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Friend 'sobbing in the kitchen' over Ozzy Osborne

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lronWoman · 22/07/2025 22:08

I'm not generally a mean spirited person but I just can't take this seriously!

My friend has never been a Black Sabbath fan and I've never heard her mention Ozzy once in the 20 years I've known her. However, her and her sister are apparently 'beside themselves with grief' over his death.

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met. It's sad and I get that it kind of marks the end of an era, but the guy lived to a ripe old age in the lap of luxury and was one of the most celebrated rock stars the world has ever known. It's not like a present day star has suddenly been cut down in their prime and will no longer be releasing new albums. They'd already released all their famous stuff before we were born.

She wasn't sobbing in the kitchen when an old mutual workmate died unexpectedly in his late 30s a fortnight ago. Guy wasn't a close friend of ours but we were friendly. Used to go to the pub as a group and he helped us move house, refusing to accept a penny for it. Really nice bloke! We hadn't seen him in close to a decade but both felt sad about it for a few days. But no sobbing in the kitchen!

Latest comment is "he's up there at the bar with gramps". I'm finding it hard not to make an inappropriate joke tbh!

OP posts:
Didimum · 23/07/2025 11:20

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:05

I'd say there's a difference between shedding a tear in private and performative grief, though.

Well, MN is pretty obsessed with things being 'performative' to the extent it's just coming across as weird and intolerant of different people's personalities. Let people be.

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:18

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 11:14

Exactly. I reckon a lot of the same people commenting on the footballers death would not be so upset if it was the random bloke down the road who’d been speeding and killed himself.

But being a ‘celebrity’ seems to entitle you to be able to get away with poor behaviour choices.
As they used to say, live by the sword…

I find it quite sad that a newly married man with very young children felt that speeding in a super car was a risk he should take. Selfish, really.

Absolutely. That must make the grief process so much harder for his poor wife and kids when they find out one day.

His actions scream hubris.

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:17

Must admit I did chuckle earlier when my friend claimed she'd always liked Stairway to Heaven before quickly editing the message. 🤣

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lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:15

gannett · 23/07/2025 10:31

Yet again all I take from this is how much the OP dislikes her so-called "friend".

If you really think she's some sort of grief vulture who just wants to be the centre of attention, why are you friends with her in the first place?

If you're a real friend you'd be able to understand where she's coming from and what feelings might have been triggered, and make allowances even if she's behaving a bit OTT.

🤣

Tbf I knew it was inevitable the mumsnet classic "doesn't sound as if you like her very much" would make an appearance.

In answer to this and the other posts asking why I'm friends with her, the answer is that it's possible to be friends with somebody and still find them a drama queen in some instances. It'd be a lonely existence if I limited my friend group to those blessed individuals that are perfect in every way!

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Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 11:14

AuntMarch · 23/07/2025 11:10

I saw posts about how tragic it was from people who were commenting things like "fuck around and find out" when some teenagers died in an accident caused by the driver speeding locally. It is the double standard that is sickening - he was worth their grief only because he was good at football!

Exactly. I reckon a lot of the same people commenting on the footballers death would not be so upset if it was the random bloke down the road who’d been speeding and killed himself.

But being a ‘celebrity’ seems to entitle you to be able to get away with poor behaviour choices.
As they used to say, live by the sword…

I find it quite sad that a newly married man with very young children felt that speeding in a super car was a risk he should take. Selfish, really.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 11:10

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:06

Surely a joke.

Well, they've doubled down on it so probably best ignored.

Just another one who craves attention. At least your mate isn't openly deranged offensive about it.

AuntMarch · 23/07/2025 11:10

sweetpickle2 · 23/07/2025 09:26

I find this kind of attitude really strange. Because he was speeding his doesn't deserve grief? He was someone's husband, someone's father.

I've lost loved ones who died due to their own poor decisions, doesn't make it any less sad.

I saw posts about how tragic it was from people who were commenting things like "fuck around and find out" when some teenagers died in an accident caused by the driver speeding locally. It is the double standard that is sickening - he was worth their grief only because he was good at football!

CoastalCalm · 23/07/2025 11:08

Not a fan of his music but having lost my dad to Parkinson’s I genuinely felt sad about it too mainly for his family

FleaDog · 23/07/2025 11:08

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

Harry, is that you? 😂

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:06

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 11:00

Oh I will be having a street party lol

That's fucking awful.

lronWoman · 23/07/2025 11:06

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 10:47

That’s a bit of a strange thing to say @YourBrickTiger.

Surely a joke.

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gannett · 23/07/2025 11:06

BlankBlankBlank14 · 23/07/2025 10:33

Or she like me dislikes performative grief.

So why is she "friends" with someone she thinks does performative grief?!

PersephonePomegranate · 23/07/2025 11:05

Didimum · 23/07/2025 08:13

It’s unnecessary to look down on people for it. It’s not as though they are doing anything wrong or mean-spirited, they are just having an emotional reaction. Death opens up a lot of doors in people, and often celebrity deaths can signal what feels like the end of an era and a connection to something in your past. Crying over a lost work colleague isn’t all that strange, she could be thinking about his family for example and just find it terribly sad.
(And no, I’ve never cried over a celeb death myself).

I swear MN is just becoming a place full of bullies sometimes.

I'd say there's a difference between shedding a tear in private and performative grief, though.

BlueandPinkSwan · 23/07/2025 11:03

I ignore grief vampires and those that do performance sobbing such as OP describe.
"Oh, that celeb Joe Bloggs is dead."
" So what?" I really don't care I really don't.

PopeJoan2 · 23/07/2025 11:00

Pricelessadvice · 23/07/2025 09:29

If he’d been speeding and wiped out another car and killed a family aswell as himself, would he have been so deserving of everyone’s grief?

By speeding so recklessly, he was endangering other people, not just himself. Makes him pretty selfish in my eyes.

Didn’t his brother die too? If so he was effectively a victim of the footballer’s speeding.

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 11:00

Westfacing · 23/07/2025 10:57

That's a bit extreme! But that said, I doubt there will be much public sorrow.

Oh I will be having a street party lol

Dontfuckingsaycheese · 23/07/2025 11:00

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

Yep. When Diana died I had some really dark shit going down, but it channelled into grief for her, and I would never have said I was much of a fan.
Even now, the thought of her brings all that back.

Hollyhobbi · 23/07/2025 10:59

Forgot to say it wasn’t in public though. A friend at work admitted the same thing. She’s a few years younger than me but would also have listened to Sinead growing up.

Westfacing · 23/07/2025 10:57

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:23

Me too, although when Camilla goes I will be crying with joy.

That's a bit extreme! But that said, I doubt there will be much public sorrow.

Hollyhobbi · 23/07/2025 10:57

I cried when Sinead O’Connor died. But I literally grew up with her.

soiledblogg · 23/07/2025 10:56

Obviously sad for Ozzys loved ones , but I think we all knew that Ozzys time on earth was coming to an end , so not a great suprise . We are born, we live hopefully a long happy life , and then we die . The circle of life .

LakieLady · 23/07/2025 10:54

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met.

Same here. I was sad when David Bowie died, and shocked by John Lennon's death because he was murdered, but I really don't understand the sort of mass outpouring that celebrity deaths seem to lead to.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 10:53

YourBrickTiger · 23/07/2025 10:50

Not at all, it's my life, my feelings. Can't divulge more about it, but if I explained it would make sense.

Isn't that kind of related to the point OP made? Why make strange (and in this case, deeply unpleasant) statements at all if you're not prepared to elaborate on them?

In OP's case, her friend made a statement which might make sense if given a bit of context. Without the context, it looks like performative attention-seeking. Which your post did too, although much more unpleasant.

If I had feelings which I felt were justified but knew would make me sound horrible deranged without providing additional context, I would try to avoid expressing them publicly, unless I was really desperate for attention.

MaloryJones · 23/07/2025 10:53

RattyMcBatty · 22/07/2025 22:23

It's not necessarily grief for the person, but for a chapter of your life that feels like it's gone with them I think. People cried when Elvis Presley died because he and his music had given them something in their lives with which to identify I suppose.

Absolutely

I was 12 in 1977 and staying at my Elvis fan Aunt in Croydon .
All was fine with Her and then she walked to the shop to buy her daily papers and came back in pieces .
It certainly affected Her but she did not dwell on it. Probably the shock of it.
I was pretty shocked (and deeply saddened) at the death of Robin Williams so I kind of get it .

YouHaveAnArse · 23/07/2025 10:53

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

This is it. A celebrity I like died recently and I was incredibly sad - not just because of the circumstances around it but because it made me think about other losses in my life; also how sad it is that a dead person isn't able to see just how loved they were and how sad everyone is that they've gone, which brought up memories of dark points in my own life.

It's weird and seems performative to some when it's someone like Ozzy Osbourne who lived a full life, but feelings are weird.

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