could actually do.

She had one job, turn up to an appointment. That's it. If she needed the money badly enough then she wouldn't dream of missing that appointment.

As for her mother tagging along to give the employees a telling off, they'll either tell you it's none of your business or just laugh about it when you leave. What do you actually intend to achieve?

None of this paints your daughter as a good job candidate.

You have almost no rights within the first two years in a job. And employment cases are stressful AF in themselves, nothing more likely to help her spiral, especially as it wasn't even her battle she stepped into. Much better to spend her energy on positive steps forward and forget about that particular fuck up.

Well, if it isn't the consequence of her own actions! Sanctions aren't a secret that are sprung on unexpecting claimants. It is clear that if you cannot attend an appointment, you need to notify the Jobcentre in advance. It's also clear that if you miss an appointment, you need to provide a good reason and rebook the appointment as soon as possible. If you don't, you will be sanctioned. If she's been sanctioned for 30 days, of which 7 days is the fixed period, that means it took 23 days for her to bother to rearrange the appointment she missed. You can complain all you like, but it won't be reconsidered unless she has a good reason for missing it (which it doesn't sound like she does).

Yes i agree.

But in the long run, maybe she will get something better.

I wonder would she have a case for unfair dismissal?
Then she could sue for loss of future earnings

This,

Applying for over 1500 jobs shows must will not be tailor made but pretty generic. Employers will spot this a mile away

Agree he's a prick but she's patently not better off depressed in bed for months on end. Always easier to get another job when you're already in one.

She’s doing 50 job applications a week- I don’t think people think she’s not trying hard enough to get a job. I haven’t seen anyone say that being sexually assaulted doesn’t matter. OP didn’t mention it in her first post which is possible why not everyone has mentioned it in their replies as opposed to just ‘glossing over it’

Also MN: use your brains and exercise judgement because context is all.

Has she requested a mandatory reconsideration of the sanction?

The md of that company sounds like a prick so maybe she is better off out there anyway.

No i wouldnt But equally managers should not be making rude comments about someones weight. OPS DD could have been an undercover journalist from Dispatches doing an expose on sexism at work for all he knew

Most civilised western nations have a base income for people that have become unemployed.

A swedish woman told me that in sweden, if you lose your job, you are guaranteed 80 percent of your previous income from the government while you look for a new job

Being at work is a "good reason" under the DWP's rule for not attending and the claimant would only be sanctioned if they didn't contact the DWP to explain why they can't attend and rearrange (this would only be for claimants who don't work full-time). I don't believe the DWP is calling full-time workers in for an appt with a work coach as that would be pointless.

This may help

www.gold.ac.uk/careers/using-ai-for-your-job-search/

Back in the real world…would you call out the MD of the company you work for a matter of hours into your employment for something similar?

You’ll tell me you would, of course, but anyone with any foresight wouldn’t do it in the manner that the OPs daughter did because obviously she was going to lose her job soon after. And obviously there would be no reference for a new employer. Anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn’t do what she done.