To think “Side Hustle” can get in the bin?

Agree 100%. I hate hate the term girl boss. Its bullshit. One, im not a fucking girl, im a woman, and two, so im a boss....do we walk around saying boy boss? No we dont.
Agree about the 2nd job thing. The term seems to be saved for women doesn't it..again, never applies to men.

I didn't think ppl said girlboss anymore, thought that was more a 2010s thing. I agree it's cringe. Side hustle doesn't really mean a second job, more something freelance or selling stuff on your own for a bit of supplementary money as I understand it.

I agree it is grating but I have recently come to the conclusion that I need a side huddle (or more realistically a second job). I work full time but just can’t keep up with financial demands. I wish I had some creative side hussle as that makes it sound fun. Unfortunately I don’t have a creative hobby I can turn into a job. Am currently looking for evening or weekend work I can fit around my full time work.

The vast majority make nothing at all. They’re just expensive hobbies wrapped up as side hustles to make it look like an income generating business. I’ve had numerous clients over the decades with what are now ridiculously called side hustles and very few make any worthwhile money. Most are loss making or the person could have earned more in Tesco or the local pub. Most really are for just “pin money”, pocket money or for blokes doing a bit of diy or car repairs, it’s pub money.

Fair enough, I’ve had a few clients turn it into a proper business or worthwhile income stream, but for the vast majority, it’s more of a vanity thing to make them look or feel important. Most just fade away and get forgotten when they lose interest or they have to get a proper second job to earn money after they finally realise they’re earning nothing from the side hustle!

100% agree op.

I wonder how much money is made from so called side hustles.
I made some items and showed them to colleagues who suggested I should give up the day job.
How much would they be prepared to pay - ooh about £20.
It has taken three hours plus to make

Hate the term…

I interpret ‘side hustle’ to be to do with selling goods or a service or hoping to sell in the future (eg catering, crafts, writing or art). As your own business. Different from a second job where you’re paid a wage.

I thought a side hustle was something you did outside of your main job for additional, undeclared income.
You can work part-time then earn cash through side hustles like cleaning, beauty aesthetics, nails, doing basics on people's cars like brakes or bodywork, 3D printing, breeding and selling puppies. If you're on UC you can work minimum hours for that, then get your additional income as well as UC.

When you see GDP trends in the UK and the % economically inactive, I do wonder what it would look like if all this income was in the system.

My side hustle turned into my full-time job, which is about 60% easier than my 'real' job so will hopefully take me up to retirement. I think of it as being semi-retired.

the only way side hustle can have a positive meaning is when this extra stream of income becomes your main one because it becomes more lucrative than your main job or you find you enjoy it more. I hate the girl boss even more

I don’t disagree. I’m fucking exhausted and have no time for a side hustle. I do like @Meadowfinch’s idea of jams etc., but I think that’s probably going to help my mental health more than my bank balance.

I was struck by the poster who said it’s about men minimising the work women do. Applying patronising terminology to undermine the fact women are outperforming them x 2!

@IcanttakethisanymoreI’ve got four on my own! Five between two is more than doable.

But what is wrong with doing this? If you want to make some extra money, and are internet savvy, then why not? Why the judgement? (Not just you, obviously, but definitely on Mumsnet.)

"Hustle" is quite a negative word implying disonesty, fraud or cheating. "Side hustle" sounds dodgy and it surprises me that it's caught on so widely.

"Girl boss" is just annoyingly twee. It's the 2020s, women have been able to be the/ their own bosses for decades. Girly-fying it is disempowering.

There's a bit of a gap in positively describing a second job, particularly if it's around the cusp of being a hobby that pays for itself/ profitable. The internet and social media have changed the range of what people can do as second jobs and their potential earnings from them.

I get your point op.
I think.its ok having a side hustle if it is for fun rather than necessity.

Well I thought " side hustle" was a US term. Perhaps you and the OP are US based so it is commonly used where you are?
Is " girl bossing " a US term as well? It's absolutely cringeworthy and ridiculous imo. I've never heard anyone use it

My side hustle is starting threads on MN about side hustles. The amount there we should get a cut of the advertising revenue.

I'd forgotten about 'pin money'. There's 'moonlighting too. So many odd terms for making a small income.

Am picturing someone hustling/shuffling sideways in pursuit of pins that are sparkling in the light of an enormous moon

I dislike 'side hustle' too. I don't think it is an organic evolution of language. I think it has been artificially boosted by all the inane/misleading/manipulative content encouraging people to join an MLM scheme, flog home-made tat via Etsy etc or slave for a pittance as a gig economy worker.

It's meant to sound kinda cool, as if the exploited and/or deluded hustler is a canny wheeler/dealer making all the smart moves.

For those who have never heard of side hustle...have you been living under a rock?!

The sexist origins of ‘pin money’ grates on me an awful lot more than side hustle tbh!

I have a side job, I do it because I like it and the extra money is spent on fun things rather than day to day living.

Side hustle is just a phrase to make selling stuff on eBay, Vinted etc sound better than it is.

Agree. I work full time and have two kids to spend time with at the evenings and weekends. I’m not giving up the shred of time I have to do what is essentially a second job.

@courageiscontagious I agree - having to do extra work to support your family is increasingly common and a sign that wages are increasingly not covering living costs.