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Husband got v close to school mum

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LDFem · 19/07/2025 19:51

So my husband and I struck up a friendship with a mum at the school (kids in same class) whose partner is rarely around (works 7 days a week). At first it was all 3 of us as friends along with other parents. Quickly it turned into the 2 of them messaging each other, going for coffee, going to the woods and even my husband invited her over for a play date with her youngest while our kids were at school. I said it had started to make me feel uncomfortable. That was April 2024. He dismissed my feelings and ignored my boundaries pretending that I had said I just wanted to know when they were speaking in June 2024 while I was on a work trip, knowing I had said any regular contact beyond exchanges with other parents made me uncomfortable. Fast forward to now and another parent has flagged that she feels they are very close (I hadn’t spoken to anyone except him about it) - he does the majority of the school runs - and she was warning me to watch out. I told him about this conversation and that I felt like all this time later, for another parent to notice suggests there is something to notice. He has once again gaslit me, said there is nothing going on, etc and in a way said he “had a friend” but now “everyone is monitoring him”. There is absolutely no seeing my perspective (even though I had male friends when we met and he hated it so I stopped those friendships, and I am not insecure generally - it’s this one individual who the alarm bells ring for). We haven’t spoken in days and I am read at to call it quits after 14 years. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Any advice on how to separate or did you somehow stay with someone who ignores your boundaries and acts like you’re crazy? Thanks

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DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/01/2026 21:06

I would be strongly encouraging him to get a job so that a. He can't claim primary carer and b. You won't be the only one doing all home shit and the only one earning money and c. There will be less interaction with this woman

GeishaTrumpet · 23/01/2026 20:58

Deceivedandhurt · 23/01/2026 20:53

I had this happen to me a school mum with 3 kids also said she was envious of my life 3 years ago as her husband was FIFO. I went away for a work event for 2 nights they had dinner 2 nights in row I expressed I

This post hasn’t been updated by OP since August last year.

Deceivedandhurt · 23/01/2026 20:53

I had this happen to me a school mum with 3 kids also said she was envious of my life 3 years ago as her husband was FIFO. I went away for a work event for 2 nights they had dinner 2 nights in row I expressed I

AnonAnonmystery · 01/08/2025 06:46

I think the only advice I can give is have seperate therapy for yourself as well as the couples counselling.

You will only be able to rebuild trust if he’s 100% honest and then you build up from ground zero.

On a very practical note, your DH needs a job to keep him busy in the day. So there is some kind of guarantee that he’s not doing play dates in the woods or whatever other nonsense he was up to. Also on a strategic point, if things don’t work out, he’s not taking half your pension ect.

I hope it works out. Chasing divorce or to stay together as equally hard at this point x

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 31/07/2025 21:51

I’ve been thinking of you too. It’s good to hear you’re okay. You don’t have to make any decisions in a hurry. Take care.

LDFem · 31/07/2025 21:10

TwoUnderTwitTwoo · 31/07/2025 20:57

How are you doing @LDFem? I hope you’re okay and getting some support.

Thank you! I’m not really sure at this point; he is clearly making more effort and agreed to see a professional together…with the school holidays it’s easier to distance from the dramas with the other woman too. Advice I’ve received suggests it would indeed be complicated to uncouple and at this point I’m just weighing up options and getting my ducks in a row regardless of the outcome. I still love him, but that definitely isn’t enough of a reason to tolerate past behaviour. We shall see! Thanks for checking in x

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TwoUnderTwitTwoo · 31/07/2025 20:57

How are you doing @LDFem? I hope you’re okay and getting some support.

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 26/07/2025 15:22

DorothyStorm · 24/07/2025 07:00

Keep in mind that he did not suffer remorse snd regret due to the guilt of shagging another woman for five years. He was having the time of his life! The regret was at being caught shagging another woman. The regret was in his actions not being good enough to keep it hidden. His failure was fhe Regret.

The remorse was the impact being caught had on that poster. It wasnt remose about his actions. Before being caught there wasn't remorse. He wouldnt have felt that remorse if he hadnt been caught.

I know this.
I hold the mirror up to him often, quoting the sordid specifics of his reality V my reality.
It’s not pretty.
He said he compartmentalised. It was all about the sex. With Viagra, he started to feel like a man again. 🤮 (no, we had never tried it)
He is ashamed and does regret it.

He had a choice to run off into the sunset with “the slag” (her husband’s words when I called him to tell him of the affair, apparently not her 1st affair FWIW)
It would be OW dream if he had run off with her.

He is showing regret and remorse now thru his actions.

Time will tell.

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 26/07/2025 14:17

clarification re above

when I say “ ending it”
I am referring to the marriage.

My husband was stuck to his phone for 5 years. He wouldn’t have even let me check the weather app on it.
Hell would freeze over before he would ever have given me his passcode, either B4 or during the affair.
Giving me full access is a massive shift in wanting to try to rebuild.

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 26/07/2025 11:38

LDFem · 23/07/2025 20:56

Thank you. If you don’t mind me asking did you find a way to forgive and stay with him after discovering all of this?

I am still with him now. I don’t know that I will ever forgive and I don’t give the “forgiving” any headspace. That may or it may not come in time.
He emotionally pushed me away during those 5 years and became difficult and distant.
We spent more time ignoring each other than we did communicating.
It was obvious that something was wrong but he refused to communicate with me. I put it down to his very stressful job and the effects of his blood pressure meds.
The classic cheating signs / behaviours were all very much there but I never once thought he was, it never crossed my mind. He was the last person you would ever expect to cheat (😂😥) Also he has ED which I knew he found incredibly difficult to talk about. (Or so I thought !!!!)

They were indeed very active - hotels after frequent work events. He was using Viagra.

I was traumatised when I found out.

The affair finished the night I found out.
He suddenly stopped all the regular night outs and many work social events. His choice.
He calls me from work each day.
We go on weekly date nights. We are together and engaged at home. He works from home more often. We’ve had 4 holidays in the last 7 months.
On the face of it, I could be living my best life …. at a cost of knowing and trying to deal with his deep betrayal.
He's given me passcodes to his phone - and all his accounts. On the rare occasion he goes out without me, he face times me and includes me in the fun (his choice)

I went for therapy to help me deal with the trauma. Can’t say I found it particularly helpful
We have just started couples therapy.

I was so starved of love and respect for 5 years and to have it suddenly heaped on me, is what stopped me asking him to leave when I found out. He did offer to leave and said I could keep the house. That offer is still there if I want it.

He is putting in a lot of effort however I am still very much struggling. We are having some really amazing times together and our life could not be more different to what it was for five years. I gained access to so much of their communication and it haunts me, although I can now go longer period without thinking about it.
There are times when I flip and focus on the man I now know him to be and what I know him to be capable of and it’s so very ugly and I consider ending it. But those thoughts don’t last long.

I don’t know what our future holds.

You said earlier in your post that his behaviour changed 4 years ago and he stopped helping around the house etc …
My husband’s behaviour definitely changed when he started the affair.

I wish you all the best. Cheating is the most painful thing to uncover.

.

DorothyStorm · 24/07/2025 07:00

LDFem · 23/07/2025 20:56

Thank you. If you don’t mind me asking did you find a way to forgive and stay with him after discovering all of this?

Keep in mind that he did not suffer remorse snd regret due to the guilt of shagging another woman for five years. He was having the time of his life! The regret was at being caught shagging another woman. The regret was in his actions not being good enough to keep it hidden. His failure was fhe Regret.

The remorse was the impact being caught had on that poster. It wasnt remose about his actions. Before being caught there wasn't remorse. He wouldnt have felt that remorse if he hadnt been caught.

Milosc · 23/07/2025 23:05

LDFem · 23/07/2025 20:56

Thank you. If you don’t mind me asking did you find a way to forgive and stay with him after discovering all of this?

Oh please OP, please don't say you are considering staying with this horrible man. He is using you, doesn't care about you and picked another woman over you. He is a selfish and lazy cunt who doesn't give a care about your feelings. Please know you deserve better than this worthless twat. How can you forgive your husband having an affair while you do everything in the relationship? it is a solid no. Get your ducks in a row and get rid. You will be a better mum and be relieved to not carry his dead weight around anymore.

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 23/07/2025 22:56

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 23/07/2025 16:45

Don’t give up on accessing the phone ….
There could be photos saved from watsapp … or indeed any photos
Emails ?
Messages saved under a different name ???
Call logs go back a long way (if not deleted)
You can sometimes retrieve watsapp messages depending how often they were saved …
Access to his bank account / spending habits …..
That’s ultimately how I found out my husband’s 3 year Emotional Affair …… had actually been a 5 year full on physical affair.
It hurts like hell, but you need to know if he’s just an arse or if he’s a cheating arse.
If he has cheated … and sounds very likely … you will be in a much stronger position in knowing. My husband only showed real remorse and regret when I found out it had been physical.

5 years?! What an utter *##~#>!

LDFem · 23/07/2025 20:56

Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 23/07/2025 16:45

Don’t give up on accessing the phone ….
There could be photos saved from watsapp … or indeed any photos
Emails ?
Messages saved under a different name ???
Call logs go back a long way (if not deleted)
You can sometimes retrieve watsapp messages depending how often they were saved …
Access to his bank account / spending habits …..
That’s ultimately how I found out my husband’s 3 year Emotional Affair …… had actually been a 5 year full on physical affair.
It hurts like hell, but you need to know if he’s just an arse or if he’s a cheating arse.
If he has cheated … and sounds very likely … you will be in a much stronger position in knowing. My husband only showed real remorse and regret when I found out it had been physical.

Thank you. If you don’t mind me asking did you find a way to forgive and stay with him after discovering all of this?

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Iwillcomeouttheotherend · 23/07/2025 16:45

Don’t give up on accessing the phone ….
There could be photos saved from watsapp … or indeed any photos
Emails ?
Messages saved under a different name ???
Call logs go back a long way (if not deleted)
You can sometimes retrieve watsapp messages depending how often they were saved …
Access to his bank account / spending habits …..
That’s ultimately how I found out my husband’s 3 year Emotional Affair …… had actually been a 5 year full on physical affair.
It hurts like hell, but you need to know if he’s just an arse or if he’s a cheating arse.
If he has cheated … and sounds very likely … you will be in a much stronger position in knowing. My husband only showed real remorse and regret when I found out it had been physical.

Kirstk · 22/07/2025 20:10

LDFem · 21/07/2025 16:02

He’s just told me he deleted all the messages……

Deleted messages go to a recycle bin for 30days

Pessismistic · 22/07/2025 18:19

Pessismistic · 22/07/2025 18:07

Oh Op what a shitty husband you have. He’s hooked now there friendship should never had come to just these 2. She obviously doesn’t respect you a decent woman would keep you involved. He really is being a selfish bastard. I think you do too much considering your the one working and paying for most things. I would be tempted to just say it’s her or me because I’m done with you. It sounds like he is only useful for school stuff. He is taking advantage of you dictating what you should do he’s lazy selfish disrespectful and probably has feelings for his friend just because a toddler is with them doesn’t mean they can’t get up to anything with her oh being away a lot she will be lonely you need to get something sorted before they both decide there going to be together.

Sorry meant to say you’re not an idiot he is. A lot of women have to let dads do school runs he choosing to make her the priority over you so this is definitely on him and her for letting it happen.

Pessismistic · 22/07/2025 18:07

LDFem · 21/07/2025 19:13

We don’t have a joint account and I pay all but 2 car related bills through my account. For the bills in his account I send him the money to cover them. I’m not sure if that’s a blessing or a curse, he earns minimum wage for the hours he works and keeps the funds to spend on beer typically. I have racked up thousands in debt on both of our behalf but all in my name so am paying that off. The more I write the more I realise I have been so busy and thought we loved each other that I didn’t see all of this laid out. What an idiot.

Oh Op what a shitty husband you have. He’s hooked now there friendship should never had come to just these 2. She obviously doesn’t respect you a decent woman would keep you involved. He really is being a selfish bastard. I think you do too much considering your the one working and paying for most things. I would be tempted to just say it’s her or me because I’m done with you. It sounds like he is only useful for school stuff. He is taking advantage of you dictating what you should do he’s lazy selfish disrespectful and probably has feelings for his friend just because a toddler is with them doesn’t mean they can’t get up to anything with her oh being away a lot she will be lonely you need to get something sorted before they both decide there going to be together.

Zucker · 22/07/2025 13:30

You're not an idiot OP, you thought you were playing on the same team.

He doesn't appreciate how easy you have made his life and he got complacent about it all. He's about to find out though!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 22/07/2025 09:19

@LDFem why are you putting up with a lazy cheat like this?? get rid!

Lafufufu · 22/07/2025 08:01

Bigpakchoi · 22/07/2025 03:28

Brilliant post 👆

I would also add tell him that you have all the debt to repay that you incurred on his behalf and to ensure don't get into financial problems (lose his cushy life) he will need to get back to work - let him pay his own phone - move the phone into his name and don't pay some of his other stuff so he has no beer money left over.

Forgot to say this in my last post but yes this is good too "manage the money" more.

You have realised you pensions are short so more money must go in - your net income is down in main acc so he needs to pay some of his in, his phone needs to be paid for put of his account (important its HIS account) and also netflix and water (or whatever) more over to his account.

in reality Reduce you pension contributions to minimum and stash the delta. With parents siblings? or just as cash.
you can dripfeed back when you need it 5-10k in 2 years time is a very handy amount...

2025ismybestyear · 22/07/2025 07:06

Definitely do not show him this post, or thread. He won't care. He'll think you're a fool. Just plan for a better future for your children and yourself.

Bigpakchoi · 22/07/2025 03:28

Lafufufu · 21/07/2025 21:44

This is 💯 what I was getting at earlier (appreciate there are a lot of messages so probably missed)
Dont kick him out and dont raise it again. Play smart.

Get them in afterschool and breakfast club try and get more flex in your job if possible and do more pickups / dropoffs

Also make sure you are primary contact for school, dentist, GP etc etc.
Make it so he cant argue he is the primary carer and "gave up his career" for the kids

And start saying to him...well the kids are sorted what are you doing with yourself jobwise...

Edited

Brilliant post 👆

I would also add tell him that you have all the debt to repay that you incurred on his behalf and to ensure don't get into financial problems (lose his cushy life) he will need to get back to work - let him pay his own phone - move the phone into his name and don't pay some of his other stuff so he has no beer money left over.

SeriousFaffing · 22/07/2025 00:12

knackredd · 21/07/2025 22:38

If I say anything there is always a response to blame me (asked why he hadn’t tried to talk to me all day and he said ‘why didn’t you try talking to me?’)…It is a never ending cycle and I am absolutely exhausted. How on earth do I get him to see my point of view?

This is a well documented abuse tactic in domestic abuse - its called DARVO - which stands for Defend Attack Reverse Victim and Offender.

You are wasting your breath and exhausting yourself here. Step away. Keep your cards close to your chest and see a lawyer.

@LDFem yes to this and getting your ducks in a row.

I am withdrawing my previous comment - mentally put his stuff in bin bags on the lawn. You’ve got this. Give him nothing, he is not on your side.

ImGoneUnderground · 21/07/2025 23:15

Agree much that for someone (& others) else to even notice this, and feel the need to tell you is a big (huge) red flag. Maybe show him this post & ask again what exactly is going on? Friendly chats at school gates - yes, ok, fair enough. Getting together (in the woods) while children are at school - hell, no.
You do obviously already realise about his previous 'gaslighting' - also 'back to normal in September' isn't normal'.....You feel uncomfortable about this - trust your instincts. Or just ASK him outright what this is about??? With kindness &Good luck 🌹