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Not invited to DSis big birthday

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50FreezeOut1 · 19/07/2025 22:42

My DSis turned 50 yesterday and I've found out today she had a birthday meal out with her friends, my siblings and our parents.

AIBU to be upset at not being invited?

Photos look to be about 10 friends plus DB (no partner at the moment) and DSis+DBIL. Plus DB's son and DSis daughter and son. Plus DM and DF. Plus DSis50 and DBIL and their DDs.

This came as a complete surprise. We caught up at May half term and hung out for a weekend, DSis50, her family and mine. A month or so ago I messaged my siblings to arrange a joint 50th gift which cost me a considerable amount of time and effort. No one mentioned it to me at all.

The reason I'm posting is because I'd like some advice about what I do next. The photos aren't attempting to hide the meal out. Of course I would see them. I'm seeing my DM on Monday to spend the first day of the school holidays together. Do I say something? What do I say to my siblings in our WhatsApp group? Anything? Nothing?

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unbelieveable22 · 20/07/2025 20:38

They don't sound like very nice people, the very opposite of how you come across.
What is disturbing is not only do they find it comfortable to exclude you and your husband but also your children, their grandchildren/niece and nephew. Unacceptable and while they may consider themselves better than you and your family their actions show them as being rude, ignorant and abusive. You all deserve better.

MoveOverToTheSea · 20/07/2025 20:38

@50FreezeOut1 cpuld you have a chat with your aunt about it? I suspect she might be able to shine a light.

But I’m afraid Theres a simple explanation.
you were the black sheep if the family. And still are. No amount of ‘seif improvement’ will have changed that.

You’re also the only one who has ‘strayed’. They all ‘chose’ high paid corporate career. So did you to start with. Your DM is ashamed on how ‘poorly’ (to her!) you’ve done- she can’t boast about what you’ve achieved. That’s the family script. And you’ve broken away from it. For something that nourishes your heart.
It won’t be welcome. People who break the scrip and follow their heart (and integrity) are never welcome 😢
Your family (siblings and DM) will talk about having different lifes and having nothing in common anymore. But basically you’ve gone too far from the acceptable norm (to them).

I feel for you. Realising that your own family just doesn’t like you, or that your DM isn’t proud of you because you chose a different road is heartbreaking.
I hope you’ll find some peace and can stay in contact with the rest of the family.

Cavalierorwhat · 20/07/2025 20:34

Just a consideration but could it be that they have some sort of aversion to your husband attending their gatherings? There doesn’t appear to be an obvious reason not to invite you.

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/07/2025 20:33

The only way you will know if to ask
whether you do on the group so all see answers

or

go and see and ask face to face

Lbet · 20/07/2025 20:33

MoveOverToTheSea · 20/07/2025 08:30

Yes but sometimes you have to be the bigger person and let things go for your own sanity.

@Lbet Being the bigger person doesn’t mean being a carpet everyone is walking on.
It means not stooping at their level (of pettiness etc….)
You can still hold people accountable and have boundaries!

Edited

By Ignoring this behaviour and getting on with your life does not make you a carpet to be walked over. It is making the family know that you couldn’t give two hoots if you wasn’t invited to their gatherings.

Let them have their way and not invite you, would you really want to be around family that are like that anyway?

Let it go and they will soon come crawling.

Katrinawaves · 20/07/2025 20:32

There is a slightly odd dynamic in my DH’s extended family along these lines @50FreezeOut1

One sister works in healthcare, is quite leftwing with a social conscience and two children who went through the state system. The other sister married a very wealthy man, has never worked, kids are privately educated and have their own ponies, etc, etc. The parents were also wealthy and think the sun shines out of non working daughter’s ass and are embarrassed by the other daughter (though not to the point of not inviting her to family events thankfully). The two sisters though close as children loathe each other now.

This whole sad situation might be nothing more than plain old fashioned snobbery fuelled by your mum’s judgement of your relative successfulness. Shitty and unnecessary though.

No need to rush to do anything. Take your time and maybe see if you can access a bit of therapy to unpack it all. But generally even if you don't end up telling them exactly what you think of them, reassess their values and consider whether they are worth your time and care.

Weepixie · 20/07/2025 20:32

whynotmereally · 19/07/2025 22:57

Just ask your mum “do you know why I wasn’t invited?”

I’d also be inclined to also ask ‘and why did you go along with it.’

Op, they’re horrible to have done this but the sad fact is - your mum doesn’t have your back.

SparklyBrickViper · 20/07/2025 20:26

So hurtful.

I’ve had a similar situation but with the in-laws. After years wondering what we’d done wrong I just realised there wasn’t a seat for us at the table and made my peace with it.

Incidentally this weekend there was a party and we were invited, but I decided to attend a concert instead, and had a fabulous time.

Can understand that you don’t want to be seen as the cause of family fall out (not that I think you are), but for your own sanity I’d keep my distance.

PrissyGalore · 20/07/2025 20:26

I don’t have much to add to this but as a mother of 2 very different children in their 20s who don’t really socialise together, I would be very upset if one of them did this. It’s deliberate and spiteful and I’m bewildered how everyone went along with it-including your own mother. I couldn’t imagine being mean to my kids. Is there anyone in your family who is very dominant-who could possibly have suggested excluding you for whatever reason and railroaded it through? I would have to say something directly to either your mother or sister and explain how hurt you are that a parent /sibling could behave like that. You sound d a completely normal person and I’m sorry.

BruFord · 20/07/2025 20:24

@50FreezeOut1 So it’s not money, you’re not critical of their lifestyles/beliefs, and you haven’t had any fallings-out with anyone.

Then I think that @SquallyShowersLater post probably nails it, even though it makes no sense. 💐

Animatic · 20/07/2025 20:24

OP, my Dad was treated similarly by his family. He studied science (not what my DGP considered a good money-making degree), we had a ok middle class life but nothing like his siblings who were successful businessmen. While my DGM was alive we had to attend all family get-togethers and i hated them, my siblings hated them and my DM hated them (I acutely felt being treated as a poor relation even though objectively we were not poor at all). Grandchildren were also ranked in order of preference based on their parents' perceived worth. All it achieved was me keeping minimal communication with my cousins once I moved away and trying to avoid anything wider family related on that side.
Unfortunately, these things happen through no fault of your own. I bet your DC will start feeling a level of inequality at some point

tinyspiny · 20/07/2025 20:22

You need to be more honest with them and just ask what the issue is , cancelling seeing your mum tomorrow and blaming the weather is a cop out and you are just allowing them to treat you badly .

Desdemonadryeyes · 20/07/2025 20:22

Sorry I didn’t mean to imply you were cash strapped.

TheWonderhorse · 20/07/2025 20:19

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 19:48

Thank you to everyone who has shared their perspective. The questions asked are really helping me to see what it could be. I've taken a long time to reply because I wanted to read lots of people's views before responding. Sometimes on these threads everyone says the same thing on the first couple of pages then different perspectives come through later that can shed different light on the issue. Also I have been out for the day with the DC and didn't want to read the thread whilst with them because it would bring the reality of the situation back to me and make me not very good company.

Answering some questions:

No I don't have a drink problem. I drink the least but not in a judgemental of their drinking way.

We're all full siblings and our DPs are still together.

We live close enough to drive there and drive back in an evening. DH always offers to drive so I can drink with them.

I'm really accommodating with meeting when and where suits them. When the DC were little I gave parameters because of naps but otherwise would make it work.

There is a wealth gap with me the poorest. I chose a vocational career which I absolutely love. They chose corporate highly paid highly stressful roles (although are very senior now so less stress in a way). I'm not bothered that they earn more than me because I made the choice to be happy at work rather than earn a lot. I know you can have both but the corporate career I started in was relentless so over a decade ago I switched out into non corporate and have never regretted it.

Looking particularly at @WhereYouLeftIt explanation. I am the black sheep/scapegoat and have been since I was a child. But I worked really hard at not being controversial or hard work. Hence I now have lots of friends. I'm consciously that nice new version around them because I am acutely self aware.

I feel disappointed rather than angry about this. I'm upset because I don't know what I've done wrong because if I knew I definitely wouldn't have done it or if I knew I would apologise for it.

I'm not more successful in comparison to them. I'd go so far as to say my DM has been embarrassed about my comparative lack of boast-able success in the past. I'm doing what I love, find meaning in my work and can afford a 'normal' lifestyle. By that I mean a mortgaged house, long term doer-upper, bog standard car, 1 foreign holiday a year in a European destination - all different from my new Tesla owning, multiple foreign holiday going, mortgage free siblings. But I'm genuinely not envious because I don't want to do what they do for a living to earn the kind of money you need for those things.

I lived two hours away for a couple of years in my 20s but deliberately moved closer once my Sisters starting having kids so I could be nearby for every family event. In the 20+ years since I have never opted out of one for any reason other than simply not being available e.g. holidays, important prior engagements. I've always bent over backwards to accommodate them and DH fell into line with that when I met him. It was taken as read that's what I needed/wanted to do.

I decided to cancel my Monday with my DM. The weather isn't looking great so I've blamed it on that and suggested other dates later in the holidays to buy me time to decide what to do.

With regards 'there must be more to this. What are you hiding?' please do ask me any direct questions about what might have happened in the past or things I may or may not have done. If there was something obvious to me e.g. my political views then I would include it to help people help me make sense of it. But as I say, I am very aware that there are topics to avoid so I do.

I'm not vegan or over/underweight. I'm neither beautiful nor successful. I have 2 wonderful DC 1DS and 1DD. They are easy to get on with when they come to family events. They are interesting and interested (early teens). I knew DH was the one for me because he was the first of my boyfriends to really get on with my friends and family without any awkwardness. He's easy going and remembers things about people and asks them e.g. how their ski trip was.

I get on particularly well with my DM's Sis who I'm meeting with my DC over the holidays. She was there at the DM 'spontaneous' lunch when I was excluded and afterwards apologised on behalf of everyone who was there and didn't think to invite me. It wasn't necessarily her apology to make per se but I really appreciated that someone there saw it was wrong and apologised that it had happened. That validated my hurt that time.

My Bro missed a Christmas get together last Christmas because of a last minute holiday with his then partner. Sis50 was really annoyed with him not being there for an event she'd organised. But there he was at her 50th not me! (Who was there at Christmas).

This point by @Calliopespa is really helpful in helping me understand the situation more clearly.

I'm sorry but for some reason they don't like having you there - and the feeling is not limited to your Dsis. None of us can say if its justified or not from what we know, but the fact it isn't just your Dsis and the fact they don't enjoy you being at these functions is plain.

You are right. They don't want me there. Which helps make my decision not to be there in future. Knowing they feel this about me would mean I would no longer enjoy it. And knowing they would enjoy it more if I wasn't there makes things so clear. Thank you.

Your last paragraph is sad to read. You've come across really well on the thread so far and I'm sorry you have a family of arseholes.

If you are not hiding a huge backstory where you slept with her husband, your family has no justification for how they did that. They prefer to slap your face than talk it over.

I think they collectively feel better than you because they earn more or something equally pitiful, and you're better off putting your positive energy into people worth your time.

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 20:17

Desdemonadryeyes · 20/07/2025 20:01

From your update, could it be they think you can’t afford the place they were eating?

I'm absolutely not one to plead poverty. I know people who would love to afford a meal out or foreign holiday so I don't want to give the impression I can't afford things. It's just relative to them I'm less well off. NOT the correct figures but think me £50k Vs them £100k salaries.

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SquallyShowersLater · 20/07/2025 20:16

I'm sorry but for some reason they don't like having you there - and the feeling is not limited to your Dsis. None of us can say if its justified or not from what we know, but the fact it isn't just your Dsis and the fact they don't enjoy you being at these functions is plain.

Having read all of your posts on the thread, I can only echo this above. But honestly, I am baffled as to what their reasons could be. You have been very open and forthcoming with all the questioned fired at you, you seem self-aware, sane, likeable, normal, well behaved in public, even if you do have slightly different priorities political values and a more laid back lifestyle, you haven't got two heads and you don't seem to have any major red flags about you that might make you an absolute PITA at parties. I am at a loss. It must be hurtful and bewildering for you. I think you should get one of them, either your mother or your sister and just demand to know why they do this to you.

PopeJoan2 · 20/07/2025 20:15

Jillybloop393 · 20/07/2025 20:03

I think I'd probably do this. I'm not saying it's the correct thing necessarily, but I think it's how I'd react. I'd be very, very hurt, and not sure I'd be able to forgive them all, especially the sis.

I have a feeling that op isn’t the kind of person who could send a text like this but she really should send it. Exactly as written. I bet she would be given more respect. I have found that sadly it doesn’t pay to be “nice”.

MaryBeardsShoes · 20/07/2025 20:11

Hi OP, I’ve read your posts, but not the whole of the thread. I just wanted to say that I’m always cut out of family events (and it’s only me and one sibling). I have gone over and over why, putting myself down as too boring, or sensitive, or uncool, but I eventually decided to accept that it is what it is. That was for my own peace of mind. I wish I had a close family, but I don’t and that’s not through lack of trying on my part. There’s no point questioning as it will be “my fault.”

Anyway, I have a lovely husband, wonderful friendship networks, and a good career.

Fuck em.

GiveDogBone · 20/07/2025 20:10

Ok, this is absolutely awful behaviour, it’s not like your absence wouldn’t have been noticed and talked about. Clearly there’s an underlying issue here, and your mother is the perfect person to intermediate, it seems like your sister is unwilling to discuss anything with you directly.

Focusispower · 20/07/2025 20:10

You sound like a lovely person, @50FreezeOut1 and your family do not sound like lovely or good people. I’m really sorry they’ve been like this.

My own family have been disappointing in a different way but the outcome is similar in that my parents just aren’t very interested in me or my children. It doesn’t matter how you deal with it - it still feels hurtful. You have my sympathies. I’ve found like much easier to enjoy my life and let go when I think of my family as just ordinary people who make bad choices and that their behaviour is not a personal thing.

TheEveningReport · 20/07/2025 20:08

I know they are your family but what absolute bastards. I’m so sorry OP, you sound very lovely. They, on the other hand…

Jillybloop393 · 20/07/2025 20:03

Anonimummy · 20/07/2025 02:14

I’m sorry OP. They are deliberately excluding you as evident from your DM’s lunch that you’ve updated on. Not even given a thank you for your sister’s birthday gift as well and your other siblings didn’t mention the birthday get together despite contributing to the present. No way that was a mistake.

Who do you think is driving this in your family?

They obviously wanted you to find out, and be upset, otherwise why post the pics on a platform they knew you would see them on?

I’d be inclined to post a message on the group WhatsApp along the lines of

‘Well, well, well, another family event
I’ve been excluded from. I don’t know what I’ve done to upset you all that would make you behave like this, you knew it would hurt me and obviously wanted it to which is why you’ve tried to rub my nose in it with the pictures, this is not how a decent family behaves so from now I’ll let you carry on without me and remove myself from this group and this family. Monday’s cancelled btw Mum and I hope Sis50’s present is a constant reminder of what a nasty bitch she was to her sister. Fuck you Freeze xx

I would t give a shit about being blamed for ‘destroying the family’. They don’t sound much of one and I’d have to get what I wanted to say out no matter the consequences.

I think I'd probably do this. I'm not saying it's the correct thing necessarily, but I think it's how I'd react. I'd be very, very hurt, and not sure I'd be able to forgive them all, especially the sis.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 20/07/2025 20:03

Desdemonadryeyes · 20/07/2025 20:01

From your update, could it be they think you can’t afford the place they were eating?

That is what I wondered. But they could have asked and let OP decide for herself.

Desdemonadryeyes · 20/07/2025 20:01

From your update, could it be they think you can’t afford the place they were eating?

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 20/07/2025 19:57

@50FreezeOut1 please dont make any attempts to meet with them. let them contact you in the future, if ever. I doubt they will get in touch and have only been doing so out of duty. better off on your only anyway. you can choose your friends but you cannot choose your family. they are just jumped up snobs.

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