To think “Side Hustle” can get in the bin?

Having two jobs was exhausting. I certainly didn't call the evening/weekend one a 'hustle' of any description.
The phrasing reminds me of MLMs. Gullible people ripping off other gullible people.

Agree!

I also think it will be holding people back from progressing in their real jobs if they have “side hustles”, as they won’t be focussing on it properly. So it may cost people in the long term to be doing this less well paid extra work.

It's more that I've seen girl math in the context of spending money on make up and clothes, which seems a bit rubbish

I know the term " side hustle". But I've never heard anyone use it irl.
I didn't know the expression " girl bossing" - thank goodness. It's absolutely cringeworthy.
No I don't live under a rock. I just don't mix with people who use that type of language.

Most of the people I mix with use either standard English or Scottish words and dialect . Not American slang.

Is it? What context makes it all right?

I’ll give you most of these, but “girl math” is fine because of its context. I’ve also seen boy math, teen math, dog math etc.

I’m in the U.K., and if you haven’t heard either of these terms you must have been living under a rock.

Is it just people don't like to say they have a second job? Like "side hustle" somehow makes it more glamorous, rather than they really need some extra money to get by? I also don't like "girl boss", "mumpreneur" etc, it sounds so demeaning. Is a girl boss somehow less of a boss than a "boss"? And then "girl math" etc, feels like women are going backwards

Agree

God yes! I read something about this in the paper the other day that really pissed me off. It was actually an article about people who had turned a hobby into a career but at the end there were some tips from a so-called expert about how to achieve this if you don’t have a hobby (what kind of weirdo doesn’t have a hobby lol?). Anyway, one of the suggestions was a “drop shipping” business where you take orders online and then the goods get shipped to the customers directly from an overseas supplier. To me that just sums up so much that’s wrong with the world - wanting to make money without having any skills or talent, selling people crap they don’t need, shipping stuff that people don’t need from the other side of the world. I’m assuming most of these “side hustles” involve something similar.

You’d think if most people worked out how much money they make from their side hustle per hour of time invested, they’re working for less than minimum wage. Don’t let it bother you. Enjoy your spare time with the family.

The underlying problem is well documented, and the cause well known. Too many people chasing too few properties. Then it becomes as arms race, as soon as one family unit takes two jobs, then they can outcompete those who don’t. At which point, everybody starts doing it, and then you’re back at square one, but with everybody working harder. And the only people who benefit are those that have been on the property ladder for decades.

I'd heard side hustle never heard mumpreneur. I think I prefer side hustle but that might be familiarity.

Car prices in 1970 didn't bother me, we were married for 14 years before we got a car. I mean one car not one each.

I live in a small to medium town and I'm thinking of getting rid of my car as the buses are fine.

I hate that expression my business skills have absolutely sweet fa to do with being a mum.

Is up there with mumpreneur

Well not really. It's a bit difficult these days to buy a house with an outhouse instead of a fitted bathroom. Most mortgage lenders won't lend on a property without a fitted kitchen, either. So you have to buy a house that has these. Lots of houses just happen to have ensuites, the designers of newbuilds don't survey people, they just build them like that.
I'd also like to see what Social Services said about a family living in a house fit for the 1920s with an outhouse and no fitted kitchen, double glazing, electricity, indoor running water or central heating.

It's likewise difficult to buy a car at 1970 prices (even adjusting for inflation) because cars these days cost so much more to produce, to stop them being deathtraps. Side airbags, disc brakes, catalytic converters, seatbelts etc all cost more during production. There's no option to buy a car from this century that doesn't have these things because we now think that would be too dangerous. With subsequent decades of public transport cuts and urban newbuild sprawl since the 60s/70s into areas that were never on a bus/train route, people generally need a vehicle outside of major cities. Especially now that industry has left most towns so the majority of people can't just walk to the pit/factory to work.

With two people expected to work to survive, nursery fees are now needed for all children the family choose to have. Having children wasn't even much of an active choice in the 50s or early 60s, people just had them and society was set up for it. Now we're told it's a choice we make when people want to rub it in our faces, when for every other species on the planet it's just biological fact, so society have made it extremely difficult and expensive for people to actually have and raise children with so many things that society says they must have.

The NSPCC gleefully abhor situations where a boy and a girl are sharing a bedroom so unless you luck out and get two girls or two boys, that's a non-starter for most people, too.

So the only one I'd agree with you on is holidays abroad which absolutely no one needs.

The cheaper options just don't exist anymore. There isn't a choice. It's pay a bomb for the thing in front of you or don't have it at all and suffer the consequences, which in some of these cases would be significant.

@OneBadKitty

yes the single income = great lifestyle of yesteryear is a myth. My maternal grandparents were single income, low skilled and lived hand to mouth, rented whole lives, my paternal grandfather was semi skilled but my grandmother also always worked, they owned a modest house, only 2 kids though. My parents bought when I was a baby but we didn’t have a lot, one camping trip in the summer and only once my mum went back to work did the holidays and cars improve

Show them your accounts-if not in detail. Problem with boomers is that we get lumped int one unhelpful mass. There's a massive difference between the life experience of a 1947 boomer, who'll be about 78 now and a 1965 born 60/61 yr old, like my DB, still very much at work. They grew up at different times and in different economic circumstances.

It's not relevant but I exam marked as well as was very broke with first mortgage. You learn a lot but goodness it's a challenge.

All I can say is some of us know full well what the problems are and try to help with childcare, car lending, DIY, trips to the tip, whatever. If your parents are being tricky, explain the finances maybe and hopefully they will shut up and be more helpful.
Love from the boomer who with her boomer mate has just found, paid for and transported a TV unit thing for DD's shared flat. Honestly, we do try and help where we can.

I have a side hustle with an old uni friend it is something we are both interested in and enjoy working together on it. It involves online retail and we make a tidy amount of “pin money” from it. We use our skill sets from previous jobs to run as a legit business so people can and do make it work.

I think it can be but might also be delivering Pizza in the evenings.

Completely agree with you, OP! Businesses that aren’t paying their staff enough to live on should be ashamed of themselves.

There's a difference in terms of people having to pay more for convenience, i.e. a slice of cake when you're travelling or out and about, compared with a cake in a box from Tesco being price compared with a home made cake, which "look" the same.

People also know it's more costly to eat out due to having to pay for the staffing to serve you, the premises costs to eat in, the 20% VAT on the slice, (no VAT if you buy a whole cake from a supermarket!), etc.

The easiest and least stressful happened without me even trying. I was asked to take part in an Understanding Society survey. Twice a year, I fill in a survey, and let them take my weight, height and blood pressure. Also a blood sample. DS does it too.

They send us gift vouchers, about £100 this year for an hour and a half of our time. 🙂

Yeah I get your point but it’s more a “fiver in Tesco” mentality - they’d be happy paying massively over the odds in Costa.

I’m amazed by this. People don’t want to pay £10 for a whole homemade cheesecake? They’re about £5 a slice in some coffee shops. Are these colleagues particularly hard up?! Or just stingy?