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Partners mum is going to die tonight but im meant to be taking my kids on holiday tomorrow

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Allcrisisnocalm · 18/07/2025 22:24

Fuck fuck fuck
my partners mum won’t last the night (totally unexpected)
i want to be with him - he’s 3 hours away
but I’m due to fly tomorrow morning to America with my three kids - first time they’ve been out to see my family there in 9 years - I have no family here other than my kids. Literally due to leave for the airport at 7am tomorrow

I don’t live with my partner so his mum my kids have only met once.

DP was due to join us a week later with his kids

I’ve checked the travel insurance policy with a fine tooth comb (am a lawyer) and defo won’t cover the mum of my partner as we’ve got separate insurance policies
my policy is just for me and my kids rather than a joint policy with partner

I don’t know what to do

I could maybe see if I can push the flights back 24 hours but it looks like it will be another £3k (same cost as original)

or send my 2 youngest with my 18 yr old and join in 24 hours? A huge responsibility for the eldest and im not sure im comfortable with it but could speak to eldest to see what she feels about it
youngest two are 11 and 15 so not babies
they’d be met by family

can’t work out the extra flight cost just for me but I think it will be around £1k , that’s not great but better than £3k but I don’t know if I can send my kids alone

fuck fuck fuck

OP posts:
Usernamenope · 19/07/2025 03:00

It is definitely the right decision to go as planned, OP. As hard as it is, you can't really cancel going when it is such an important occasion and absolutely you shouldn't send them alone. 18 is quite young to still to be taking responsibility for younger siblings and American immigration can be horrendous.
For the first few weeks, your partner will likely have spent it with his own family and dealing with practical matters - this might be easier alone anyway

Backofthenet20 · 19/07/2025 02:59

Allcrisisnocalm · 19/07/2025 02:55

She has passed now

Condolences on the loss. My Dad died after a long illness. Mum had already passed away. Both my brother and I had weekends away booked which were non refundable and quite expensive. Boutique hotel in Snowden for them and Las Vegas with rugby for us. We all went away but did have some guilt about it. I know it would have been what my Dad would have told us to do. I am sure that you can support from been away, your kids need you too and would be so disappointed not to make the trip

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 02:56

I'm sorry for his loss. I am glad it did not drag on, not trying to sound cruel, just that sitting in the hospital with a dying parent is hell.

Allcrisisnocalm · 19/07/2025 02:55

She has passed now

OP posts:
JIMER202 · 19/07/2025 02:52

I’d take your kids. I’d be very worried immigration won’t even let them travel alone as it will raise red flags surely.

BruFord · 19/07/2025 02:40

Zezet · 18/07/2025 22:58

This is a good plan.

I agree with @Greengagesnfennel. Fly out with the children, keep in touch with your DP and then you can always fly back early to support him if you need to.

If your children need to fly home alone, that’ll be easier.

Allcrisisnocalm · 19/07/2025 02:32

PoopingAllTheWay · 19/07/2025 02:29

He has his children and his brother there

I think go, especially if he has said to go too

I personally wouldnt keep messaging him either
Leave him to be with his family or reply when he msgs you first

He’s messaging me and I’m replying

OP posts:
DoAWheelie · 19/07/2025 02:32

OP - when my dad died very suddenly I had all sorts of friends and family trying to "come be with me" to support me. I just wanted to be alone. It wasn't until 3 - 4 days later that I started wanting to let people in.

When he says he wants you to go, it may well be that he really doesn't want people around him right now rather than him saying it so you don't lose out.

Give up on sleep, get everything packed, and crash out on the plane in a few hours.

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 02:31

Thanks for the update. I hope this means you have decided to go. I am glad he has plenty of family support.

PoopingAllTheWay · 19/07/2025 02:29

He has his children and his brother there

I think go, especially if he has said to go too

I personally wouldnt keep messaging him either
Leave him to be with his family or reply when he msgs you first

Allcrisisnocalm · 19/07/2025 02:21

It doesn’t sound like it will be long now unfortunately

haven’t been able to sleep and also haven’t finished packing despite needing to leave at 7am as I just am watching my phone for updates and supporting my partner on text as best I can. Which is hard as I’m a practical hand stroker not a wordy person in situations like this

it’s bringing back memories of sitting with my best friend on a ventilator waiting for brain stem testing and also being in hosp with my mum when she died - now I was totally alone when my mum died and my ex buggered off to work the next day. I am glad DP has his big family there, he isn’t alone. He has a brother there he is extremely close to.

I’ve reflected a lot in the last couple of hours and on these messages. I desperately want to support my partner but he is MY partner not the kids’ family member. My kids have always come first - it is why we did not blend the families or live together as I didn’t think it was in the kids’ best interests. I do fear this might irrevocably change our relationship even if he wants me to go on a logical level he may be hurt deep down but I can’t devastate the kids by cancelling when it’s so remote to them.

The trip is a perhaps not once in a lifetime but certainly once in a decade - I haven’t been able to afford to see my family for 9 years. I have a good job but I’m a single parent household and life is extremely expensive post divorce with a huge mortgage as i bought my ex out of the family home.

I can’t afford to buy another set of flight tickets for four people, I’m still paying these off on a 0% credit card as it is and I have uni fees to pay for coming up.

My partner possibly could pay for the new tickets if he desperately wanted me there - it would still be a lot of money but not as much for him as for me . He’s in a better financial position than me - but he presumably hasn’t suggested it as he wants us to go.

its extended family in the states - aunts uncles and cousins but I’m an only child with both my parents passed so this is a very meaningful trip to me as they are my only blood relatives except the kids. As mentioned people are flying from all over the states to be there for this family reunion, me from UK and others from even further abroad. It’s been planned for over a year.

lots of reasons to go
but it doesn’t make me feel any better about not being with him
i feel horribly heartless

thank you for all the kind messages

OP posts:
LBFseBrom · 19/07/2025 02:08

Allcrisisnocalm · 18/07/2025 23:04

I’ve managed to speak to him briefly
i said in any other circumstances I’d be halfway there by now which he knows
he immediately said not to change anything
I said I was looking at changing my flight and my eldest taking the other two and he was adamant not to even consider this

so I will go but I really so desperately wish the timing was different

I understand how you feel, Allcrisnocalm, and feel for you but you are right to go an please do try to enjoy yourself, if only outwardly, for the sake of your children.

You can keep in touch with your partner and he will appreciate that. You'll see him as soon as you get home. He knows you would like to be with him.

When my husband died suddenly, six years ago, my son's partner came over from America very briefly but had to go back before the funeral because her child was starting school. She would have liked to be with us but we all knew - children must always come first.

I am sorry this has happened. x

Velmy · 19/07/2025 02:08

Allcrisisnocalm · 18/07/2025 23:04

I’ve managed to speak to him briefly
i said in any other circumstances I’d be halfway there by now which he knows
he immediately said not to change anything
I said I was looking at changing my flight and my eldest taking the other two and he was adamant not to even consider this

so I will go but I really so desperately wish the timing was different

It's an awful situation but what's the alternative? If you cancelled everything, you'd have to leave some/all of your no doubt upset kids home alone, or take them to wherever your partner and their grieving family are at a very difficult time. That's not fair on anyone.

I'm not a worrier, but it's a bad time to be adding complications to entering the US right now. If one/all of your kids are denied entry for some reason, I'd be a nightmare.

You're doing the right thing by going, and your partner seems to understand that.

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 02:04

MrsEverest · 19/07/2025 01:52

We’re reading very different threads. The OP has at no point said she’s thinking of ‘taking the holiday away’ how absurdly melodramatic. She’s thinking about an extra day or so here. She requires no patronising reminders of her responsibilities.

OP I think I’d still go on the planned flight, partly because it’s very difficult to be precise about timing of death in many situations and so an extra 24 hours may still not be enough. I’d go and be available by phone as much as possible.

Oh and no, it's not even remotely melodramatic. But you already know that :)

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 02:02

SquishedMallow · 19/07/2025 01:58

You're just being silly now.

It came out of the blue, she hasn't been terminal for 8 months. His emotions are going to be all over the place. Of course he'll blurt it out !!!!!

But it still doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do to cancel a long haul trip for her children to see their family with less than 24hours notice. Ultimately, it's the son (him) that absolutely needs to be there for his mum. That goes without saying. Sons partner and her children are not essential to the poor dying woman. And dealing with all the stress of cancelling everything the op is not going to be in a nice calm frame of mind to be optimal support. She can't win in this situation.

Yep. Death happens. It is a sad fact of living that our parents will die. He is not family, he does have family support, and if he cares about her he will want her to go. I am glad she has said she is definitely sending her kids, and I do hope she goes with them and doesn't try to go out later.

Orderofthephoenixparody · 19/07/2025 02:01

MrsEverest · 19/07/2025 01:52

We’re reading very different threads. The OP has at no point said she’s thinking of ‘taking the holiday away’ how absurdly melodramatic. She’s thinking about an extra day or so here. She requires no patronising reminders of her responsibilities.

OP I think I’d still go on the planned flight, partly because it’s very difficult to be precise about timing of death in many situations and so an extra 24 hours may still not be enough. I’d go and be available by phone as much as possible.

The op has not said that some posters have. Some people get lost in threads and forget what the op originally said. I do agree with your last statement she should make herself available to talk on the phone. Be careful of the phone bill I had £300 bill years ago when my partner went to Texas for training. I hear EE is a good network to use in Jamaica but I am not sure about America.

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 01:59

MrsEverest · 19/07/2025 01:52

We’re reading very different threads. The OP has at no point said she’s thinking of ‘taking the holiday away’ how absurdly melodramatic. She’s thinking about an extra day or so here. She requires no patronising reminders of her responsibilities.

OP I think I’d still go on the planned flight, partly because it’s very difficult to be precise about timing of death in many situations and so an extra 24 hours may still not be enough. I’d go and be available by phone as much as possible.

This has already been responded to later after the OP responded to me and stated that she had no intention of taking away her kids' holiday to prioritise her boyfriend's family, so already asked and answered.

SquishedMallow · 19/07/2025 01:58

BluntPlumHam · 19/07/2025 01:45

Btw OP if I knew my partner was flying out so soon and I truly didn’t want my partner to be by me side and make their holiday then I wouldn’t even inform them of my parent dying. He clearly wanted you to know for a reason.

You're just being silly now.

It came out of the blue, she hasn't been terminal for 8 months. His emotions are going to be all over the place. Of course he'll blurt it out !!!!!

But it still doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do to cancel a long haul trip for her children to see their family with less than 24hours notice. Ultimately, it's the son (him) that absolutely needs to be there for his mum. That goes without saying. Sons partner and her children are not essential to the poor dying woman. And dealing with all the stress of cancelling everything the op is not going to be in a nice calm frame of mind to be optimal support. She can't win in this situation.

Ponderingwindow · 19/07/2025 01:57

When my mother died, I didn’t need my husband to sit next to me while I cried. I needed him to take over running our household with a young child so that I can do nothing but wallow.

your boyfriend has adult children. He doesn’t need you to jump in and handle logistics. There really isn’t anything you can do.

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 01:57

Orderofthephoenixparody · 19/07/2025 01:50

The op has no family in the UK they live in the states. There is not much the op can do she has to respect his wishes and give him and his family space. It's a lot of money to travel to America and her children want to see their family. They haven't seen them in 9 years and if she followed your advice they may not see them for another 9 years it's not cheap. Her children may resent her if she chooses his family over them seeing theirs.

Absolutely this, Fortunately the OP is not going to snatch their holiday from them in order to prioritise her boyfriend and his family.

MrsEverest · 19/07/2025 01:52

thelakeisle · 18/07/2025 22:49

But it sounds like you are looking for support to take away your children's holiday from them because you want to be with your boyfriend, who will actually be fine, whereas their trip to see family will be ruined, for no practical reason. So I think that is why the other poster reminded you that the kids matter more than your boyfriend. I think this will harm your relationship with their kids, if they see you put your boyfriend's feelings over theirs.

We’re reading very different threads. The OP has at no point said she’s thinking of ‘taking the holiday away’ how absurdly melodramatic. She’s thinking about an extra day or so here. She requires no patronising reminders of her responsibilities.

OP I think I’d still go on the planned flight, partly because it’s very difficult to be precise about timing of death in many situations and so an extra 24 hours may still not be enough. I’d go and be available by phone as much as possible.

thelakeisle · 19/07/2025 01:52

BluntPlumHam · 19/07/2025 01:42

The irony of you saying not going on a trip would have dire consequences when the chaps mum is quite literally dying …

But the OP staying won't change that, while not going will have have consequences for her family.

Orderofthephoenixparody · 19/07/2025 01:50

BluntPlumHam · 19/07/2025 01:38

I don’t think she should be sending her children alone at all. I think she should be postponing the entire thing and supporting her partner of 8 years who’s going to be going through a life changing event. Of course there seems to be suggestion that they’re not that serious/close enough to warrant her being with him but then I’m wondering why she would be fretting about not being able to be there for him. In my experience her
choosing a holiday because that’s what it is, just holiday over supporting her partner is going to cause some resentment for sure. There aren’t many reasons in life why you should put your plans on hold but the death of a loved one, especially when you get the opportunity to be by their side in their last moments, which so few get the chance to do is certainly a reason to pause things. As for getting her money back, get partner to request a letter from the Dr she was under the care of to show airlines they may not refund but might offer alternative dates.

The op has no family in the UK they live in the states. There is not much the op can do she has to respect his wishes and give him and his family space. It's a lot of money to travel to America and her children want to see their family. They haven't seen them in 9 years and if she followed your advice they may not see them for another 9 years it's not cheap. Her children may resent her if she chooses his family over them seeing theirs.

SquishedMallow · 19/07/2025 01:48

BluntPlumHam · 19/07/2025 01:42

The irony of you saying not going on a trip would have dire consequences when the chaps mum is quite literally dying …

Ok. You guilt trip her then.

Harsh as it sounds : he's her partner, they're not married, the children aren't his, they don't live together. It does change the dynamics to some degree.

If they were a "family unit" and it was a case of "look kids, Grandma is dying and we need to be home for dad and gran " that is a bit different to :

"Kids, Ken's mum is dying. I'm afraid I need to cancel our trip last minute to see nan and grandad in the US"

Ops children come first ultimately. Ken and his mother (as hideous of a situation it is for the OP who's stuck in the middle ) cannot trump her children.

It's Hobson's choice (repeating myself) but it's the lesser of two evils

BluntPlumHam · 19/07/2025 01:45

Btw OP if I knew my partner was flying out so soon and I truly didn’t want my partner to be by me side and make their holiday then I wouldn’t even inform them of my parent dying. He clearly wanted you to know for a reason.

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