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Not invited to DSis big birthday

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50FreezeOut1 · 19/07/2025 22:42

My DSis turned 50 yesterday and I've found out today she had a birthday meal out with her friends, my siblings and our parents.

AIBU to be upset at not being invited?

Photos look to be about 10 friends plus DB (no partner at the moment) and DSis+DBIL. Plus DB's son and DSis daughter and son. Plus DM and DF. Plus DSis50 and DBIL and their DDs.

This came as a complete surprise. We caught up at May half term and hung out for a weekend, DSis50, her family and mine. A month or so ago I messaged my siblings to arrange a joint 50th gift which cost me a considerable amount of time and effort. No one mentioned it to me at all.

The reason I'm posting is because I'd like some advice about what I do next. The photos aren't attempting to hide the meal out. Of course I would see them. I'm seeing my DM on Monday to spend the first day of the school holidays together. Do I say something? What do I say to my siblings in our WhatsApp group? Anything? Nothing?

OP posts:
50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 19:48

Thank you to everyone who has shared their perspective. The questions asked are really helping me to see what it could be. I've taken a long time to reply because I wanted to read lots of people's views before responding. Sometimes on these threads everyone says the same thing on the first couple of pages then different perspectives come through later that can shed different light on the issue. Also I have been out for the day with the DC and didn't want to read the thread whilst with them because it would bring the reality of the situation back to me and make me not very good company.

Answering some questions:

No I don't have a drink problem. I drink the least but not in a judgemental of their drinking way.

We're all full siblings and our DPs are still together.

We live close enough to drive there and drive back in an evening. DH always offers to drive so I can drink with them.

I'm really accommodating with meeting when and where suits them. When the DC were little I gave parameters because of naps but otherwise would make it work.

There is a wealth gap with me the poorest. I chose a vocational career which I absolutely love. They chose corporate highly paid highly stressful roles (although are very senior now so less stress in a way). I'm not bothered that they earn more than me because I made the choice to be happy at work rather than earn a lot. I know you can have both but the corporate career I started in was relentless so over a decade ago I switched out into non corporate and have never regretted it.

Looking particularly at @WhereYouLeftIt explanation. I am the black sheep/scapegoat and have been since I was a child. But I worked really hard at not being controversial or hard work. Hence I now have lots of friends. I'm consciously that nice new version around them because I am acutely self aware.

I feel disappointed rather than angry about this. I'm upset because I don't know what I've done wrong because if I knew I definitely wouldn't have done it or if I knew I would apologise for it.

I'm not more successful in comparison to them. I'd go so far as to say my DM has been embarrassed about my comparative lack of boast-able success in the past. I'm doing what I love, find meaning in my work and can afford a 'normal' lifestyle. By that I mean a mortgaged house, long term doer-upper, bog standard car, 1 foreign holiday a year in a European destination - all different from my new Tesla owning, multiple foreign holiday going, mortgage free siblings. But I'm genuinely not envious because I don't want to do what they do for a living to earn the kind of money you need for those things.

I lived two hours away for a couple of years in my 20s but deliberately moved closer once my Sisters starting having kids so I could be nearby for every family event. In the 20+ years since I have never opted out of one for any reason other than simply not being available e.g. holidays, important prior engagements. I've always bent over backwards to accommodate them and DH fell into line with that when I met him. It was taken as read that's what I needed/wanted to do.

I decided to cancel my Monday with my DM. The weather isn't looking great so I've blamed it on that and suggested other dates later in the holidays to buy me time to decide what to do.

With regards 'there must be more to this. What are you hiding?' please do ask me any direct questions about what might have happened in the past or things I may or may not have done. If there was something obvious to me e.g. my political views then I would include it to help people help me make sense of it. But as I say, I am very aware that there are topics to avoid so I do.

I'm not vegan or over/underweight. I'm neither beautiful nor successful. I have 2 wonderful DC 1DS and 1DD. They are easy to get on with when they come to family events. They are interesting and interested (early teens). I knew DH was the one for me because he was the first of my boyfriends to really get on with my friends and family without any awkwardness. He's easy going and remembers things about people and asks them e.g. how their ski trip was.

I get on particularly well with my DM's Sis who I'm meeting with my DC over the holidays. She was there at the DM 'spontaneous' lunch when I was excluded and afterwards apologised on behalf of everyone who was there and didn't think to invite me. It wasn't necessarily her apology to make per se but I really appreciated that someone there saw it was wrong and apologised that it had happened. That validated my hurt that time.

My Bro missed a Christmas get together last Christmas because of a last minute holiday with his then partner. Sis50 was really annoyed with him not being there for an event she'd organised. But there he was at her 50th not me! (Who was there at Christmas).

This point by @Calliopespa is really helpful in helping me understand the situation more clearly.

I'm sorry but for some reason they don't like having you there - and the feeling is not limited to your Dsis. None of us can say if its justified or not from what we know, but the fact it isn't just your Dsis and the fact they don't enjoy you being at these functions is plain.

You are right. They don't want me there. Which helps make my decision not to be there in future. Knowing they feel this about me would mean I would no longer enjoy it. And knowing they would enjoy it more if I wasn't there makes things so clear. Thank you.

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Desdemonadryeyes · 20/07/2025 19:42

Family’s can be so cruel.

Northernladdette · 20/07/2025 19:38

Did my invitation get lost in the post?😡

Pessismistic · 20/07/2025 19:33

Sorry you went through this op but I would be putting on what’s app hey sis did you get our joint present just haven’t heard from you yet so hope it arrived for the big day. See how she responds then you mention her meal then say oh right just so I know for future reference am I to be excluded for all big occasions like mums meal? I would not care how they took it tbh they have been nasty by leaving you out twice. This is personal even if you can’t see it.

BluntLion · 20/07/2025 19:32

Inthecafe · 20/07/2025 19:27

presumably you arranged your own plans then for your mother @BluntLion

Yes, but as there was only DSis and I it would've been nice to have been asked 🤷‍♀️

Inthecafe · 20/07/2025 19:27

BluntLion · 20/07/2025 18:57

I'd find it incredibly hurtful. My DSis used to do this with our DM all the time, even for Mother's Day. Another reason I've never regretted cutting DSis off years ago. I'm sorry OP.

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presumably you arranged your own plans then for your mother @BluntLion

Speckly · 20/07/2025 19:21

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/07/2025 23:30

I'd call them all out. The sis and the others who agreed not to mention it to you.
"I see you all got together for Dsis birthday.
Perhaps you could tell me Dsis why I wasn't invited.. Or perhaps rest of the family could explain why you all agreed to keep it a secret but then posted pictures on Facebook. You clearly wanted me to know I was excluded.
I'm surprised that after making the all arrangements for you to get DSis a really nice group birthday present, not one of you mentioned it.

And then see what they say.
And your Mum knew but was sworn to secrecy.. why? and why did she go along with it.

This ⬆️Followed by sentence “Do you not realise how utterly unkind and hurtful this is?”

Also, when they’re called out, I’d lay money on them using the fact you’re 50/60 minutes away excuse again (not that I believe that’s the actual reason) 😔 I wouldn’t let that fly though… Point out all the occasions you’ve made the journey previously.

If they say they didn’t think you’d want to come because it’s so far away, explain that whether you came or not, the fact that you weren’t even asked is really hurtful. You don’t not invite someone because you think they won’t come. You invite them and you let them decide!

If they’ve done this before and knew you were upset, why on earth would they do it again? It’s just really nasty! I’m so sorry for how much they’ve hurt you OP.

Cornishclio · 20/07/2025 19:18

It sounds like a pattern if they have excluded you several times now. I would be thinking very carefully about how much time to spend with them in future and how much effort I would put into presents etc for birthdays etc in the future. I would cancel your arrangements with your mum tomorrow and tell her why. They are all culpable.

OpheliaNightingale · 20/07/2025 19:15

@50FreezeOut1that sounds so painful. Are you able to give a little more context around your family dynamics? Geographical location? Any back story?

BruFord · 20/07/2025 19:09

Brefugee · 20/07/2025 16:00

to be clear, when i suggest throwing in the hand grenade, i don't mean "and discuss/argue with them"

the statement: sister is a fucker for not thanking op for the gift, family are cunts for excluding. kthksbai

@Brefugee For me, it would depend on my sister’s response. If she said that I make a big fuss when I go out for family meals, criticize the choice of venue, moan about the food, etc. so no one wants to got out for meals with me anymore, I’d need to reflect on whether she had a point. Same if she said that I’ve upset a family member by doing X and they don’t want to socialize with me anymore.

If it’s vague excuses like I didn’t realize that you weren’t invited, etc., I’d know it was BS and got LC/cut them off. But at least I’d know for sure.

CarelessUdder · 20/07/2025 19:06

I’m so sorry you’ve been excluded like this. It must be very hurtful indeed. It’s totally unacceptable to behave like this. Do they blame you for other things? You could arrange a family meal and leave one of them off the invitation. “Oh im sorry I thought it was okay to have a family meal with everyone except one person…” I’m joking, of course, but wow it would be cathartic. Other people gave amazing advice here. I hope some of it helps.

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2025 19:00

I like @Anonimummy's post at · Today 02:14

I'd do that one

MrTiddlesTheCat · 20/07/2025 18:59

It's a horrible thing to do and I'm not surprised you're upset. My family were like this with me and it hurts. I no longer have any contact with them. As a previous poster says, they don't like having you there. In my case it was because they were nasty fuckwits who enjoyed encouraging each other to be like that. I didn't find it funny so was left out as they didn't want a reminder of the fact they were being horrible. My presence ruined their fun.

BluntLion · 20/07/2025 18:57

I'd find it incredibly hurtful. My DSis used to do this with our DM all the time, even for Mother's Day. Another reason I've never regretted cutting DSis off years ago. I'm sorry OP.

ArtTheClown · 20/07/2025 18:52

I'm sorry but for some reason they don't like having you there - and the feeling is not limited to your Dsis. None of us can say if its justified or not from what we know, but the fact it isn't just your Dsis and the fact they don't enjoy you being at these functions is plain. Interesting that they include you on whats app and see you individually. You need to think what is different at a group social function. Loudmouth DH? Are you inclined to take over the conversation? But honestly, its hard for us to say.

The OP comes across as perfectly nice and reasonable. But that aside - so what? One of my brothers has a pretty awful wife, but I still don't exclude them - I grit my teeth because I like spending time with him and my nephew, and I have no desire to put him in a difficult situation either.
The love of your family shoulnd't be conditional on you being a flawless human being.

Arran2024 · 20/07/2025 18:51

That's awful. Look into family scapegoating.

TheDevilFindsWorkForIdleMums · 20/07/2025 18:48

That sounds deliberately nasty.......I wouldn't be giving them the satisfaction of a reaction to it which they'll love. Just cancel any meet ups and quietly withdraw.

BeesBeesMillionsOfBees · 20/07/2025 18:39

Hope you are ok OP, such a horrible situation to be in.

My dad was recently excluded from a family wedding (all of his wider family were asked). He is so hurt by the whole thing. They didn’t include me or my sister and our families which I could understand due to numbers, but they all go on about him being the ‘head of the family’, and yet left him out, but all his siblings were there.
He’s the kindest, most gentle man, and at 80 years old, it felt very unnecessary to do that to him.

For me, I would have to drive to my sister’s home unannounced and ask her in person as I would want to see the look on her face.
WhatsApp is too easy to hide behind, and I would want to see the look on her face when I turned up!

pollymere · 20/07/2025 18:33

Ooh... Life is too short for that.

I'd have turned around to my DM and said "So, how come I'm not invited to family events? You know, like your birthday lunch or Dsis meal? I mean, I'd just rather have the reason than all the weak excuses about how far I live away and things. I'm clearly not welcome or I've offended someone so I'd really rather know to be honest."

Praying4Peace · 20/07/2025 18:31

You need honest answers OP.
You have every right to be upset.

tinyspiny · 20/07/2025 18:31

Very mean . I’d be distancing myself at least for a while and that would start by whatsapping your mother now and telling her that you are cancelling tomorrow because you feel very upset about being excluded . Then sit back and see what happens which may well be nothing at all .

Crudd99 · 20/07/2025 18:28

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2025 22:49

I wouldn't drag your mum into it as this was your sister's decision.

I'd probably just get on the WhatsApp group and say something like, "Looks like a great evening, I would've loved an invitation".

I'd expect my mum to say something to me , even if it was to say I wasn't invited. Parents shouldn't have favourites.

riceuten · 20/07/2025 18:28

I’d call your mum first and seek clarification, and proceed accordingly

bloomingbonkerz · 20/07/2025 18:24

That is so mean 😢

Nazzywish · 20/07/2025 18:21

Do you think this is all filtering down from you dm OP? Is she quite toxic and can affect the relationship between siblings. Either way it's awful and I really feel for you.