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School reports results came as a surprise

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Mumisconfused · 18/07/2025 23:14

AIBU to be upset the teacher didn't provide enough feedback at parents meeting, around Easter time, and now the report for DC, who just finished YR1, mentions 'working towards expected' in all areas? We were not aware of this!

We did ask her specifically to let us know if there was areas dc needed more support back in April, and she said dc needs to work in the presentation of his work (which is true). But she only mentioned that! She said maths and reading was fine.... in the phonics test dc got 36/40 words, which I think it's very good. DC reads long sentences and has a good understanding of what dc has just read...

I understand dc's concentration is not great, and we also asked the teacher since the beggining of yr1 if she thinks dc's concentration is as expected for a 5/6 years old, and she didn't really noticed anything. DH thinks she doesn't pay much attention on him because he is very well behaved and she's too busy dealing with not so well behaved kids.... I am starting to think he is right.

How can she have not flagged this to us, when we asked in April? She removed the chance of us giving him extra support at home....

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Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 19:45

Laughlikeadrain · 19/07/2025 14:22

And I agree with you. But it’s the accusations against individual teachers and insinuating they are incompetent that’s actually corrosive. It also deflects from the systemic problems in education, and the lack of funding.

I don’t think it is individual teachers they are being failed by the system themselves, hence the mass exodus from the profession. But as they are being failed so are the kids. Education funding should be a key priority for the government regardless of political stance of the government of the day.

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 19:39

CountFucula · 19/07/2025 11:07

People expect superhuman standards from teachers. Nurture, pastoral, coaching, toileting, manners, giving special attention, personalised plans and that’s before you get into actually educating them.

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Surprisingly at my daughter’s school the teachers do manage to provide all that and take the time to engage with her so all work is tailored to her ability and interests. Class sizes are maximum 10 children to 1 teacher plus assistant. It is amazing what teachers can do when properly funded and supported. The issue is the shoddy funding of the schools in the UK and teachers are not able to teach as they should - so kids are failed daily in small and large ways.

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 19:33

PaintedCurtains · 19/07/2025 17:50

What nonsense. You clearly do not know what a loving concerned mum of a young child looks like.

The school failed to communicate properly with the OP about where her son was at - so she is annoyed as she was unable to support her son during the year. At no point did I say the OP was not a concerned Mum- I was saying she wanted to support her son rather than focusing on any perceived failing as he was not meeting expectation.

Screamingabdabz · 19/07/2025 18:51

Jeez all the angst over reading levels and ‘age related expectations’ on a cut and paste end of year report for a 5 year old. 🙄

Genuinely I could not have given a flying fig what the teacher wrote on my kid’s report as I was the judge of their ability and I was confident that they were good readers, they were articulate and could do their times tables. That’s virtually all they need to know at primary. Anything else is a bonus!

Stressing over these things too early can actually make children lose a love for school because the expectation weighs too heavily on them. Just let your DC learn and explore at their own pace. Your job is not to harangue teachers but to encourage a sense of play and curiosity and reading in your child. If you do that, the rest will naturally follow.

Mayflyoff · 19/07/2025 18:34

I think it is worth being bothered. Schools assess children against age related expectations and progress against prior year attainment. This can mean that school will accept a child being below the expected levels, as long as they continue to make the expected steps of progress. So a school can "lock in" to accepting a child underperforming related to their abilities. We had this with one of my DDs and we were able to demonstrate to the school that she was more able and more should be expected of her. But I worry about similar children without invested parents.

Bushmillsbabe · 19/07/2025 18:25

1AngelicFruitCake · 19/07/2025 17:39

I’m sorry but this makes no sense! If they master it easily at 7 or 8 then this would mean most children if not all would be on track and they aren’t. Teaching children in reception and year 1 isn’t a waste.

100% agree. My just finished year 4 daughter is bright, but really missed out from missing most of reception due to covid closures. I only really realised how important this year was after my youngest went through reception. Both my girls are reasonably smart, but the youngest at 6 has a better grasp in spelling unfamiliar words than the oldest at 9 due to oldest missing the basic phonics building blocks in reception

Bushmillsbabe · 19/07/2025 18:21

Mumisconfused · 19/07/2025 07:40

Hi, I don't have a particular suggestion for activities/games but I would suggest looking into subscribing 'Twinkl'. They are a great resources platform used by many many schools.

The best option is to find the associated books to their curriculum. My Y1 daughters school does Little Wandle for reading and White Rose Maths, and there are associated homework books for these. Which I don't think is really necessary in year 1, but her older sister had them and my just turned 6 wanted them too. The schemes teach things in quite different ways, so it's important to be doing an extra learning in a way which is consistent with school schemes.

All children develop at different rates. My year 1 child struggled in reception as one of the youngest in her year, but something just clicked mid year 1 and she went from working towards to greater depth in space of 4 months, 40/40 in phonics test. More than anything it linked to her focus level - you said your son struggles to settle into their work, so it may be worth looking at strategies around that - if he is taking say 5/10 mins to get into an activity, and they are in 30 mins blocks that a chunk of learning he is missing.

PaintedCurtains · 19/07/2025 17:50

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 10:55

I think the OP is more concerned about the failings of the school and the teacher than her son.

What nonsense. You clearly do not know what a loving concerned mum of a young child looks like.

TheignT · 19/07/2025 17:49

1AngelicFruitCake · 19/07/2025 17:39

I’m sorry but this makes no sense! If they master it easily at 7 or 8 then this would mean most children if not all would be on track and they aren’t. Teaching children in reception and year 1 isn’t a waste.

Take it up with the teacher who'd taught reception and year 1 for years and felt that. It certainly worked for my son.

I think you misunderstood, she was saying all the stuff she and they worked hard to learn in reception and year 1 was easily learned in year 3 in a matter of weeks so why teach it before they are ready? Doesn't mean they would be on track for year 3 although my son certainly was by the end of the year. Which is probably why they start later in other countries and achieve as much if not more than out kids.

PaintedCurtains · 19/07/2025 17:47

edwinbear · 19/07/2025 00:38

Basically, you thought your child was a child prodigy and they’re not. It’s a huge bump down to earth when they start school, and you realise they are actually quite normal. Your DC is a normal kid, needs a bit of work in some areas, others are fine. Nothing special, nothing remarkable. Just one of 20 kids, doing just fine.

Can you point where the OP described her child as a prodigy? I may have missed it. Or were you just trying to be unpleasant for attention?

1AngelicFruitCake · 19/07/2025 17:39

TheignT · 19/07/2025 09:53

My experience is different. We "home schooled" for years R 1 and 2 which for us meant we let him play and discover whatever. He started school in year 3, his teacher had been teaching year R and 1 for years but wanted a change. He was assessed as fine for maths but waaay behind for reading and writing. During the year he steadily moved tables until he was in the gifted and talented group.

His teacher was lovely and I felt bad when she said she felt her career had been a waste of time as she had worked hard trying to get 4 and 5 year olds to do what they'd master easily at 7 and 8.

I think pushing lots of school and homework on 4 and 5 year olds can be counter productive. Just my experience.

I’m sorry but this makes no sense! If they master it easily at 7 or 8 then this would mean most children if not all would be on track and they aren’t. Teaching children in reception and year 1 isn’t a waste.

Laughlikeadrain · 19/07/2025 14:22

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 13:54

Just saying teachers aren’t superhuman is not the point. Education should be properly invested in by the Government and these threads, which often appear on mumsnet just show children are being let down every day in schools in small ways - which adds up,

And I agree with you. But it’s the accusations against individual teachers and insinuating they are incompetent that’s actually corrosive. It also deflects from the systemic problems in education, and the lack of funding.

ThePussy · 19/07/2025 13:59

DD1’s teacher told us (after a similar school report in Y2) that she never noticed if DD1 was in the class or not! She was also bored. She was on the G & T programme in Y1 and her Y2 teacher simply didn’t bother to continue it. Y3 and a different school made all the difference.

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 13:54

Laughlikeadrain · 19/07/2025 11:18

I agree with this. I’m not a teacher, but was school governor when kids were young.

truth of the matter is that teachers are teaching 25 kids. They don’t have the time for 1-1 attention to every kid all day.

parents have around 1-4 to look after, so their expectations are skewed.

OP- would also say that the teacher has told you how he is doing in his report card- you now know how to target your efforts at home.

It takes time for a teacher to evaluate progress- maybe when you last spoke he was doing fine, but had dipped recently?

the report is not an exam result, it’s a progress report with plenty of pointers for you over the summer.

he is only yr1. Save you stress for exam years

Just saying teachers aren’t superhuman is not the point. Education should be properly invested in by the Government and these threads, which often appear on mumsnet just show children are being let down every day in schools in small ways - which adds up,

Pyramyth · 19/07/2025 13:54

Swiftie1878 · 19/07/2025 13:26

Not when they’re using the term ‘working towards’.

It means exactly that at the school I work and at my children's school. It explicitly says so on their reports.

usedtobeaylis · 19/07/2025 13:53

What does 'working towards expected' mean there? Here it means on track for age and expectation and isn't a negative thing? I think there are only 3 options on the report here.

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 13:50

Verbena17 · 19/07/2025 11:26

This is really good point - my DD had someone else’s name on her primary report and the teacher said ‘oh, well we often copy and paste stuff’.😩

Bloody hell - that’s sums up the current state education in the UK. It makes my blood boil about the lack of investment in education.

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 13:48

Bluebigclouds · 19/07/2025 12:13

I meant they shouldn't be worried about their son's abilities ...
Agree about overlooking ...I wouldn't be happy with the school.

Then 100% agree with you 😀

CountFucula · 19/07/2025 13:32

? WTS in Year 1 would be not quite at the standard expected for that exact age group: Year 1. Measuring to the end of the key stage makes no sense?

Swiftie1878 · 19/07/2025 13:26

Pyramyth · 19/07/2025 12:27

Most schools measure against year group objectives though, not end of key stage.

Not when they’re using the term ‘working towards’.

Pyramyth · 19/07/2025 12:27

Swiftie1878 · 19/07/2025 12:24

Most children at the end of Y1 are ‘working towards’, as the measures are for what they should be achieving at the end of KS1 (end of Y2!). Unless your child is a whole year ahead of where they should be, they are ‘working towards’.

Most schools measure against year group objectives though, not end of key stage.

Swiftie1878 · 19/07/2025 12:24

Most children at the end of Y1 are ‘working towards’, as the measures are for what they should be achieving at the end of KS1 (end of Y2!). Unless your child is a whole year ahead of where they should be, they are ‘working towards’.

Bluebigclouds · 19/07/2025 12:16

CountFucula · 19/07/2025 11:07

People expect superhuman standards from teachers. Nurture, pastoral, coaching, toileting, manners, giving special attention, personalised plans and that’s before you get into actually educating them.

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The problem is that I think that is close to what most 5 year olds need/is best for them...just not possible with current system.

Bluebigclouds · 19/07/2025 12:13

Poppins21 · 19/07/2025 10:58

But they should be worried if their child is being overlooked by a teacher. The low standards people have come to expect of uk state schools and teachers is downright worrying.

I meant they shouldn't be worried about their son's abilities ...
Agree about overlooking ...I wouldn't be happy with the school.

Verbena17 · 19/07/2025 11:26

thirdfiddle · 19/07/2025 09:26

My first thought was check that it's not a clerical error of some sort. As you say, it's surprising that a child is still 'working towards' and hasn't been flagged to you at the parents evening that they're a little behind targets. A report shouldn't be the first you hear of it. How were end of Reception reports? If those were at expected, there's also a question of poor progress.

It's great you have an opportunity to talk to the teacher and find out what's going on. Just go in neutral and see what they have to say. And if there is an issue keep being a squeaky wheel next year, if he is behind school should be providing extra help and should welcome your support.

This is really good point - my DD had someone else’s name on her primary report and the teacher said ‘oh, well we often copy and paste stuff’.😩