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To think “Side Hustle” can get in the bin?

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courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 05:17

I am so sick of my feed being full of people “girl bossing” their “side hustle” like it’s a good thing.

it feels like propaganda to make us think there is anything empowering about having to work a SECOND JOB in this dumpster fire of an economy.

One generation ago a man could buy a house and support his family on his one income with only a high school education.

Now, my husband and I have five degrees between us and we both have to bust our arses to support fewer children than my parents had.

FUCK SIDE HUSTLE CULTURE. It’s just another way to make us blame ourselves for being poor when there are systemic and structural factors fucking us over.

end rant.

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OneBadKitty · 19/07/2025 09:13

I think it's a bit of a myth that a family could once live on one unskilled workers wage, buy a nice house and raise five kids and go on two holidays a year.

I grew up in the 70s and 80s, my parents were semi-skilled apprentice trained workers and both worked full time for 10 years to buy their house before My brother and I were born. We lived in Yorkshire where property was cheap but they could only afford a 2 up 2 down terrace in need of renovation. There were no foreign holidays, no computers or new Tvs or the latest gadgets, no nice car- we had a second hand cheap Russian Lada, dad spent weekends renovationg the house himself, we wore second hand clothes, had second hand bikes and played at the local park. We never ate out, no takeaways, cooking was all from scratch on a tight budget, no childcare and mum went back to work as soon as we started school. I had to share a small bedroom with my brother.

Most families on low paid jobs lived in rented, council houses or very small houses without all the mod cons in the 70s and 80s. I remember most of my friend's mums working at least part time in those days once children were at school.

Families expect to have a lot more now.

Crushed23 · 19/07/2025 09:13

ThejoyofNC · 19/07/2025 06:39

I think you're conflating two issues. "Girl boss/side hustle" culture is all MLM slang and nobody is earning anything from them. Most lose money.

The fact two incomes are needed is a whole other story.

No, it’s nothing to do with MLM. It’s a small, side job one does alongside their main job to make extra money. Though it shows enterprise and resourcefulness, in many cases it distracts so much from the main hustle that people don’t progress as quickly in their career. Where I work we ban people from being employed anywhere else and side hustles have to be declared and you must confirm that they do not detract time and attention from your job (and strictly can’t be done during work hours).

2021x · 19/07/2025 09:12

”Girl Boss” is predatory language used by MLMs (thanks Hannah Alonso and Kiki Chanel).

“Side Hustle” is that shitty hustle culture
perpetuates by people like the “Diary of a CEO” dude who is not as good at business as he thinks he is. All bathe your face in ice water and get up at 5am. It’s just sales and nothing else.

“Lean-in” is what pisses me off.

SpookyMcTaggart · 19/07/2025 09:10

Insomniapain · 19/07/2025 07:43

Well I thought " side hustle" was a US term. Perhaps you and the OP are US based so it is commonly used where you are?
Is " girl bossing " a US term as well? It's absolutely cringeworthy and ridiculous imo. I've never heard anyone use it

Yes you're right, I think these are US terms, though they have probably crossed the Atlantic by now like a lot of American terminology.

LaurieFairyCake · 19/07/2025 09:07

Agree with OP. Dh currently has 4 jobs in order to bring in enough money and I had two almost full time jobs until recently. We were fucked by the 35 day Liz Truss debacle and our mortgage went up £800 in 6 months.

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 09:07

Biskieboo · 19/07/2025 08:59

Yeah it is annoying. One time in one hundred somebody's 'side hustle' will be a) something they enjoy, and b) lucrative, but most of the time it's just glamorising being on the bones of your arse. See also 'van life' as previously mentioned.

Van life = absolutely.

trying to romanticise poverty.

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stayathomer · 19/07/2025 09:06

I’m an author and the side hustle is a huge way of life- a number of people use side hustle just as a way to get by because books don’t make them money. This can be anything from motivation of other writers, running writing retreats, proofreading, recording audio for audiobooks for others, ghostwriting. Some make money from TikTok or you tube, some life coach because they got through tough times and want to help others. Some seem more worthy than others (in particular my friend gets shit from everyone on being a life coach but actually she’s gotten people out of funks and helped them move on with life).

People are willing to pay for their Netflix, phones, apps etc every money, I think as long as people aren’t preyed on or taken advantage of, that’s when I think side hustles aren’t ok. Otherwise yes it’s so hard to make money now so I think to each their own.

ps I love girl boss, it gets me through the nights I’m up writing at 2 in the morning with work the following day as the kids sleep, hoping some day that my books will sell the way they sometimes do!

LaurieFairyCake · 19/07/2025 09:06

Pin money was also literally to buy hair pins, there are millions of them in the Thames. Only women needed them so it then represented what women needed personally.

soupyspoon · 19/07/2025 09:02

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 05:17

I am so sick of my feed being full of people “girl bossing” their “side hustle” like it’s a good thing.

it feels like propaganda to make us think there is anything empowering about having to work a SECOND JOB in this dumpster fire of an economy.

One generation ago a man could buy a house and support his family on his one income with only a high school education.

Now, my husband and I have five degrees between us and we both have to bust our arses to support fewer children than my parents had.

FUCK SIDE HUSTLE CULTURE. It’s just another way to make us blame ourselves for being poor when there are systemic and structural factors fucking us over.

end rant.

I think you're talking about a particular demographic years ago with just the one job, that certainly didnt apply to our family in the 70s, 80s and 90s, my mum did cleaning jobs, baby sitting, part time jobs.

Most people I know, including me have always had lots of other jobs, part time jobs on top of our main jobs. This isnt new and isnt about 'this' economy

Biskieboo · 19/07/2025 08:59

Yeah it is annoying. One time in one hundred somebody's 'side hustle' will be a) something they enjoy, and b) lucrative, but most of the time it's just glamorising being on the bones of your arse. See also 'van life' as previously mentioned.

Helpagirlyout · 19/07/2025 08:56

Absolutely agree! I work a FT job and it just isn't enough anymore, recently started an additional job 16 hours a week. My partner also works an additional job every Sunday. This is no way to live! I'm SO exhausted.
Most of the people I meet at my new job are doing additional work too. I overheard one of the guys say he needs to make X amount deliverooing this week so he can do a food shop. What on earth.

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 08:49

PuppyMonkey · 19/07/2025 08:47

I can’t be arsed to Google it, what’s the origin of pin money please?

The money a woman earns that she can spend on trinkets.

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courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 08:49

healthybychristmas · 19/07/2025 08:47

Maybe each has a degree and a masters and one of them has a PhD?

I have two bachelors and one masters and DH has two bachelors.

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YourUglySister · 19/07/2025 08:48

My main hustle almost kills me most weeks tbh, I can’t even countenance another job right now. Grin

PuppyMonkey · 19/07/2025 08:47

I can’t be arsed to Google it, what’s the origin of pin money please?

healthybychristmas · 19/07/2025 08:47

Icanttakethisanymore · 19/07/2025 06:49

Missing the point but what 5 degree do you have between you?

Maybe each has a degree and a masters and one of them has a PhD?

psuedocream3 · 19/07/2025 08:43

Well they are different issues though.

I have a 'side hustle' which I enjoy and isn't done because I need extra money to bridge an income gap. I would describe that as a side hustle. If I had a second job working a supermarket shift, I wouldn't call it a side hustle.

Not earning enough money can get in the bin, and girl boss is MLM language to suck people in, not a fan.

I don't have any negative connotations with the word hustle, just means busy to me, as in, hustle and bustle.

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 08:35

dayslikethese1 · 19/07/2025 08:19

I didn't think ppl said girlboss anymore, thought that was more a 2010s thing. I agree it's cringe. Side hustle doesn't really mean a second job, more something freelance or selling stuff on your own for a bit of supplementary money as I understand it.

I have a colleague delivering food in the evenings. A friend who fills out nonsense surveys.

I have a second job marking university assignments. It’s fine I’m just so burnt out- work all day, parent small children, finally get them to bed….and log on to read and correct 20 essays. Get to bed at midnight and do it all again, while my baby boomer parents criticise me for having my children in nursery instead of a nanny, and for not taking one of the children to speech therapy as often as recommended, and for not saving enough to send them to private school.

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babasaclover · 19/07/2025 08:35

I’m with you. It’s completely ridiculous how much everything costs - absolutely people are working harder and for less - house prices are a joke!!

millymollymoomoo · 19/07/2025 08:33

Not one generation ago they couldn’t. 3 generations ago perhaps.

but the issue if house price inflation vs wage inflation is a very real one

Isitreallysohard · 19/07/2025 08:33

Yeah, you're actually right. It's basically a second job and ain't nothing cool about that! 🤨 Not to mention hustle is so not used correctly.

Boredlass · 19/07/2025 08:32

I have a ‘side hustle’. I have a business on EBay but I don’t need the money. I do it for fun. I don’t called it a side hustle though, it’s just a hobby. The term doesn’t bother me

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 08:31

Icanttakethisanymore · 19/07/2025 06:49

Missing the point but what 5 degree do you have between you?

I don’t want to out myself but they’re proper degrees that have us gainfully employed in professional jobs.

We have food on the table, we are luckier than many but our standard of living is nothing like my parents’ was at the same age.

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ExpressCheckout · 19/07/2025 08:30

Hmmm. For me, I do wonder how many of these 'side hustles' earning over £1000/p.a. are being reported to HMRC as required. If not, it's tax evasion.

Like others, I'm not sure what "Girl boss" means. This said, I was brought up when Mrs Thatcher was PM, so, yes, we know that women can take charge 🙄

courageiscontagious · 19/07/2025 08:28

superplumb · 19/07/2025 08:22

Agree 100%. I hate hate the term girl boss. Its bullshit. One, im not a fucking girl, im a woman, and two, so im a boss....do we walk around saying boy boss? No we dont.
Agree about the 2nd job thing. The term seems to be saved for women doesn't it..again, never applies to men.

So true, always women coming home from their 9-5 to wash and fold other people’s laundry.

it reminds me of Charlie bucket’s mother!

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