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Summer holidays should be longer

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noblegiraffe · 21/07/2025 09:24

Our kids have the shortest summer holidays in Europe, Italy have 13 weeks, even Ireland has 9.

They're under pressure so much at school they need more time to just be kids. Classrooms are so hot in the last few weeks of term that it's impossible to learn effectively anyway.

I think we should add at least an extra two weeks to the summer holidays, so break up near the start of July. This would bring us more into line with private schools too.

And with longer holidays it might help recruit and retain teachers, and reduce competition for summer annual leave slots for working parents. It could even reduce the cost of holidays as 'peak season' would be longer.

Summer holidays should be longer
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Bushmillsbabe · 21/07/2025 16:35

DorothyStorm · 21/07/2025 15:14

My state sixth form college finished at 5. We also only attended four days.

For 6th form that makes a lot of sense, at 17/18 children are getting ready to start work. And having 5th day allows for part time jobs, study etc.
But I think primary age may struggle to focus until 5pm, especially under 7's

Praying4Peace · 21/07/2025 16:35

Never going to happen unless parents annual leave is increased also

Bushmillsbabe · 21/07/2025 16:32

waterrat · 21/07/2025 09:34

Op the problem is that it is a massive driver of social inequality.

If we had amazing state funded sport and arts clubs for kids going through to 16 years then yes it would be amazing

But I live in a disadvantaged area and can tell you many children from poorer families will barely do anything all summer. We know with growth in traffic and changing culture children dont play outside in large numbers now. Kids will game or watch tv for hours.

Working parents on low incomes will struggle hugely over summer.

Children will not be enriched or happy or having wonderful holidays and making memories.

Even if they do have some nice days they will spend too much time indoors etx

We need proper holiday clubs and projects in every neighbourhood byt austerity has decimated youth snd play provision

Many local authorities lost 80 per cent of youth and play provision over 10 years of austerity.

School is not the ideal way children should be spending their time...!!! But we need realistic alternatives not a daydream of a golden era of running about freely which doesn't happen

There don't have to be government funded. Our village has a variety of options free or low cost through a combination of village fundraising, getting grants, volunteers giving up time.
If I help for 2 days my children get a whole weeks plsyscheme for free. A drama related playscheme my oldest auditioned for and got a free week, a local church run free playscheme for my youngest, and older children 12+ can volunteer with this and get to do lots of fun activities for free plus goes towards things like DoE. We share childcare with neighbours/friends - I have their for a day whilst they work and vice versa.

There are HAF funded playschemes for those on low incomes. There are lots of options which are free or inexpensive, but it takes being proactive, doing research and planning ahead.

Saying all that, I wouldn't want to have to figure it out for more than 7 weeks!

WhereIsMyJumper · 21/07/2025 16:28

I agree with the suggestion someone made about 4 day school/work weeks instead

coxesorangepippin · 21/07/2025 16:23

Yes to longer holidays

As long as there are camps for kids to go to

And none of this flimsy 9-2pm shit - proper day camps like in the States and Canada

MellowPinkDeer · 21/07/2025 16:22

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/07/2025 15:33

I accept the 2nd part of your comment. But education needs a massive shake up, whether it be school holidays or some other aspect. As it is at the moment, it fails too many children.

But as for the first part, that's on you.

How can it be on me ?! I actually work from home and my kids are older so it wouldn’t be a big deal really personally , but I can at least see that this would be the stark choice many families would be faced with and what we don’t need as a country is more people in need of help from the state because decisions have been made that make it even harder for working parents. I’ve always worked full time since my babies were born but it was not easy, at all, when they were smaller ( and I was in the office 5 days pre covid) it shouldn’t have to be so hard to invest in your future and have a career.

floppybit · 21/07/2025 16:17

@waterrat totally agree - there will be children who spend most of the holidays stuck indoors on screens, not frolicking around outside, unfortunately.

twistyizzy · 21/07/2025 16:15

MrsMurphyIWish · 21/07/2025 16:09

But you said that was because they have clubs til 5 but finish lessons at 4. The state school I teach in, and the school my children attend, finish at 3.45 so not that much earlier that your child’s independent.

There is a state school near me that finishes at 3 but they start at 8.20.

Does your DD attend school on a Saturday?

Yes attends Saturday mornings also
Our local state finishes at 2.30pm

hellohellooo · 21/07/2025 16:13

@noblegiraffe we have some great Gaelic football camps

So for example three weeks and it is 10 pound per day per child

I have to also pay for extra child care as I am working all summer
Off for a week in sept

I can't believe the summer holidays in England and wales are so short
Way too short I think

ConnieHeart · 21/07/2025 16:12

MrsMurphyIWish · 21/07/2025 16:11

I bloody wish - and I’m sure teaching would be a highly competitive career to enter into if we were on holiday more than working!

No it wouldn't as teachers & other education staff don't get paid for holidays

MrsMurphyIWish · 21/07/2025 16:11

Luckyingame · 21/07/2025 14:10

YABVU and I don't have kids.
They are on holidays more than at school.

I bloody wish - and I’m sure teaching would be a highly competitive career to enter into if we were on holiday more than working!

MrsMurphyIWish · 21/07/2025 16:09

twistyizzy · 21/07/2025 14:38

Because thr school days are longer at independent schools! DD finishes at 5pm hence longer holidays

But you said that was because they have clubs til 5 but finish lessons at 4. The state school I teach in, and the school my children attend, finish at 3.45 so not that much earlier that your child’s independent.

There is a state school near me that finishes at 3 but they start at 8.20.

Does your DD attend school on a Saturday?

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/07/2025 15:33

MellowPinkDeer · 21/07/2025 15:02

Would it benefit my children if I was unable to work due to increased school holidays and therefore had to sell my house and live off benefits? Don’t think so.

the trouble with changing NOW would be that people have based their lives around what is currently in place, so to change that would cause absolute chaos and disadvantage many , many families AND their children.

I accept the 2nd part of your comment. But education needs a massive shake up, whether it be school holidays or some other aspect. As it is at the moment, it fails too many children.

But as for the first part, that's on you.

DorothyStorm · 21/07/2025 15:14

twistyizzy · 21/07/2025 11:34

They break up earlier cos school day is longer! My DD finishes school at 5pm hence longer holidays.
There would be uproar if state schools finished at 5pm.

My state sixth form college finished at 5. We also only attended four days.

DorothyStorm · 21/07/2025 15:07

EarthlyNightshade · 21/07/2025 14:38

All adults or just parents?

All adults. There are lots of experiments atm over the four day week not being less productive. Thats 80%. I know
someone who has worked 80% since her child started school but done it by working f/t in term time and working far less in holidays.

businesses need to be thinking more outside the box since they no longer pay enough to allow for only one adult in a household working.

JazbayGrapes · 21/07/2025 15:03

Growing up in another country, we had whole 3 months. Though i hated my school, i think what we had there was pretty much heaven.

MellowPinkDeer · 21/07/2025 15:02

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/07/2025 14:32

School isn't to facilitate childcare though. It's for the benefit of the children.

Would it benefit my children if I was unable to work due to increased school holidays and therefore had to sell my house and live off benefits? Don’t think so.

the trouble with changing NOW would be that people have based their lives around what is currently in place, so to change that would cause absolute chaos and disadvantage many , many families AND their children.

Flossflower · 21/07/2025 15:02

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/07/2025 14:32

School isn't to facilitate childcare though. It's for the benefit of the children.

I disagree. It is childcare as well. Before the Second World War children went home for lunch but schools had to take on lunch time cover during the war and afterwards because often both parents were working.

BeamMeUpCountMeIn · 21/07/2025 14:57

Yabu.

They should lose a week or two and add them to Xmas and Feb half term. Those months are miserable and everyone gets ill. I'd rather slow down in the dark winter and rush around in summer. Kids can play out after school in summer, they can't do that from Nov - Feb.

dottiedodah · 21/07/2025 14:52

I went to School in the late 60s /70s .There has been a dispute about the 6 week break for years!As far as I know there are discussions about kids getting behind ,and having to catch up /No idea if true or not.I feel 6 weeks is just right really .They start to get bored before School begins ,Working parents have abig enough headache as it is . Extra weeks would be a problem

EarthlyNightshade · 21/07/2025 14:38

Lourdes12 · 21/07/2025 14:00

I agree! Adults need to have more annual leave to accommodate this

All adults or just parents?

twistyizzy · 21/07/2025 14:38

UsernameCreateded · 21/07/2025 14:33

Definitely.
Around here at least independent schools are 32 weeks long, yet state educated children have an additional 4 weeks. I’m sure this is detrimental to their wellbeing / mental health.
I think 3 weeks off for Christmas and Easter, and 8 for summer would be the most sensible , keeping the half terms.

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Because thr school days are longer at independent schools! DD finishes at 5pm hence longer holidays

UsernameCreateded · 21/07/2025 14:33

Definitely.
Around here at least independent schools are 32 weeks long, yet state educated children have an additional 4 weeks. I’m sure this is detrimental to their wellbeing / mental health.
I think 3 weeks off for Christmas and Easter, and 8 for summer would be the most sensible , keeping the half terms.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/07/2025 14:32

MellowPinkDeer · 21/07/2025 09:27

That would be lovely if working people ( who aren’t teachers!) got more than 34 days annual leave!

School isn't to facilitate childcare though. It's for the benefit of the children.

Flossflower · 21/07/2025 14:29

@noblegiraffe
I think we know that you are a teacher. I suspect you just want a longer summer holiday. It is a funny way to look at it to say we are bottom of the league table for holidays. Some people might think we are top. A long break in the summer can disrupt learning.
It is really difficult for parents to find childcare in the summer and as a grandparent I certainly know that as I have the grandchildren for a few weeks. Some kids will be left on their own and spend all their time on their phones or gaming. This is not good for mental health. Yes it would be lovely if there were free holiday clubs for everyone but there are so many others things in this country to fix. It is not going to happen anytime soon.