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AIBU for pronouncing the name Brooke as BrOOKe rather than Bruck

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MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 22/07/2025 11:54

I’m a Geordie and pronounce words such as Book, Look and Cook with an oo sound rather than the uck sound.
A family who are from about an hour a way said that her daughter is sick of everyone pronouncing her name incorrectly.

I explained that it’s an accent thing as we pronounce those words with an oo sound rather that uck so it wouldn’t occur to most people to pronounce it that way and they wouldn’t deliberately mispronounce her name!

Just as if I go another part of the country or different country they pronounce my name differently depending on their accent.

AIBU?

OP posts:
doodleschnoodle · 22/07/2025 16:45

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 16:42

doodleschnoodle · Today 12:26

MN and its typical southern England-centric ‘This is how things are spoken’ rhetoric.

A lot of you are wrong. Look up rhotic and non-rhotic accents, I beg you.

I thought rhoticity was purely about the pronunciation of the letter 'r'. I don't think it has anything to with how 'oo' is pronounced. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of northern England has non-rhotic accents.

yes it is but there’s a lot of commonality between understanding how the accents work differently in this way and how they work differently in other similar ways. Once you understand that the same words can be pronounced differently in one example, it’s easy to understand how that might work on a different scale.

doodleschnoodle · 22/07/2025 16:42

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/07/2025 16:31

OK, but the question is about pronouncing a persons name*, which is a different matter from the pronunciation of ordinary, everyday words in whatever local accent.

Refusing to pronounce a name the way you’ve been told is the way the person likes it, and the way everybody else does, is just plain bad manners - and deliberate bad manners at that.

Here is me saying ‘Luke took a look in his cook book before jumping over the brook in the woods with a hook’. Trigger warning, it might blow some minds. This is in a very generic Scottish middle class accent.

https://voca.ro/16lZlnlUCv7l

Edit: didn’t mean to quote that post!

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TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 16:42

doodleschnoodle · Today 12:26

MN and its typical southern England-centric ‘This is how things are spoken’ rhetoric.

A lot of you are wrong. Look up rhotic and non-rhotic accents, I beg you.

I thought rhoticity was purely about the pronunciation of the letter 'r'. I don't think it has anything to with how 'oo' is pronounced. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of northern England has non-rhotic accents.

Overtheway · 22/07/2025 16:41

Ah, you haven't done anything wrong... but I really feel for her.

My in-laws are from the North East and I hate how they say my name. It sounds so different to my pronunciation so it sounds like they are calling me something that's just not my name, and I just really dislike how it sounds (love the accent in general, just not what it does to my name).

I'll never tell them because I wouldn't want to offend anyone, but I do cringe every time they say my name. It was definitely a big factor when we chose names for our DC! Lots of names were also vetoed because of how they sound in accent too though... maybe her parents should have thought more about pronunciation when they named her 🤷‍♀️.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 22/07/2025 16:41

ScouserInExile · 22/07/2025 13:41

I do.
I pronounce it bruck to rhyme with duck and book/buck, cook, look/luck truck. And yeah, fuck.
Liverpool/Lancashire accent.

Exactly. You wouldn't pronounce it as in Yuck, as said in a southern person's accent, which is what a lot of people are assuming on this thread. I think the poster meant Brooke pronounced to rhyme with look, in most accents. I do know people who say loook, boook etc (Manchester and Cheshire) but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't say Brooooke, either because it's not as if there aren't quite a lot of people with that name and it's not as if people will never have heard it said before. And I know Mr and Mrs Brookes don't call themselves Brooookes here in south Cumbria.

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 16:32

The difference with Niamh = Neev etc is that there isn't an accent that would legitimately pronounce it how it's spelt. It would just be ignorance.

OP is pronouncing Brooke how everyone else with her accent would say it. There are little Brookes running around in the northeast who all pronounce it the same way as the OP. It's a regional difference, not ignorance.
If you knew a Brooke from the northeast would you make sure you pronounced it Brooooke with the long oo even though that isn't what you would usually say for book etc?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/07/2025 16:31

doodleschnoodle · 22/07/2025 12:26

MN and its typical southern England-centric ‘This is how things are spoken’ rhetoric.

A lot of you are wrong. Look up rhotic and non-rhotic accents, I beg you.

OK, but the question is about pronouncing a persons name*, which is a different matter from the pronunciation of ordinary, everyday words in whatever local accent.

Refusing to pronounce a name the way you’ve been told is the way the person likes it, and the way everybody else does, is just plain bad manners - and deliberate bad manners at that.

cakeisallyouneed · 22/07/2025 16:30

I have a geordie Auntie. Her name is pronounced Morr-een (to rhyme with Coleen). I thought it was a nice unique name.

I was an adult before I realised her name was Maureen. 😀

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/07/2025 16:24

ArtTheClown · 22/07/2025 15:34

I can't think of any English accent that would say Bruck for Brooke. There are two ways of saying the phoneme 'oo' (long as in moon or short as in the way most English people say book) - in some accents the longer of the two is always used but not an 'ugh' sound.

Right? I know people keep insisting it's so on the thread but I've literally never heard this.
Book pronounced Buck? I'm going to need evidence.

It has been explained now. Bruck to rhyme with fuck in a Yorkshire accent. (Or book, took, hook to probably most people)

needtostopnamechanging · 22/07/2025 16:23

It’s just the extra mental load

and for some people it’s really hard - I find maths easy that others struggle with but names and sounds … I need all the help I can get and that includes sensible spellings

Idontpostmuch · 22/07/2025 16:21

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 14:57

There does seem to be a level of ignorance on this thread about differing pronunciations, but you are referring to words NOT names (grass, grahhss) etc.

Names should be pronounced how the person pronounces them, otherwise you may as well just call them a different word altogether, if OP can say truck, then she can certainly say Bruck.. If she didn't know how it was spelled, and she was told her name was Bruck, then she would just call her Bruck, so calling her brooook because of how it is spelled is just ridiculous.

Case in point, the name Niamh.. NO ONE says it based on how it is spelled, it is always 'Neeve' around these parts, yet no one seems to have any bother pronouncing it? It would be pig ignorant to purposely call them Neeeammmh when you knew it was pronounced Neeve.

Like the name Mhairi, pronounced Vari.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 16:19

TortillaChipAddict · 22/07/2025 16:16

There are two ways to pronounce the oo sound, that’s where the problem is. Some
northern English accents pronounce it a lot longer then others further south, so to them it probably does sound like people from further south are saying bruck, but actually there is a slight difference between the u and oo sounds. I sympathise with the girl but actually it is an issue she will have to deal with - both of my daughters have names which are harder to pronounce correctly where we now live. I just pronounce them how they should be pronounced but we don’t get too hung up if people say them differently.

There are two ways to pronounce the oo sound, that’s where the problem is.

No, there at least three.

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 16:19

OMG. These kinds of threads drive me dotty! It's as though nobody in the UK has ever heard accents from any other part of the UK except the one they live in!

To sum up:

OP pronounces 'Brooke' to rhyme with Luke.
People who are not Geordies (or from certain other parts of the NE or maybe also Scotland?) pronounce Brooke with a short 'oo' as in 'look'. This sound doesn't exist in some NE or maybe Scottish accents. OP transcribed this sound as 'uck' because that's how you'd pronounce 'uck' in much of the North of England.

Absolutely nobody would pronounce 'Brooke' as 'Bruck' would be pronounced in Southern England.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 16:18

ArtTheClown · 22/07/2025 15:34

I can't think of any English accent that would say Bruck for Brooke. There are two ways of saying the phoneme 'oo' (long as in moon or short as in the way most English people say book) - in some accents the longer of the two is always used but not an 'ugh' sound.

Right? I know people keep insisting it's so on the thread but I've literally never heard this.
Book pronounced Buck? I'm going to need evidence.

Book is not pronounced as (how you think of) Buck.

Buck is being pronounced as (how you think of ) Book.

TortillaChipAddict · 22/07/2025 16:16

There are two ways to pronounce the oo sound, that’s where the problem is. Some
northern English accents pronounce it a lot longer then others further south, so to them it probably does sound like people from further south are saying bruck, but actually there is a slight difference between the u and oo sounds. I sympathise with the girl but actually it is an issue she will have to deal with - both of my daughters have names which are harder to pronounce correctly where we now live. I just pronounce them how they should be pronounced but we don’t get too hung up if people say them differently.

FartyBrainedHippo · 22/07/2025 16:13

I cant make any sense of how some of these words are sounded.

Just call her Brick.

Melancholyflower · 22/07/2025 16:13

doodleschnoodle · 22/07/2025 12:42

https://voca.ro/15RiSIqfElk7

This is the closest I can get. The first is how I say it in my natural accent. The second I have to put on an ‘English’ accent to create that sound. It’s not a sound that naturally exists in my accent for ‘op’.

Your second time is how some people in England pronounce it, but it seems that the OP's family are from the North, but south of her, so probably Yorkshire and they don't pronounce it like that.
As others have already said, for lots of us Northerners, look, cook, luck, tuck, hook, suck etc. rhyme. Only words which most English accents pronounce with a longer 'oo' sound, such as food, mood, boot don't rhyme, because we also use the longer sound.

marmite2025 · 22/07/2025 16:12

I have no idea how I sound, I’ve read it out loud and in my head so many times everything now sounds weird but I have a very mixed accent

https://youtube.com/shorts/UM21lcn-C24?si=sdVJ9mxwpvxkEPYW

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 16:10

LeaderBee · 22/07/2025 16:05

I think you should pronounce someones name how they telll you to.
I have a very unusual name and it winds me up when people get it wrong.

Saying that, i ain't calling nobody Creg.

Right but how they tell you to might be different in their accent to yours.

My sisters name is Katie. In our Yorkshire accent it's more like Keey-eh, she would be laughed at if she tried to make southern people pronounce Katie that way. She's perfectly happy to answer to Kay-tee even though they sound quite different.

marmite2025 · 22/07/2025 16:08

BagGreen24 · 22/07/2025 15:41

You've obviously never been up north then. Book is buck to me, but that's my accent. Brooke would be Bruck. If someone corrected me I would try and say it with an oo sound but would probably think they were being rude to me

I would say bruck, the same as I would say for brook

brewk sounds like I imagine someone from Liverpool pronouncing it and I don’t know how else to say it!
buck and book sound very similar when I say them but look and luck sound slightly different

I have a bad habit of saying haf past instead of half

LeaderBee · 22/07/2025 16:05

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 16:01

That isn't the rule. Accents make everyone pronounce names slightly differently. I can't roll my Rs, it would be ridiculous of someone with a name from an accent that does roll their Rs to expect me to pronounce their name the exact same way as they do.

If you met an American Graham would you be happy calling him Gram?

I think you should pronounce someones name how they telll you to.
I have a very unusual name and it winds me up when people get it wrong.

Saying that, i ain't calling nobody Creg.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 22/07/2025 16:02

Are you saying “oo” like ( to use Read, write inc’s phonetics) “ poo at the zoo” or “ look at a book”?
I’m a southerner living in Yorkshire, and we can get a bit hung up on this sound… but, I would ( and do for a child with that name) use the “look at a book” version! 😊

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 16:01

LizzieLazzie · 22/07/2025 15:32

The rule is that you pronounce a child’s name in the same way that the parents do. As a teacher I have come across a variety of names, some that I’d not heard before and always ask to make sure I don’t upset anyone. Your own regional accent has no bearing on this.

That isn't the rule. Accents make everyone pronounce names slightly differently. I can't roll my Rs, it would be ridiculous of someone with a name from an accent that does roll their Rs to expect me to pronounce their name the exact same way as they do.

If you met an American Graham would you be happy calling him Gram?

Howtotrainarabbit · 22/07/2025 16:01

I'm not sure because it's an accent but you could easily say "Bruck" I'm guessing

If I named my son Hugo, my friends in Yorkshire would pronounce it differently from my family in London, but I wouldn't expect them to change an accent and I can't decide whether what you're proposing is different

TorroFerney · 22/07/2025 16:00

Dramatic · 22/07/2025 15:37

There are lots of English accents that do. Because in some accents buck and book sound exactly the same, therefore Brooke would sound like Bruck

Yes mine! East Lancs. I am totally mystified by this third way that’s not brick or brewk. And I hear all different accents I’m not stuck in a Lancastrian bubble.