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Should DH's job come ahead of mine because he earns more?

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OpalFruitsAreBetter · 22/07/2025 18:48

Both DH and I work full-time with two primary age DC.

DH is the main bread-winner by far - he earns over 3x my salary plus share options etc. It's a demanding and often stressful job, but he is something of a workaholic and he is chasing a promotion.

I recently took new role at a 50% pay cut due to burnout, general unhappiness with my job and the fact neither of us had enough time to devote to DC as we both worked way in excess of our contracted hours. My new job has a much better work-life balance but it's still full-time and I have a team to manage, deadlines to meet etc.

Part of the 'deal' with DH in me taking a lower-paid job was that I'd be able to pick up more of the day-to-day work of managing school pick ups, running the house etc. But I feel like DH has started treating it as if I don't have a job at all and arranges his schedule with little consideration of what my commitments are. For instance, I always have to try to fit my office days around his and never the other way round.

This is starting to cause tension but his trump card is always that we can live without my salary but we can't live without his. Which is true. And my workplace is much more understanding of the demands of being a working parent, which is also true.

So do I just accept that my work has to fit around his?

YABU - he's keeping the mortgage paid so his career comes first
YANBU - just because I'm paid less doesn't mean my job doesn't count

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GonkSocks · 24/07/2025 17:27

I think the problem isn't which job takes priority, it's really just about DH thinking he takes priority over you. I strongly suspect he could keep his job and fulfil his family duties if he really wanted to put in a little forward planning. The problem is that he knows you will pick up his slack and he doesn't respect you enough to make it his problem instead of yours. I don't know how to solve that problem.

Ddakji · 24/07/2025 17:24

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 17:18

I think it’s important to always keep in mind that we live in a patriarchal society. And no matter what, our needs will never be a priority. This is a society designed by men, for men, and as individuals we can either fight against that or give in and accept it. And that has to start in the home and in our own relationships with men.

Yes - and the workplace is the same workplace designed by and for men, and has been tinkered about with here and there once women joined the workforce, but never actually designed for our needs.

But within a private household you’d hope that the patriarchy wouldn’t hold sway by default. Though I daresay I’m being unrealistic!

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 17:18

Ddakji · 24/07/2025 17:09

I disagree that that’s inherently because he’s a man - though I agree that as a man he’s more likely to drop the domestic responsibility ball, though it’s not a given.

In this instance the woman (the OP) is also still a high earner at £60k.

Really, much of this is down to society not valuing motherhood, and thinking that equality for mothers means women behaving exactly like men. But a lot of women think this as well.

Sorry, that’s a bit rambling. Lots of thoughts bouncing around.

I think it’s important to always keep in mind that we live in a patriarchal society. And no matter what, our needs will never be a priority. This is a society designed by men, for men, and as individuals we can either fight against that or give in and accept it. And that has to start in the home and in our own relationships with men.

Ddakji · 24/07/2025 17:09

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 17:02

But it does mean that he gets to ignore her needs because society is telling him that he is more important than she is because he earns more than she does now.

He treated her more like an equal partner when their salaries were comparable but now that she is on a lower salary his treatment of her is already changing. Give it time and he will start doing less domestic labour, less childcare, being less thoughtful etc etc. Because society tells him more money means more important.

And their children pick up on that messaging and perpetuate the behaviour. So it carries on and on.

I disagree that that’s inherently because he’s a man - though I agree that as a man he’s more likely to drop the domestic responsibility ball, though it’s not a given.

In this instance the woman (the OP) is also still a high earner at £60k.

Really, much of this is down to society not valuing motherhood, and thinking that equality for mothers means women behaving exactly like men. But a lot of women think this as well.

Sorry, that’s a bit rambling. Lots of thoughts bouncing around.

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 17:02

Ddakji · 24/07/2025 16:46

The reality is that as someone earning 3x her salary, his wage is more important to their household than hers.

But - that doesn’t mean she isn’t important to her employer in exactly the same way that he is important to his. And she says one of the big things about her job is the flexibility it offers that her previous one doesn’t.

However, that doesn’t mean that he gets to ignore her contacted days in the office.

But it does mean that he gets to ignore her needs because society is telling him that he is more important than she is because he earns more than she does now.

He treated her more like an equal partner when their salaries were comparable but now that she is on a lower salary his treatment of her is already changing. Give it time and he will start doing less domestic labour, less childcare, being less thoughtful etc etc. Because society tells him more money means more important.

And their children pick up on that messaging and perpetuate the behaviour. So it carries on and on.

Robin67 · 24/07/2025 16:57

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 23/07/2025 08:32

This is the whole point of the thread really! He just expects me to flex because it's job top trumps. In summary the conversation went something like:

DH: "Ugh I've got to go into the office tomorrow"
Me: "Wait a minute...we just agreed on Monday that I'm going in tomorrow, remember we discussed you doing holiday club pick up?"
DH: "Oh, yeah..sigh...do you really need to go in tomorrow?"
Me: "Well I've told the team I'll be in, I'm supposed to be in."
DH: "Remind me again which of our jobs we can live without?"

He says that, but in Ldn, with more than one child, if you have expectations of a certain standard of living, then life is expensive.
You have already gone from a £250k to a £200 k household. Dropping another 50k is nothing to be sneered at. You won't be below the breadline on his salary, sure. But life is better and financially easier with both your incomes. He needs to remember that. Next time he says that, imply that you want to give up. I wonder what his reaction would be

MinnieMountain · 24/07/2025 16:52

YANBU.

DH and I have a similar salary discrepancy. The only diary clashes DH has affect his lunch break. If he’s needed for childcare (rare to be fair) or something at DS’s school he makes sure he keeps the time free.

Yes, if it was a genuinely important meeting you would have to be flexible but it sounds like your DH has slipped into you being the default parent.

Ddakji · 24/07/2025 16:46

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 16:34

I fully agree with this. It says something about our society when wage = importance to this degree.

And let’s not forget about the reams of research that make the point that salaries for professions that are typically more dominated by women are kept artificially lower than those dominated by men. Because patriarchy. And so we end up in this continuous cycle of seeing men as more important than women in every aspect of society.

The reality is that as someone earning 3x her salary, his wage is more important to their household than hers.

But - that doesn’t mean she isn’t important to her employer in exactly the same way that he is important to his. And she says one of the big things about her job is the flexibility it offers that her previous one doesn’t.

However, that doesn’t mean that he gets to ignore her contacted days in the office.

rookiemere · 24/07/2025 16:36

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 16:15

@rookiemere

Personally I would go for plan B and get a bit of contingency in place. The cost is worth it for a bit of flexibility and sorting out extra care for one day a week shouldn’t cost you £2k per month. Plus it will stop the arguments.

Genuine question, what does that actually look like in practice? Because I don't actually know what kind of provision that would be.

I don’t know what it looks like for you. I know for me I ended up asking a neighbour at one point because we were snowed in. Actually worked out marvellously as she ended up becoming a childminder for a number of years because of looking after DS.

I also did a lot of inviting for play dates at the weekends - DS was an only so it was good to have company for him - so I had favours to bank for the school holidays and was quite brazen about saying so.

It is hard when they are young and you’re working ( and then they grow up and you get to look after your demanding elderly parents sigh) but I just found it easier to focus on solutions rather than the inbuilt inequalities.

Xyloplane · 24/07/2025 16:34

CowboyFromHell · 24/07/2025 12:28

All those posters saying his job comes first because he earns more than OP - I wonder how you’d feel if your kids teacher was constantly off school because her banker husband had an important meeting to attend. Or your operation was cancelled as the specialist nurse was off work as her lawyer husband had to go into the office.

Of course salary is an important factor but it shouldn’t be something that trumps every other consideration, in every circumstance, all of the time.

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I fully agree with this. It says something about our society when wage = importance to this degree.

And let’s not forget about the reams of research that make the point that salaries for professions that are typically more dominated by women are kept artificially lower than those dominated by men. Because patriarchy. And so we end up in this continuous cycle of seeing men as more important than women in every aspect of society.

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 16:15

@rookiemere

Personally I would go for plan B and get a bit of contingency in place. The cost is worth it for a bit of flexibility and sorting out extra care for one day a week shouldn’t cost you £2k per month. Plus it will stop the arguments.

Genuine question, what does that actually look like in practice? Because I don't actually know what kind of provision that would be.

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OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 16:13

TonTonMacoute · 24/07/2025 14:38

If your DH needs to go in last minute he needs to go in.

It seems to me that you need extra backup in case this happens, rather than be complaining about your DHs attitude.

Define "need" - he isn't needed to examine a patient, hit something with a hammer or tinker in a server room.

His work is nearly all internal meetings and it generally appears to be a case of reluctance to shift a meeting online or ask for it to be rescheduled.

Lately some of these "emergencies" seem to have arisen because he's not blocked out his diary to allow for him arriving in the office in time for him to have done the school run so it's like "damn, Keith's put in a nine o clock, I need to get in for it". Totally avoidable.

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rookiemere · 24/07/2025 15:37

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 14:49

No I'm confident he is 100% behind it, but I think he's taken to assuming that the up-side of me being more available is that he has total liberty to set his own timetable. Because 9 times out of 10 that's fine, he seems to have fallen out of the habit of thinking at all about the 1 time out of 10 that it isn't.

Sounds like there might be some mixed messages going on. I have noticed with DH that if I give him an inch of goodwill he will take a mile. Not because he is a bad person but just because he is inherently a bit more selfish and makes assumptions in his favour.

With us it’s about our dog that only he wanted to get. I have had to make it clear to him over the years that if I do an extra walk say if he has an early meeting, he must ask me in advance so I actually have time to have breakfast before starting work and just because I do something once does not mean I am default person for this task.

Therefore I would suggest that you make your office day sacrosanct and do not change it unless for life threatening emergencies. Or plan B you both find some alternative care for that one day of the week so you don’t need to be flip flopping on what day you go in and you have concrete cover for the 1/10 occasion when there is a genuine clash.

Personally I would go for plan B and get a bit of contingency in place. The cost is worth it for a bit of flexibility and sorting out extra care for one day a week shouldn’t cost you £2k per month. Plus it will stop the arguments.

School holidays were always a pain because of holiday clubs with hours designed for those working at them, not for the working DPs paying for them.

I also think there’s something in there about you convincing yourself that your job is still valuable and important. Of course it is and £50k is a great salary and worth holding onto especially if you enjoy what you do.

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 14:49

Poppins21 · 24/07/2025 13:07

I do not think he was 100% behind you reducing your salary as much of what you stated is passive aggressive. Maybe he felt he had no choice to say it’s ok rather than meaning it.

No I'm confident he is 100% behind it, but I think he's taken to assuming that the up-side of me being more available is that he has total liberty to set his own timetable. Because 9 times out of 10 that's fine, he seems to have fallen out of the habit of thinking at all about the 1 time out of 10 that it isn't.

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TonTonMacoute · 24/07/2025 14:38

If your DH needs to go in last minute he needs to go in.

It seems to me that you need extra backup in case this happens, rather than be complaining about your DHs attitude.

Poppins21 · 24/07/2025 14:14

rookiemere · 24/07/2025 14:10

Have his last minute clashes only started since you took the reduced salary job ?

This is my thoughts- that it is passive aggressive. He may be feeling the pressure as the main breadwinner now or the demands to get the promotion so the household income goes back to where it was. Not many households can take a wage drop of £50k pre tax.

rookiemere · 24/07/2025 14:10

Have his last minute clashes only started since you took the reduced salary job ?

PurpleThistle7 · 24/07/2025 14:02

is he choosing to work extra and go in at the last minute or is that a basic expectation of the job he’s choosing to do? That’s the key issue here - is he opting out of family life or does he need to focus on his work?

I have a friend whose husband has a massively intense job that pays really well and has really high expectations on him. He cannot be relied upon at all so they have their whole life sorted out on the assumption he is not available, ever. So if your husband’s job is like this then that’s the starting point for working out what makes sense.

if he is choosing to socialise with friends or go to some time intense hobby etc that’s totally different.

if neither of your jobs can work with the childcare hours you’ve chosen something needs to change.

Poppins21 · 24/07/2025 13:07

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 13:04

I'm not a teacher or a nurse but I'm doing objectively Important Stuff (not to overstate it but...trying to save the planet!) and some of my meetings are quite high-stakes.

The other week when I had one of those high-stakes meetings (that had taken months of work to set up). I had flagged to DH well in advance that I was going to be out of the houses so school runs fell to him that day. And again, low and behold, DH ends up with a conflicting meeting at the last minute and it falls to me to call in a favour with neighbours to look after DC.

DH frequently works late or goes out after work without informing me whereas every time I need or want to do something which prevents me doing the school run I have to see if it fits in with DH and even after he agrees I can't rely on him upholding his end of the bargain because "something's come up".

Basically this shouldn't be a problem if DH just showed a bit of simple respect for the fact I still have a job and a life.

I do not think he was 100% behind you reducing your salary as much of what you stated is passive aggressive. Maybe he felt he had no choice to say it’s ok rather than meaning it.

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 13:04

CowboyFromHell · 24/07/2025 12:28

All those posters saying his job comes first because he earns more than OP - I wonder how you’d feel if your kids teacher was constantly off school because her banker husband had an important meeting to attend. Or your operation was cancelled as the specialist nurse was off work as her lawyer husband had to go into the office.

Of course salary is an important factor but it shouldn’t be something that trumps every other consideration, in every circumstance, all of the time.

Edited

I'm not a teacher or a nurse but I'm doing objectively Important Stuff (not to overstate it but...trying to save the planet!) and some of my meetings are quite high-stakes.

The other week when I had one of those high-stakes meetings (that had taken months of work to set up). I had flagged to DH well in advance that I was going to be out of the houses so school runs fell to him that day. And again, low and behold, DH ends up with a conflicting meeting at the last minute and it falls to me to call in a favour with neighbours to look after DC.

DH frequently works late or goes out after work without informing me whereas every time I need or want to do something which prevents me doing the school run I have to see if it fits in with DH and even after he agrees I can't rely on him upholding his end of the bargain because "something's come up".

Basically this shouldn't be a problem if DH just showed a bit of simple respect for the fact I still have a job and a life.

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OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 12:36

PurpleThistle7 · 24/07/2025 12:18

@OpalFruitsAreBetter sure? But that's not really the point. If things aren't working for the family, then you need to look at everything again. It doesn't seem to be working to have two people with intense jobs and inadequate childcare. You either need your husband (and his workplace) agree to contractual days at home or you need to adjust your work arrangements or you need to pay for something else or... I don't know. I have no idea what options are on the table with this kind of money but it seems like you shouldn't both be stressed out about childcare every week.

I think your husband does need to communicate better and does need to respect you more, but I have no idea if he's 'allowed' to just say no to going into the office on demand. As I said, my husband and I can't do that - any contracted hours of work we need to be prepared to work in the office, at any notice period or none at all. So if that's the situation you are in, than something needs to change.

Sure there's stuff that isn't working that needs to be dealt with, that much is obvious. I just object to those people basically saying "why is this even an issue because if your household income is £200k obviously just throw money at the problem and it goes away?".

If there was the equivalent of uber for childcare when I could just click a button and pay for an extra 30-60mins of childcare when I needed it then I'd be all over it. That's not a thing that exists. The idea that the solution is paying for a nanny is completely disproportionate.

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CowboyFromHell · 24/07/2025 12:28

All those posters saying his job comes first because he earns more than OP - I wonder how you’d feel if your kids teacher was constantly off school because her banker husband had an important meeting to attend. Or your operation was cancelled as the specialist nurse was off work as her lawyer husband had to go into the office.

Of course salary is an important factor but it shouldn’t be something that trumps every other consideration, in every circumstance, all of the time.

PurpleThistle7 · 24/07/2025 12:18

@OpalFruitsAreBetter sure? But that's not really the point. If things aren't working for the family, then you need to look at everything again. It doesn't seem to be working to have two people with intense jobs and inadequate childcare. You either need your husband (and his workplace) agree to contractual days at home or you need to adjust your work arrangements or you need to pay for something else or... I don't know. I have no idea what options are on the table with this kind of money but it seems like you shouldn't both be stressed out about childcare every week.

I think your husband does need to communicate better and does need to respect you more, but I have no idea if he's 'allowed' to just say no to going into the office on demand. As I said, my husband and I can't do that - any contracted hours of work we need to be prepared to work in the office, at any notice period or none at all. So if that's the situation you are in, than something needs to change.

OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 12:14

PurpleThistle7 · 24/07/2025 11:17

IMO the answer to some of these is ‘yes’ to be honest. If there’s a logistical issue and you have the income to come up with a creative solution then it’s something to consider. You can’t both prioritise everything all the time and if you both have to be away from home at the same time then your childcare solution doesn’t work. I have high income friends who have hello fresh subscriptions and cleaners and take taxis often and all sorts of things to help them manage their lives. So I do think it’s worth looking at it all again and seeing what space you can create with the money you are lucky to have.

Hello fresh subscriptions, cleaners and the occasional uber are all stuff we pay for. That's costing us about £4k-£5k pa total. That's a different order of magnitude to £2k a month on a nanny isn't it?

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OpalFruitsAreBetter · 24/07/2025 12:08

ExercicenformedeZ · 24/07/2025 10:16

YABU but with the qualification that he doesn't get to be a dick about it. I also don't understand how your role is now full time and yet still pays only half of your previous one. I presume it's not the same company/type of role? I also wonder if you want to maybe keep your eyes open for something different for when the kids are older. I won't lie, I would resent his attitude and also the fact that he earns so much more when you also work full time. I only put that YABU for the purely practical reason that his money is what keeps you all afloat. I don't think that you are actually unreasonable.

There's a different both in the seniority of roles and the sectors I'm working for - I took a significant promotion and moved into a better paying sector for the £100k job but both elements of that were, in hindsight, a mistake.

I'm working below my potential at the moment and am actively looking for a more senior role. However the max I could earn in this sector right now is probably about £65k-£70k, so an extra £15k-£20k pa. That's the difference between a good bonus and poor bonus for DH or totally dwarfed by his potential earnings after a promotion.

So we have had discussions about whether it's actually useful for me to be looking to move role again at the moment - I really love the job I do now, even though it's not got the status of a big job title or pay I'm getting useful experience and it's really rewarding work. And importantly I'm not at risk of burning out again. And notwithstanding the tensions I'm talking about here, broadly it works for our family in a way that my old role didn't. I never want to be in a position again when DH and I are both working so hard that DC are basically fending for themselves because we're both glued to our laptops.

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