To quite like being fat?

Yes I wonder how this op is getting on @Flumpflimpo

did you restart the diet?

Restarted the diet OP @Flumpflimpo ?!

@Tiswa yes the main reason I have been losing weight is because I was pre diabetic - and I’ve reversed that even though still 3 stone overweight . I’ve always ate healthily - just clearly too much of it !

Diet is a huge part of type 2 diabetes - sugary drinks refined carbs etc. Weight is a risk factor for insulin resistance

the diet that causes diabetes will (very) often go hand in hand with weight given it is a high calorie diet. BUT you can get it without being overweight if you have the diet and don’t gain weight

what you eat and how much you exercise is incredibly important no matter what your weight is. A healthy balanced diet is the cornerstone of longevity

I exercise and eat a (mainly due to vegan DD) plant based diet. And I carry excess weight it is the balance between eating enough nutrients and to enable me to have the physical fitness I want and losing weight due to my peri menopausal metabolism! And that is one that I am looking at

i wont be taking injections though as the risks of being too thin at this age are there as much as being overweight and I won’t sacrifice healthy diet and exercise

Really? Quite a lot of “evidence” to prove your theory? Where? @PopeJoan2

Not unreasonable...But I think it's all relative as to why someone is 'fat'

I nearly died during childbirth and have had complications.
It's taken nearly 2 years to accept my new body, whilst very VERY slowly losing weight and regaining my health (whilst going back to work and being a Mum!).

If I was this weight before that happened, there would be no excuse for it. I would just be fat out of laziness.

But because there's reasons behind my current weight, it's helped me make more sense of it and acceptance of it.

For me, the weight will come off to some degree eventually, but due to my health issues post baby, I'm unlikely to be a size 10/12 again. So I guess in a way I do need to learn to be 'happy and fat' as I feel I'll always be at least somewhat bigger than I once was.

Eat well, stay as active as you can and keep your brain busy, that's important!

No link to what piqued your interest?

Peer reviewed scientific papers.

Yes
You can find “evidence” when you google of pretty much anything and everything you can possibly think of

as ever, the devil is in the details. Namely the source of any such “evidence”

It’s mumsnet

theres is rarely a “need” for a comment 😆

well I did say so there was no need for your comment.

I don’t know why I have never googled this. Perhaps because I have been taken in by the narrative that fat people are to blame but I just googled and there is quite a lot of evidence based research to prove this “opinion”. The weight loss meds wouldn’t exist without scientists pursuing this idea.

Yeah, honestly, its a nice weight to be.

Not too chubby that exercise etc is difficult or you cant find clothes, and also room to have the odd treat etc as well.

I honestly think at any size, as long as you are exercising and eating relatively well, most of the time, you shouldn't be concerned.

My sister is a size 20 and walks more than I do in a day and has a much more demanding job on her feet all day!

@ellie09 I’m aiming for BMI of 28 and a size 12/14 and a bit fitter! I honestly will be quite happy with that at 63

@ellie09 I’m aiming for BMI of 28 and a size 12/14 and a bit fitter! I honestly will be quite happy with that at 63

You felt cold at 9stone?!

Read Fat is a Feminist Issue.

Quite possibly because no scientific evidence for it

and it’s your opinion

I meant regarding your clarification you aren’t a scientist

Why is it never reported that way round in press or at health centres? Is it part of the general bullying of fat people, blaming them for the condition?

You don’t say?

To those who say that fat people are at greater risk of diabetes I have long suspected that it is the other way round; that many people with a predisposition for diabetes are fat because of that predisposition which drives them to eat nonstop. it is no surprise to me that diabetes meds are used to treat those individuals’ obesity. Of course I am no scientist.

@Dontlletmedownbruce my tip in that situation is get your best gladrags on , bang on the make up, make your hair nice, mentally tell yourself you look great - and get yourself in a couple of dance excercise classes a week - all shapes and sizes and sometimes I have to stop or do my own ‘variation’ of moves- but it got me moving and gave me a bit more pep - and I’m not for or agile!! It’s the old fake it till you make it -

I think we honestly put too much weight on what the scales say.

I think theres nothing wrong with a bit of extra fat, or if you're a little chubby, as long as you eat relatively healthy and exercise regularly, whether that be walks, gyms, swimming. running etc.

I'm a size 12 and a little chubby. BMI is 29 or so. I walk 90 mins daily with the dog, swim regularly and eat healthy about 80% of the time but allow myself some treats etc also.

I have been a lot happier and comfortable in myself since just enjoying life rather than obsessing on the scales ( I have been 6 stone before and a size 4 and also been up to a 14!)

That saying, I think if your BMI is morbidly obese, and its causing problems with mobility or health issues, then you probably need to reevaluate.

@incognitomouse thank you - I just want to give people hope that it is possible to lose weight not on WLI - and I’m 63 , as not everyone can afford it or feels comfortable with it or tolerates the side effects. just for me requires an awful lot of willpower - I also use GLP1 appetite suppressant's ( berberine tablets ) once a day - much milder than MJ in effect , but do take the edge off feeling hungry for me.

I am jealous OP. I am exactly the same as you in height clothes size and BMI. So I know exactly what you mean. I absolutely hate my fat body. I constantly agonise over losing weight and then feel like a constant failure over it. Every now and again I say feck it I'm just going to be happy, and I have a couple of wonderful months but every time I hit a point of gaining significantly and feeling worse, heavy lethargic and uncomfortable. So it's like I can't win. Recently I've been working on confidence and happiness and gratitude, ive lost a few lbs just by feeling a bit happier and living life with a bit more 'pep in my step'. That's my goal now, self love and activity for health, if loss follows then it's a bonus. If not I'm still a happier person than I was, but on some level I won't be truly happy until I am no longer obese.