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Not invited to DSis big birthday

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50FreezeOut1 · 19/07/2025 22:42

My DSis turned 50 yesterday and I've found out today she had a birthday meal out with her friends, my siblings and our parents.

AIBU to be upset at not being invited?

Photos look to be about 10 friends plus DB (no partner at the moment) and DSis+DBIL. Plus DB's son and DSis daughter and son. Plus DM and DF. Plus DSis50 and DBIL and their DDs.

This came as a complete surprise. We caught up at May half term and hung out for a weekend, DSis50, her family and mine. A month or so ago I messaged my siblings to arrange a joint 50th gift which cost me a considerable amount of time and effort. No one mentioned it to me at all.

The reason I'm posting is because I'd like some advice about what I do next. The photos aren't attempting to hide the meal out. Of course I would see them. I'm seeing my DM on Monday to spend the first day of the school holidays together. Do I say something? What do I say to my siblings in our WhatsApp group? Anything? Nothing?

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Pipsquiggle · 20/07/2025 07:53

Ohthatsabitshit · 20/07/2025 07:20

I think just stop interacting with them at all. Don’t turn up on Monday, don’t chat, don’t call, just withdraw all contact and don’t explain.

@Ohthatsabitshit I think this is just a terrible idea.

Sounds like OP's family are shit at inviting people who live more than half an hour away. This could be a teachable moment for them.

To ghost them with no explanation is just childish

Tontostitis · 20/07/2025 07:53

SnappyEagle · 20/07/2025 07:51

I’d do this but to the group chat and include the word ‘again.’

I wouldn’t tell them in future you’ll be available and they should invite you; they knew that already, this is excusing them. Again.

The again is the bit here that us really important.

Braygirlnow · 20/07/2025 07:53

Doglamp · 19/07/2025 22:50

That’s very strange. Do you live a long way away from them?
could they all possibly have thought someone else had already invited you?
Do you generally get on?

It really could be this.

BunnyLake · 20/07/2025 07:53

JIMER202 · 20/07/2025 02:32

DO NOT SEE YOUR WITCH OF A MOTHER MONDAY!! if 60 mins is too far to be invited for a meal then whoops too far to see her. I hope you know you’re officially off the hook for looking after when she’s old and needy, but I expect magically 60mins won’t seem so far to your nasty siblings.

I don’t think I’d even tell her, I just wouldn’t turn up or answer her calls. She is as much a part of it by going along with this nasty behaviour.

As they have form I would just go silent on them all from now on.

prelovedusername · 20/07/2025 07:52

pregnantprayingmantis · 20/07/2025 04:08

I’d say something along the lines of;

I saw the happy families performance photos from the dsis birthday dinner. It was pretty spiteful to leave me out again with no explanation.

I’ll be stepping back from you all as I choose to spend my time and energy with those who respect and care about me. Please note I won’t be organising or contributing to any further family gifts either.

I wouldn’t say this, it sounds petty and flouncy (but ok to feel it!)

Ask your DM, “that’s twice I haven’t been invited to a big event, Mum, your birthday and now DSis’s. Why?” If she makes excuses again I would challenge them, this is your DM not a friend or neighbour, you should be able to be frank as long as you’re not too confrontational.

I’m very sorry because exclusion is miserable, they obviously have reasons not to invite you that they know are unreasonable, it’s still shitty of them.

SnappyEagle · 20/07/2025 07:51

5128gap · 20/07/2025 07:49

Go direct. "Saw your birthday pics on FB. Got to be honest, I was surprised not to have been invited. Was there a reason?" Life is way too short to faff around hinting, being PA, involving other people and cranking up the talk behind people's backs machine. It's your sister. Ask her.

I’d do this but to the group chat and include the word ‘again.’

I wouldn’t tell them in future you’ll be available and they should invite you; they knew that already, this is excusing them. Again.

Coconutter24 · 20/07/2025 07:50

Soulfulunfurling · 20/07/2025 07:47

What difference would that make? The lack of an invite is nothing to do with the distance.

That was one of the excuses her family gave

Nomdejeur · 20/07/2025 07:50

How completely shit of them.

5128gap · 20/07/2025 07:49

Go direct. "Saw your birthday pics on FB. Got to be honest, I was surprised not to have been invited. Was there a reason?" Life is way too short to faff around hinting, being PA, involving other people and cranking up the talk behind people's backs machine. It's your sister. Ask her.

PreciousTatas · 20/07/2025 07:47

You haven't mentioned it op but are you half siblings? I know when I was younger I'd just say we were all full siblings.

I only ask because when I was younger I would proudly tell everyone about my huge family and all my sisters and brothers (5 in total). They were all a bit older than me (my nieces and nephews are all my age) but I thought we were really close. We would all holiday together, every special occasion was spent as a big group etc.

Until I turned 16 and stopped being the accessory my mum took along with her.

Suddenly I was not invited to the big holidays, Christmas, hen nights/weddings etc. Only to some things other non family came to where they liked to bulk out the numbers (big BBQ's). They didn't act mean when I saw them, just said a lot of things like 'Oh we just didn't think you would want to go'.

I was once invited to my sisters house and she was showing me all of the large photos of the family she'd had put up. I nodded, and though I did notice everyone else had one but me I didn't say anything. She then pointed out the one of me she had, it was in the downstairs guest toilet.

It stung to realise I'd never really been considered family at all by the people I loved, and I've distanced myself from them since.

Soulfulunfurling · 20/07/2025 07:47

Coconutter24 · 20/07/2025 07:41

“Dear group chat, please do not make the assumption that I won’t attend gatherings because I live an hour away. I can decide that for myself and can arrange my own time to make things work”

What difference would that make? The lack of an invite is nothing to do with the distance.

ExploringDreams · 20/07/2025 07:46

You won’t be destroying the family unit - it seems like they don’t consider you a part of it anyway.
Sorry your family treat you like this but they have something against you.

2Rebecca · 20/07/2025 07:44

I would still phone the sister. It looks as though they have form for not inviting you. The distance may be part of the issue. Some people are very parochial and see 60 minutes as a huge drive where as to others it’s a daily commute and you could have driven home again unless you would have insisted on drinking and staying with someone. Do you overorganise people? Maybe they had their own ideas for presents and resented being dragged in to yours. I would want to know what is going on but would probably think of them differently and see less of them

Coconutter24 · 20/07/2025 07:41

“Dear group chat, please do not make the assumption that I won’t attend gatherings because I live an hour away. I can decide that for myself and can arrange my own time to make things work”

Lafufufu · 20/07/2025 07:41

So hurtful but you cant change it.

DONT GO SEE YOUR MUM!

i dont have the answer but Its interesting you already know you will be the villian not your Dsis and thst you also know your DM / DF / whoever haven't read the riot act and like "where is freeze??? Dsis What's wrong with you ?!?!?"

This is death by a thousand cuts

Whatever happens...

i would have a flat tyre and be unable to visit DM monday - if she can be bothered to make a 2 hr round trip to you i might let her.

I'd stop any "nice" gifts that require thought or money for your mum and sister. That includes Christmas aNd birthdays
I wouldn't invite them anywhere or offer help with anything.
Match their nonexistent energy.

If it comes up I'd say something very honest very neutrally / matter of fact "no need to discuss it. the message about my role in the family is very clear"

Pour your energy into your own family unit and good friends

Stormroses · 20/07/2025 07:38

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2025 23:05

Why do so many people want to drag the mum into it?

It wasn't her birthday.

If the OP is to take it up with anyone, it should be her sister.

They're both adults, not two little girls who needs their mum to sort out their squabbles.

Because the parents are complicit in what looks like quite a cruel move. As a parent of adult children, I would not play along with this sort of manipulation. And OP is likely to get a more direct answer from a parent than the sister who excluded her.

I'd expect there to be some really massive backstory, e.g. an excluded sibling drinks too much and causes fights, or always manipulates situations to be about them, such as announcing an engagement or pregnancy on someone else's birthday. Not saying OP does this, but I'd expect at least that level of attention seeking before leaving one person out.

Flossflower · 20/07/2025 07:35

on the face of it, it sounds awful. Is there some reason like you need someone to put you up or a lift if you stay?

unbelieveable22 · 20/07/2025 07:32

Put one message on the family chat saying you have seen the photos and noting that this is the second time you have not been included in a significant family event in recent times. You accepted it the first time but this time it seems deliberate. You regret that if there had been any issue that not one of them addressed it. Instead there was a deliberate effort to publicly embarass and humiliate you (and your family). You are saddened that they allowed you to organise the present and not one said a word about the celebration.
Do not enter into any further dialogue including meeting with your mother tomorrow as this gives them a further opportunity to bully and isolate you. Do you have partner and children @50FreezeOut1 ? Think of the message your parents and extended family are sending to them. The nastiness stops now. Unfortunately the damage has already been done. Do not let it fester and deteriorate further.

Pipsquiggle · 20/07/2025 07:25

@50FreezeOut1 what would you like the outcome of this to be?
Ongoing to be invited to all big family events?
Them to acknowledge that they've behaved poorly?

I live away from the rest of my family (about 3 and a half hours), I don't get invited to Sunday lunches etc but I do get invited to big events/birthdays. Less than an hour away is nothing.

Are your family one of those that unless you live around the corner they think it's too much of an effort for you to make it? I do know families like this who essentially think that moving further away they no longer feel the need to include that family member.

In which case, you are going to have to make it clear to ALL of them that of course you would have come to the 50th birthday lunch. That an hour away is not that far. That being excluded has made you feel very sad as you love them and want to be included particularly for birthdays.

Personally I would meet your mum and ask how the birthday lunch was and I would ask her why she thinks you weren't invited. See if it is the above.

If you can ring them all individually, I would. If not I would write on the family WhatsApp 2 messages.
1 saying hope you all had a lovely lunch out and that DSIs had a great birthday.

The second outlining:
Dear family, I was really upset to not be invited to the birthday lunch, I know I live slightly further away but I always would prioritise my family's birthdays / celebrations. Ongoing please could I be invited. If I have done something that has offended you, please let me know as at the moment I have no idea why I wouldn't be invited. I love you all and would like to be invited to family birthdays / events. I may not be able to attend them all but I will try to make it work. Lots of love.......

CinnamonBuns67 · 20/07/2025 07:22

Yanbu I'd feel very hurt. I'd be taking it up directly with my sister, see who organised it because it might not even be her who organised it. Then I'd be speaking to the person who organised it.

Ohthatsabitshit · 20/07/2025 07:20

I think just stop interacting with them at all. Don’t turn up on Monday, don’t chat, don’t call, just withdraw all contact and don’t explain.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 20/07/2025 07:18

They are toxic.

If it were me, I'd need to challenge DSis about this. Make your feelings clear, then walk away. Easier said than done though.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/07/2025 07:17

50FreezeOut1 · 20/07/2025 01:20

Really appreciate all the posts and perspectives. I'm still not sure what I'm going to do but everyone's input, even if completely different, helps me understand how I feel about each suggestion. A few points of clarity:

They live within 10-30 minutes of each other. I live 60 minutes away.
It wasn't mentioned in the family WhatsApp group so everyone must have been invited individually or in another group I'm not aware of.
I got the present delivered to my BIL so she would have it on the morning of her birthday. So she's had it already. No message of thanks received for it yet.
My other Sis and B were in the present group and contributed so knew about it but still didn't think to mention the party.
We see each other about 6 times a year usually. I thought we'd next see each other for her birthday but as it was the first evening of the summer holidays and I know she likes to travel I wondered if she'd gone to Vegas or somewhere memorable for it instead of a get together. It was another family member's birthday in May so it's a normal thing in our family to get together for meals for birthdays.

I didn't want to mention it in my original post so I could get clear perspectives on this incident as a stand alone event. But for my DM's big birthday 3 years ago I was excluded from her actual birthday lunch. She did have a party organised for the next day and I was invited to and did go to that. But at that party my siblings were talking about the lunch they'd had for her actual birthday. I was flabbergasted because I'd suggested me leaving early from work and us all going out for lunch. They live closer so could even have done it on their lunch break but I needed more planning. They literally ignored that message and the next message on the group was a few days later, something banal about a TV programme or something. So I'd tried to organise lunch and was met with silence. Then apparently on the day they all spontaneously decided to take her out and no-one invited me. My DM even specifically messaged my other Sis to invite her when Bro and Sis50 had messaged her about lunch. Wouldn't want Sis to be left out but nevermind Freeze! Apparently that's because I live 'too far away' (60 mins - 50 without traffic) but I have an early finish one day a week and could easily have swapped even on the day. My work is very flexible.

So yes. There is form there but I was very hurt when it happened 3 years ago. I ended up crying in the toilets (trying not to ruin DM's party) but then next day I did ask all of them why I wasn't invited and the excuses were as above. And pretty poor.

I did ask last time and the excuses were unconvincing. I want to be direct and ask Sis50 but that might be the trip switch that blows up the whole extended family unit forever and guess who'd get blamed for that?

I am a very normal, friendly helpful person. Help out on the PTA etc. Make new friends easily as I'm sociable in an appropriate way (not a babbler etc). Am liked throughout the extended family. But not by my siblings it would seem. We do have different political opinions (me Lab them Tory) but I am very socially aware and don't ever bring politics up with anyone unless they do.

I don't want to be the one blamed for destroying the e.g. 'Edgeworth' family unit but I don't know how to respond to this without it all blowing up in my face and it all being blamed on me.

Honestly? You sound lovely and they sound dreadful, mean and petty, including your mother. You need to distance yourself from all of them. It's happening anyway and it would give you some agency and sense of control, rather than just allowing them to sideline and exclude you. Any decent mother would be upset about one of her children being regularly excluded, but your mum doesn't seem to care and even seems to actively facilitate it.

Leave them all to it. You deserve much better than the family you have got. Also, try not to get sucked back in when your mum needs more care and support as she ages. I bet your siblings will definitely want you to be involved in this, but harden your heart and refuse. They don't want you as part of the family and actions have consequences.

Muffinmam · 20/07/2025 07:16

Tontostitis · 20/07/2025 06:42

Doing this to you once was nasty and unkind doing it twice is unforgivable. Id message the WhatsApp group saying so, cancel plans with DM and leave the WhatsApp group 24 hrs later. I'd not contact any of them again and leave the ball in their court.

I would block every single one of them and assume the relationship is over.

They made their choice that she is not family.

I was excluded from a funeral of a family member. I wasn’t invited and I was told I was not to come when I asked about it. I haven’t seen my family since. It was deliberate and cruel. I wasn’t invited and told it was “private”.

Prior to that I wasn’t invited to a birthday for a parent. I thought it was an oversight so I asked if I could come. Turns out I was deliberately not invited. There was a pause before my relative told me that I could come and on the day there was all this tension and my relative screamed at all of us. Afterwards I was told I was deliberately not invited. The tension was all them. They didn’t want me there so everyone was on edge. There had been no major falling out. I just wasn’t wanted.

MyDeftDuck · 20/07/2025 07:12

I would be upset and hurt too, particularly as you had contributed to a joint gift with your siblings for DS. And I wouldn’t be able to hold this in either, I would definitely be asking why I wasn’t invited.