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Saying no to my children having experiences without us?

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MancLass76 · 23/07/2025 12:03

I have 2 children aged 11 and 7 and my sister in law keeps asking if they can do things with them. On one hand it’s great she wants to spend time with them (my brother will be involved as well, she’s just the organiser), they have a great relationship and I really want to encourage that but on the other hand, she puts me in a difficult position of sometimes wanting/deciding to say no and then getting grief if I do and being made to feel really selfish (which I get I am being to some degree).

They are childless through choice but also have higher incomes so often their suggestions are out of reach for us (or something we need to plan for) and they are suggesting experiences for my kids that I don’t want to not be there for. Top end think safari lodges in the UK at £1000 for one night, first trip to London and a show in the West End kind of things but then smaller trips such as first visit to a particular zoo (which has been a family fave through 2 generations of our family).

Am I being unreasonable though to deny my kids these experiences if it means it won’t ever happen.

I also get grief if I ask to be included/tag along on the cheaper things so I can see my kids enjoying the experience they have planned. They bought a virgin experience involving cars for my daughter at Christmas and I asked to go watch and they are now being awkward with the date to make it work.

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latetothefisting · 23/07/2025 15:37

I know the majority are disagreeing with OP but I'm honestly shocked that there are a fair number agreeing with her - parents who think it's fine to deny their kids opportunities just because they aren't invited, and who genuinely think their kids should be happy and grateful "playing in the park everyday" with their parents rather than having fun/educational/enriching experiences.

Given childfree people are usually stereotyped as being selfish it is a bit ironic!

Alltheyellowbirds · 23/07/2025 15:36

GentleIron · 23/07/2025 15:34

What an amazing gift that your DC are being given the opportunity to have some wonderful experiences. Experiences build rounded individuals; everything we encounter deepens our understanding of the world, the people therein and, crucially, ourselves. I would love for my DC to have experiences which I am not able to grant them, whether for financial or logistical reasons, so as to facilitate their growth and development into becoming something which transcends and extends outside of what I'm able to offer them. I want my DC to outgrow me, not bind them to me by curtailing their range of experiences to the narrow confines of what I am capable of providing.

Beautifully put x

R0ckandHardPlace · 23/07/2025 15:34

Surely if the zoo trip was important to you, you’d have done it by now? The DCs are 7 and 9. If it’s one of those things that you keep putting off then I’d let your SIL take them.

Alltheyellowbirds · 23/07/2025 15:34

ARichtGoodDram · 23/07/2025 15:30

No I mean, if you become estranged from your children when they are older but they still.keep.in touch with aunty's and uncle.

So if you become estranged from your children you'd rather they had no contact with anyone at all?

That is bizarre.

There a disturbing number of people on this thread who seem to put their own needs/insecurities above their children’s.

GentleIron · 23/07/2025 15:34

What an amazing gift that your DC are being given the opportunity to have some wonderful experiences. Experiences build rounded individuals; everything we encounter deepens our understanding of the world, the people therein and, crucially, ourselves. I would love for my DC to have experiences which I am not able to grant them, whether for financial or logistical reasons, so as to facilitate their growth and development into becoming something which transcends and extends outside of what I'm able to offer them. I want my DC to outgrow me, not bind them to me by curtailing their range of experiences to the narrow confines of what I am capable of providing.

ARichtGoodDram · 23/07/2025 15:30

No I mean, if you become estranged from your children when they are older but they still.keep.in touch with aunty's and uncle.

So if you become estranged from your children you'd rather they had no contact with anyone at all?

That is bizarre.

whistlesandbells · 23/07/2025 15:30

Local zoo trip YANBU. Trips and experiences you cannot give your children and take from them YABU. Not sure why you focussed negativity on SIL rather than your brother.

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:28

And any inheritance my siblings want to throw my dcs way will gladly be accepted.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 23/07/2025 15:27

trivi · 23/07/2025 15:22

And some posters could have done with being taught a bit of compassion

Says the one resorting to insults 🤣🤣

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:27

No they can spend time with my children, as a family, which includes me. They don’t get to borrow

You would never let your siblings spend time with your dc without you being there? Wild!

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 23/07/2025 15:25

PassingStranger · 23/07/2025 15:07

It's not just taking them on an occassional.outing though is it.

It seems more than that, what when the expensive holidays start coming too or we can pay for you to go to university.

When does it stop.
It's not being selfish it's being savvy as to what could happen in the future, or where it might lead.

Loads of children have survived without loads of expensive trips from siblings.

I better go and tell my aunt (who can no longer afford the things she used to do with us) she owes me some expensive holidays (I've always wanted to go to Disney...) and for the back payment on my university fees 🤣

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:23

And some posters could have done with being taught a bit of compassion

Where is your compassion for numptys?

#numptysneedlovetoo

trivi · 23/07/2025 15:22

I never said you did

Cakeandusername · 23/07/2025 15:22

My friend’s eldest daughter had a childfree godmother. Over the years godmother would take girl to theatre shows (shared interest) and was always interested in her life. She gifted her a significant sum as a house deposit (had saved since she was a baby for her). My friend was grateful for their relationship and blown away by the generosity.
If I take my guides away I’m in loco parentis. I enjoy seeing them happy and experiencing new things (one of reasons I volunteer). I take lots of photos and will tell parents how well they have behaved etc. It would be no different me taking a niece.

KarmenPQZ · 23/07/2025 15:22

OMG so you let your kids miss out because you don’t want to miss out yourself. Yes it’s incredibly selfish.

I recently stayed at home whilst my kids went camping for a week with my partner. We take a week off all together as a family but then my partner and I take a week off separately to share the holiday childcare. I massively felt I missed out staying at home working but why should I ‘not allow’ it when then results in my kids missing out

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:22

Yes like replying to numptys on mumsnet

🤣🤣🤣

trivi · 23/07/2025 15:22

And some posters could have done with being taught a bit of compassion

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:21

Overnight safari stays are not the mainstay of being a good aunt and uncle

I never said it did

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:20

Some posters on here could have done with auntie input!

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:19

@UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld my aunt was really good at helping me see things rationally.

Goldbar · 23/07/2025 15:19

Comedycook · 23/07/2025 15:13

Awww don't you want to make memories with your DC every single moment of the day?!

Please don't joke about this 😆. For many of us who were wfh with toddlers during Covid, the phrase "making memories" is genuinely triggering.

Criteria16 · 23/07/2025 15:19

PassingStranger · 23/07/2025 14:48

I'd be wary, sounds like they are trying to take over.

Next it will be expensive holidays, schools, whatever. You'll be seen as the boring parent.
If you fall out with your children they will go to their aunt and uncle.

They are your children don't feel pressurized.

Possible....but very dystopian!!!

I had a childless uncle and aunt with considerable more money than my parents and grandparents. They used to take out my brother and me and/or buy us nice things several times a year and that has gone on for all our lives until they passed. I have fond memories of the times spent together, the experiences we had, how happy I was to be taken out and treated to toys/sweets I was overwise denied. They not only had more money to take us places, but they gave us their time, their full attention. It was lovely to feel spoiled and loved so deeply.

This said, our parents were also amazing and loved us very much, in a standard parenting way! We were and are a happy family. But there was and is no comparison in roles. The uncle/aunt never 'took over', our parents remained our parents. The uncle/aunt were just enriching our lives as we did theirs, just extended family love. We stayed very close till they passed, and so were our parents.
We never ever considered choosing them over our parents only because they were buying us nice things! Honestly... if you even consider this as a possibility there are way bigger issues than this to discuss....

trivi · 23/07/2025 15:19

Yes like replying to numptys on mumsnet

trivi · 23/07/2025 15:19

Overnight safari stays are not the mainstay of being a good aunt and uncle

waveywave · 23/07/2025 15:18

There’s enough naughty spoilt children in this world and I won’t let mine be one of them

I think you have other things to worry about..,

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