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Nursery asking for extra fees for 15 hours funded

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Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 10:09

Good morning everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me?
My son is entitled to 15 hours funded care and is due to start in September. We have had a fair few visits and all fine until yesterday on his last visit before starting in September they told me that there is a £100 registration fee for tapestry and uniform etc I asked if this is compulsory as I'm not too bothered about uniform and I noticed other children without uniforms she advised me it was, is this correct? I don't want to come across as entitled I'm so grateful for the 15 hours he gets but I just know I'm struggling already and will not have the £100 fee so if this is right I'll not be able to send him.

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TheMoonIsWensleydale · 23/07/2025 13:51

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 13:22

I can’t possibly imagine why they wouldn’t want to choose the parent who can only use the free hours, and is already kicking off about having to pay a penny extra and threatening reporting to the council vs a parent actually willing to contribute towards and support the nursery who will be caring for their child, while paying for the additional extras or extra days which make it financially viable for the nursery to operate profitably.

Cant imagine at all.

completely agree.

Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 13:40

TiredMummma · 23/07/2025 13:25

Honestly this sounds absolutely crazy to me. You seem to have a very good deal (free hours with no extra costs). Yes nurseries are not allowed to offer top up fees, but they can put conditions on the access to 15 hours as they are completely oversubscribed. I am surprised you are getting away with only £100. It’s terrible the nursery wasn’t upfront, and feed that back, but you will still have to pay it but mostly likely you’ll make it until next pay day before they chase you?

I'm not questioning if it's a good deal though I'm just asking If the information I was given was correct. The 15 hours funded nursery hours are brilliant but not so brilliant if you can't afford to access them.

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Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 13:37

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 13:22

I can’t possibly imagine why they wouldn’t want to choose the parent who can only use the free hours, and is already kicking off about having to pay a penny extra and threatening reporting to the council vs a parent actually willing to contribute towards and support the nursery who will be caring for their child, while paying for the additional extras or extra days which make it financially viable for the nursery to operate profitably.

Cant imagine at all.

I'm not kicking off or reporting them to anyone! I understand why they ask for these fees but I don't have an extra £100 and I'm clearly not the only one in this position if the government are making fees optional. I'm selling things on Vinted to try n stay afloat clearly you can't imagine how bad the cost of living crisis is affecting most people 🤷

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TiredMummma · 23/07/2025 13:25

Honestly this sounds absolutely crazy to me. You seem to have a very good deal (free hours with no extra costs). Yes nurseries are not allowed to offer top up fees, but they can put conditions on the access to 15 hours as they are completely oversubscribed. I am surprised you are getting away with only £100. It’s terrible the nursery wasn’t upfront, and feed that back, but you will still have to pay it but mostly likely you’ll make it until next pay day before they chase you?

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 13:22

Londonrach1 · 23/07/2025 12:45

Nurseries have waiting lists and if there's a choice between a child who's parents pay the extra or not who they going to choose. So many nurseries are closing as they can't afford to run on funded hours. There's a severe lack of nurseries in my area and unless you put your childs name down at birth you don't get a place unless you are lucky and someone has moved away.

I can’t possibly imagine why they wouldn’t want to choose the parent who can only use the free hours, and is already kicking off about having to pay a penny extra and threatening reporting to the council vs a parent actually willing to contribute towards and support the nursery who will be caring for their child, while paying for the additional extras or extra days which make it financially viable for the nursery to operate profitably.

Cant imagine at all.

mummyh2016 · 23/07/2025 13:13

Londonrach1 · 23/07/2025 12:45

Nurseries have waiting lists and if there's a choice between a child who's parents pay the extra or not who they going to choose. So many nurseries are closing as they can't afford to run on funded hours. There's a severe lack of nurseries in my area and unless you put your childs name down at birth you don't get a place unless you are lucky and someone has moved away.

This. You’ve said yourself other nurseries are full.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 23/07/2025 13:07

@TwoFeralKids its unfortunate but private nurseries don't have to accept funding at all if they don't want to - its optional

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 13:03

Fupoffyagrasshole · 23/07/2025 12:53

yes agree!! I do admissions for a nursery too in the office - we tend to offer the places to the non funded children instead of funded children because we make more money that way! the funded hours is a ball ache - we have to put in the application and we have to itemise all the invoices -way less admin without it

and we have the choice - our list is so long

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I understand it from a business point of view but isn't that discrimination? We don't want children of poor parents here etc.

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 13:02

Hodgemollar · 23/07/2025 12:46

Nonsense, 4-6 weeks of fees is totally standard for private nursery deposits.

Two kids. Both private nursery and never been asked for that much.

NotMeekNotObedient · 23/07/2025 12:55

Normal here.

£150 registration fee - this holds the place but apparently also pays for the app, a bib ect.

We have hourly top of fees for each free hour used too. But the nursery to do a lot - external providers in for ballet, baby signing, music classes, ball sports etc.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 23/07/2025 12:53

Londonrach1 · 23/07/2025 12:45

Nurseries have waiting lists and if there's a choice between a child who's parents pay the extra or not who they going to choose. So many nurseries are closing as they can't afford to run on funded hours. There's a severe lack of nurseries in my area and unless you put your childs name down at birth you don't get a place unless you are lucky and someone has moved away.

yes agree!! I do admissions for a nursery too in the office - we tend to offer the places to the non funded children instead of funded children because we make more money that way! the funded hours is a ball ache - we have to put in the application and we have to itemise all the invoices -way less admin without it

and we have the choice - our list is so long

Petrie999 · 23/07/2025 12:52

We paid a registration fee to secure the place, it wasn't specified what this was for but we assumed as there is a waiting list and it was a deposit of sorts. All of my friends have paid similar. We are all in private nurseries not attached to schools. They also charge top up fees for meals and consumables, I'm unsure what the position is on these being optional as no one seems to opt out. This is £12 per full day for us, whereas if we paid the £68 full fee these things would be included.

Our fees have been put up by 10% in April and another % in September, to cover for the fact that as now pretty much all children are using the funded places, it's not as much money coming in as when people pay the daily full fee, so they have to offset it somehow. It has meant for us that the extra 15hrs is barely saving us anything, what with the top up fees and increase x2.

Hodgemollar · 23/07/2025 12:46

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:10

You got fleeced. Never paid more than £25/50 for private preschool deposits.

Nonsense, 4-6 weeks of fees is totally standard for private nursery deposits.

Londonrach1 · 23/07/2025 12:45

Nurseries have waiting lists and if there's a choice between a child who's parents pay the extra or not who they going to choose. So many nurseries are closing as they can't afford to run on funded hours. There's a severe lack of nurseries in my area and unless you put your childs name down at birth you don't get a place unless you are lucky and someone has moved away.

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 12:36

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:10

You got fleeced. Never paid more than £25/50 for private preschool deposits.

Nursery registration fees at ~£100 a piece (or more) all very normally locally (in a big city).

The deposit I agree seems outrageous, but it’s competitive to get a space and they’re all doing it so not really any choice.

I think the big deposits are to stop people securing a place at X date in the future, then deciding not to send their child, meaning the nursery lose out on a month of fees or more.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 23/07/2025 12:32

it has to be optional!

however in the nursery my daughter goes to not a single other child brings a packed lunch and there are all sorts of wonderful outings and teachers that come in to do activities - these need to be paid for! if i opted out the nursery experience would be crap and she'd be left out so I just pay it - ends up around 150 a month top up for the "free hours" 😑

also i only actually get 22 hours because my nursery is open all year and the funding paid 38 weeks - no option to go term time only

Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 12:32

fruitbrewhaha · 23/07/2025 12:11

For those stating the nursery is allowed to make these charges the legislation is here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/early-education-and-childcare--2/early-education-and-childcare-effective-from-1-april-2025

Section A1.32 onwards. It’s very clear.

Thank you for that, that's really helpful!

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TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:26

Cantcalloutanythinghere · 23/07/2025 12:23

My DDs school pre school sessions run 9 - 12 and 12.30 to 3.30. So if you book them in for a day you pay £2 per day for lunch time cover, and you send in a packed lunch. So £10 per week. They then ask for 'voluntary contributions' of £10 per half term for baking and forest school. If you do not pay these fees you recieve reminders. Plus 'voluntary contributions' to any school trips of around £25.00. I thought school would work out cheaper but when you then factor in the £2 for this charity day or that, the contributions asked for for this tombola and that it probably works out more expensive. I think because schools are struggling they charge much more now in extras than they did when my eldest went to pre school.

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The one my son is going to it is £4 a day. £1.50 for school lunch and £2.50 for lunchtime cover. There are morning, afternoon and all day sessions. Nothing else. I appreciate not all schools are like this.

Cantcalloutanythinghere · 23/07/2025 12:23

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:07

If he is three I would try a school nursery. Much cheaper.

My DDs school pre school sessions run 9 - 12 and 12.30 to 3.30. So if you book them in for a day you pay £2 per day for lunch time cover, and you send in a packed lunch. So £10 per week. They then ask for 'voluntary contributions' of £10 per half term for baking and forest school. If you do not pay these fees you recieve reminders. Plus 'voluntary contributions' to any school trips of around £25.00. I thought school would work out cheaper but when you then factor in the £2 for this charity day or that, the contributions asked for for this tombola and that it probably works out more expensive. I think because schools are struggling they charge much more now in extras than they did when my eldest went to pre school.

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:10

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 10:26

Registration fees are completely normal for private nurseries OP.

It covers the administration of onboarding a new pupil usually - plus in your case the cost of tapestry (which they use for tracking and sharing info on development) and some uniform.

I had to pay a £2,000 deposit and a £150 registration fee for each of my children. All very normal round here.

You got fleeced. Never paid more than £25/50 for private preschool deposits.

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:08

fruitbrewhaha · 23/07/2025 12:02

I think speak to them. Explain you have not been made aware of any charges until now. Is there anything that can be done? They are breaking the rules and while you understand why, it’s leaving you in a difficult position because you don’t have any spare money.

Is there a fund to cover these amounts for low income families? Is there any fund raising? Is this something that could be done and can you be involved in setting this up?

Do you qualify for UC? They can help.

TwoFeralKids · 23/07/2025 12:07

If he is three I would try a school nursery. Much cheaper.

Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 12:05

fruitbrewhaha · 23/07/2025 12:02

I think speak to them. Explain you have not been made aware of any charges until now. Is there anything that can be done? They are breaking the rules and while you understand why, it’s leaving you in a difficult position because you don’t have any spare money.

Is there a fund to cover these amounts for low income families? Is there any fund raising? Is this something that could be done and can you be involved in setting this up?

Yes I'll speak to them and see if anything be done, thank you.

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Teacup40 · 23/07/2025 12:03

MidnightPatrol · 23/07/2025 11:58

@fruitbrewhaha nurseries cannot charge additional fees as a condition of using the free hours - they can charge additional fees that are part of their usual pricing structure.

This means they can charge an administration fee, so long as it is to all pupils and not just to those who are claiming free hours.

They are well within their rights to charge the registration fee, so long as all parents are paying it. It is not against the law.

Most nurseries are private companies - you cannot expect them to operate in a way that isn’t profitable / incurs a loss.

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Yes to be fair to them they did say they charge everyone this fee so its not just because I'm using the funded hours. I dont expect or want them to run at a loss I just wish they had explained this in the beginning instead of springing it on me.

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