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To find it sad young women are so ageist towards older women

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ThatNimblePeer · 19/07/2025 15:41

My job involves quite a lot of mentoring of younger colleagues, often women. I’m in my early 40s and they will typically be mid-late 20s. In general I get on well with them and enjoy the mentoring and the conversation, sometimes we’ll become friends and go for coffee. They’re definitely not intentionally being rude, but I find it very striking how many unthinkingly ageist comments towards older women they will make to me when we’re chatting in a more informal way, e.g. criticising or laughing at women in the public eye because they look too ‘old’ or supposedly aren’t looking as good as they used to (e.g. actresses), or with one we got talking about the word ‘spinster’ and how it’s still seen as so negative and she said she thought it was because people associate it with old women (so, obviously awful then!) Tbh I can remember having some of those biases myself at that age, but I feel embarrassed by them now, and I sort of thought this generation of women was seen as more consciously feminist and aware of not putting down other women. I think that’s maybe filtered through in terms of not being unnecessarily competitive with women their own age, but it seems very clear that it hasn’t filtered through to some of their attitudes about older women. I find it sad, not least because it just doesn’t seem to occur to them that they will ‘become’ those older women in the not too distant future, and very much won’t enjoy being written off when that happens. Sometimes I try to gently point that out to them, but I don’t really want to give them a lecture, and tbh it is surprising to me that intelligent young women can’t figure that out for themselves.

AIBU to think that a lot of young women still have pretty unreconstructed attitudes to older women, and to find that surprising and sad in this generation?

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KimberleyClark · 19/07/2025 15:58

I’m 64. When I was in my 20s, in the 80s, there was a much clearer dividing line between young and old. 40 is young now but back then it was considered past it and dressing too young had to be guarded against. I’m glad things have changed in this regard.

the80sweregreat · 19/07/2025 15:56

I had an ex colleague who hated ‘ old people’ in general, but maybe these young bucks will change their minds when they reach their 50s op.
Ageism has always been around though and probably worse now as everyone thinks ‘ boomers’ are all rich and living it up. Many are not.

mbosnz · 19/07/2025 15:53

Well, as you say, when you were their age, you espoused much the same views!

As the old saying goes, you can't put an old head on young shoulders.

It can twinge a bit when you become a part of the demographic you so casually dismissed, particularly when you hear young ones doing the same!

(I'm mid fifties by the way. . .)

RedRock41 · 19/07/2025 15:52

IKWYM. Hard to generalise but you’re right there are some trends. Young women often can be overly fixated on essentially being a decoration. So just judging others by that standard. It’ll not occur to them that by time they’re our age with any luck they won’t care. Plus looks fade for everyone so daft to berate folk for it.
Read a social history book once on a factory, all the young women who were getting married were confident the heady love stage would last for them, they’d be the exception and they would definitely not be like the older women they worked with. The older ones were hilarious… essentially made the point aye good luck with that, we were you once…we thought that too!
+They do say too to be old and wise, we first need to be young and daft. Finding being in 40s and not GAF about aging (better than the alternative!) great so feel a bit sorry for them as don’t miss those years personally.

Threeshortplanks543 · 19/07/2025 15:50

There’s a lot of ageism about that’s for sure.

And I think the negativity towards older women has always been there to a degree, (drowning witches etc) but it’s now been fuelled even more by the increase in on-line misogyny on social media, where women are only seen as sexual objects or someone to serve men in a domestic setting. And I think that some young women have internalised it unfortunately because it’s so ubiquitous.

It’s quite scary actually. The use of the name Karen as an insult is one tiny part but it goes a lot deeper and darker than that unfortunately.

And the obsession about youthful looks and Botox and make-up, purely driven by commerce, starts on TikTok at such a young age. It’s a form of indoctrination.

Where the hell did it all go so wrong? 😪