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To think banning this ad is outrageous?

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JadeyLauraPie · 23/07/2025 10:58

As a society are we so emotionally fragile and immature now that we can't handle seeing someone thin without going off the rails and being at risk of making unhealthy choices to aspire to fashion? There's jabs everywhere for God's sake and somehow m&s are being taken to task about this : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/07/23/ms-advert-banned-for-featuring-unhealthily-thin-model/ why are we all treated as though we can't think for ourselves and make decisions that are right for us? I also strongly resent the notion that people who are thin are unhealthy. I don't even think anyone in the public cares? It's just such a non issue.. I wouldn't call the model unhealthy either, I'm Slavic and by our standards that's a pretty normal physique. I'm so fed up with how molly coddled we have become. Aibu?

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NCembarassed · 23/07/2025 17:59

To me, it looks as if the picture has been poorly edited.

You have a very beautiful young woman, who's lower half looks disproportionate to the top half, in a way that does not look natural. I believe this is down to editing, rather than the model.

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 23/07/2025 17:29

I also strongly resent the notion that people who are thin are unhealthy.

You're frothing about something you've made up.

Ooodelally · 23/07/2025 17:27

You can’t have morbidly obese models and call it ‘body positivity’ and then ban slim models! Many, many girls are slim why do they deserve less recognition/representation than any other body type.

Zov · 23/07/2025 17:27

LookingAtMyBhunas · 23/07/2025 12:52

She looks anorexic tbf.

This. ^ They were right to ban it.

YABU @JadeyLauraPie

PigletSanders · 23/07/2025 17:22

Err, I don’t think she’s even that thin! She’s just little. She’s a similar build to me. I have a slight frame and ‘athletic’ build (no boobs, not much force to my hips), but I’ve been pregnant three times, and just happen exercise a lot and eat a shit load. Not remotely unhealthy.

Snorlaxo · 23/07/2025 14:30

I agree that it shouldn’t have been banned. It’s an odd angle where it look like it could be a combo of 2 models tbh
As a consumer, I would like clarity on digital touch ups and if I was the same size as the model then I would want to see if there were safety pins and clips making the clothes fit better.

TeenagersAngst · 23/07/2025 13:46

I think it would be better for the same clothes to be modelled by different sized women, I think I've seen that on other clothing websites. Not only does this help more customers with different body types decide how the product might look on them, it detracts from 'thin is good'.

vivainsomnia · 23/07/2025 13:39

Olympic runners aren’t posed in a way that accentuates their physique nor held up as a beauty standard
That's not the point. The point is that you CAN be healthy looking very thin as well as slightly fat.

If we want to focus on role models and ban very thin looking women, then we should ban those that look fat. I don't want the young generation to think that fat is good, especially when we have a struggling NHS and the biggest cost to it is obesity.

Either we accept that one can be healthy whatever their size, or we only feature slim people.

BoredZelda · 23/07/2025 13:36

Itiswhysofew · 23/07/2025 13:31

YANBU. It shouldn't be banned.

I saw her recently and her slimness didn't even occur to me, and I'm not slim. Wish I was. I think she's still on their website?

There are lots of petite women. There are many Japanese people living in the area where I'm from and there are a lot of slim & small framed people amongst them.

Yep. There are plenty of photos of her which haven’t been banned. Posed differently, and within the ASA guidelines.

SusanChurchouse · 23/07/2025 13:36

Reading the ASA judgement, it seems to be about how the pose and the camera angles portray the model rather than her inherent thinness. She looks nothing like the heroin chic models of the nineties who looked genuinely ill rather than just thin.

XXLfiles · 23/07/2025 13:35

Nchangeo · 23/07/2025 13:33

This. You either ban them all or none imo.

BMI testing perhaps. Only allowed in the healthy range

I think that would be well reasonable.
Neither extreme is healthy, it's just that one kills faster than the other generally imho.

Edit to add iirc fashion weeks have minimum bmi for decade now. Can't find if they have max

KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2025 13:34

If people didn't respond to adverts, they wouldn't be made. So the whole premise of your post, that people can make their own decisions, is flawed. People are manipulated by what they see. So there needs to be some responsibility taken that the ads they see are appropriate

Nchangeo · 23/07/2025 13:33

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/07/2025 13:00

YANBU. Until they start banning adverts that give the “impression” a model “might be unhealthily fat” I don’t see why thin models are banned tbh. Lots of ads feature plus size models - if we’re just looking at bodies and making a guess at whether we thinking they’re unhealthy, why not ban those as well.

(I’m not saying all plus size models are unhealthy, but I assume no one is saying all thin models are unhealthy either.)

This. You either ban them all or none imo.

BMI testing perhaps. Only allowed in the healthy range

Itiswhysofew · 23/07/2025 13:31

YANBU. It shouldn't be banned.

I saw her recently and her slimness didn't even occur to me, and I'm not slim. Wish I was. I think she's still on their website?

There are lots of petite women. There are many Japanese people living in the area where I'm from and there are a lot of slim & small framed people amongst them.

WhereIsMyJumper · 23/07/2025 13:29

Meadowfinch · 23/07/2025 12:56

Not everyone will. I'm munching through a pork pie as I type. 😃

But that image could easily be damaging to those predisposed to an eating disorder. And it really isn't hard to find an averagely slim model to show the trousers.

Mmmm I love a pork pie!

I have a friend who has anorexia. She’s had it most of her adult life. We’ve spoken in depth about it and, from her perspective, it’s an incredibly complex disorder that has a lot more to it than simply wanting to be thin. She knows she is underweight, but she can’t help but restrict her eating. For her, it’s a form of control.

Young girls who are vulnerable to this sort of thing can unfortunately easily access images of very underweight women if they so choose. The argument for banning this ad, therefore, does not hold up to scrutiny.

Very low self esteem is at the root of eating disorders. The best thing we can do for young girls in this regard is to keep them off social media until they’re mature enough.

IkaBaar · 23/07/2025 13:28

I think it’s more about how that photo makes her look weirdly proportioned. From one picture it is hard to assess if she is a healthy weight. On balance they were probably right to ban this one.

aniloD · 23/07/2025 13:26

She may be very slim but she's also fucking gorgeous. Her face does not look overly slim (haggard) which suggests that her figure is not from starving herself

BoredZelda · 23/07/2025 13:21

MyUmberSeal · 23/07/2025 13:15

I was born in 84 so very much was ‘around’ in the 90’s, but alas, me and my friends managed to get through it without crumbling into a pitiful pile on the floor every time we opened a magazine or saw adverts with celebrities and models who were thinner then us, fancy that.

Ooh look, another one who thinks they are the main character.

eyespartyparty · 23/07/2025 13:16

As a mother of a pre teen daughter who is hovering on the edge of an eating disorder, I’m pleased ads like this are banned.

IsadoraQuagmire · 23/07/2025 13:16

She looks normal sized to me.

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/07/2025 13:16

She doesn’t look anorexic at all. Slim and fine with it imo. No idea why they banned this.

MyUmberSeal · 23/07/2025 13:15

BoredZelda · 23/07/2025 13:09

These advertising standards were brought in for a reason. A decade ago (and more) the way models were used perpetuated an “ideal” which was unattainable for most women, and teenage girls in particular were overly influence by them. Anyone who thinks the rules are ridiculous clearly wasn’t around in the 90s and 00s where anyone over a size 6 was considered fat and the “lollipop” model (so thin their head was hugely disproportionate to their body) was very much en vogue. You can talk about molly coddling and ridicule the standards if you like, clearly you aren’t the one those rules were brought in to protect.

There is no rule about using thin models, but it is the way this model is posed, accentuating collar bones and thin legs etc, that has seen it fall foul of the advertising. The ridiculous thing is, photographers and advertisers know the rules, they flout them for clicks.

I was born in 84 so very much was ‘around’ in the 90’s, but alas, me and my friends managed to get through it without crumbling into a pitiful pile on the floor every time we opened a magazine or saw adverts with celebrities and models who were thinner then us, fancy that.

BoredZelda · 23/07/2025 13:12

vivainsomnia · 23/07/2025 13:04

She looks anorexic tbf
Only because normality is now overweight.

She doesn't look anorexic at all. She looks like a thin, small bone beautiful person.

She looks no different to some Olympic runners who are perfectly healthy.

Women can be small bones and very healthy as they can be bigger bone and healthy.

It is so sad that with now a population that is more overweight than not, we think it's ok to discriminate the thin ones on look only. Shame!

Olympic runners aren’t posed in a way that accentuates their physique nor held up as a beauty standard.

BoredZelda · 23/07/2025 13:09

These advertising standards were brought in for a reason. A decade ago (and more) the way models were used perpetuated an “ideal” which was unattainable for most women, and teenage girls in particular were overly influence by them. Anyone who thinks the rules are ridiculous clearly wasn’t around in the 90s and 00s where anyone over a size 6 was considered fat and the “lollipop” model (so thin their head was hugely disproportionate to their body) was very much en vogue. You can talk about molly coddling and ridicule the standards if you like, clearly you aren’t the one those rules were brought in to protect.

There is no rule about using thin models, but it is the way this model is posed, accentuating collar bones and thin legs etc, that has seen it fall foul of the advertising. The ridiculous thing is, photographers and advertisers know the rules, they flout them for clicks.

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