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Are you allowed carers leave for this??

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CalmFawn · 18/07/2025 20:32

My DD is 5. She’s had a small lump on her face for a few months that the GP said was a cyst but it’s grown suddenly and we’ve found out this week it’s a tumour. She needs to have some tests and scans over the next few weeks and the date for removal is in 2 weeks.

am I allowed any carers leave for this? My boss says no as it’s not an emergency as it’s ’pre booked’ but I think a tumour is quite a big thing?! And the only reason it’s not being removed asap as they need to do other tests first. I’m not allowed to take annual leave or unpaid leave as it’s August and fully booked

should I accept that I can’t take any leave?

im waiting to hear back from HR but though I’d ask here to see if anyone has any opinions

I work for the nhs but can’t find the trust policies online

thank you

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TheChosenTwo · 19/07/2025 07:20

As almost everyone else has said, get signed off. Fingers crossed your lovely dd is back on her feet soon, look after yourself too.
My boss wouldn’t hesitate to authorise carers leave for a scenario such as this, we get 2 full weeks then there is additional discretionary paid carers leave depending on the circumstances.

vdbfamily · 19/07/2025 07:19

I think I would ask to speak to HR, explain the situation and ask their advice.
There is a new national Carers leave which allows you up to 5 days a year unpaid to deal with just this sort of thing, supporting a dependent with appointments etc. I would expect a staff member to use this or emergency annual leave but I would make sure they were there with their child when they needed to be

BBQmuncher · 19/07/2025 07:12

its pretty crap not to get any leave approved in these circumstances. I would asked to be signed off with stress (and that's something I don't suggest usually).

Holdonforsummer · 19/07/2025 07:06

Gloriia · 18/07/2025 21:20

'For example, I didn’t get carer’s leave when I had to accompany my husband to a colonoscopy under sedation.'

But he isn't your child, the op is her dc's primary carer. Anyone could've accompanied your dh.

Carer’s leave isn’t just for children, I would have got it if my husband had been rushed to hospital with a stroke, just not for a pre-planned procedure. Again, read your policies, they may be different for every organisation (I have read mine).

JMSA · 19/07/2025 06:25

And so unfair x

JMSA · 19/07/2025 06:24

CalmFawn · 19/07/2025 00:28

Thanks everyone, you’ve all been really helpful.

I never considered sick leave but it is a definite option if HR don’t have any other suggestions. I’ve worked in my team for 11 years and I’ve yet to take a sick day so I don’t think it would trigger any warnings.

my manager does have adult children and really annoyingly uses carers leave to take them to pre arranged hospital appointments for diabetes at least twice a month. Unsure how she can do that with an adult children and this doesn’t count but i think im going to have to let that go or ill open a huge can of worms 😂

That’s actually infuriating.

JMSA · 19/07/2025 06:23

Oh gosh, they sound very unfeeling.
I hope everything is ok.

CalmFawn · 19/07/2025 00:28

Thanks everyone, you’ve all been really helpful.

I never considered sick leave but it is a definite option if HR don’t have any other suggestions. I’ve worked in my team for 11 years and I’ve yet to take a sick day so I don’t think it would trigger any warnings.

my manager does have adult children and really annoyingly uses carers leave to take them to pre arranged hospital appointments for diabetes at least twice a month. Unsure how she can do that with an adult children and this doesn’t count but i think im going to have to let that go or ill open a huge can of worms 😂

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YourJoyousDenimExpert · 19/07/2025 00:19

Ex-NHS Manager hereand it would not be eligible for Carers leave as others have said. NHS managers don’t always have the freedom to be flexible alas. I would have agreed annual leave though even if it’s a struggle for the team as if you go off sick they may have a lack of staff for longer ! Really hope all will be ok x

StarCourt · 18/07/2025 23:59

does your boss have kids?

Bridgetjonesheart · 18/07/2025 23:56

In our company carers leave is managers discretion. Your manager is disgustingly quite frankly. Go off sick with stress. Get a doctors note.

CandidRobin · 18/07/2025 23:56

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BernardButlersBra · 18/07/2025 23:56

LuckysDadsHat · 18/07/2025 20:38

Go on sick leave with stress. That your boss is being such an arse about it at such a stressful time is disgusting.

Err this. I really don't say it lightly but it must be distressing and hard. Your boss sounds like a dick. In this situation l would be way more understanding.

CandidRobin · 18/07/2025 23:56

It's my understanding that carer's leave is for something sudden and unforeseen and allows a few days for alternative arrangements to be made, at least that's the policy for my employer. You should absolutely be granted unpaid leave if you have no annual leave left in your circumstances no matter what the situation is with your team re cover etc.

nocoolnamesleft · 18/07/2025 23:54

I think people don't realise how shitty an employer the NHS can be. Obviously you're going to have to take the time off, so you'd think they'd work with you to try and work out the best way to do it. If they won't, the stress probably will make you absolutely genuinely unfit to work.

Ilovewillow · 18/07/2025 23:49

I run my own business and so don’t say this lightly but that’s really shitty of your employer. If needs be the sick leave. I hope all goes well!

Hercisback1 · 18/07/2025 23:42

This is crazy, get signed off by your GP with stress please.

jamimmi · 18/07/2025 23:35

Good.grief i seen to have one of.the few.non compassionate nhs.managers. Dh is disabled. I have an agreed carers passport. Which gives.am.a weeks leave to.support him per year. I.dont abuse it but was recently told by my manager I.must use it when I needed time off to support his treatment. She didn't want me to use annual leave
If yr.manager is a band 7 sister I'd go to your matron / department head for support. If no support then GP with stress. A 5 yr old.with a tumor needs .her mum

Beautifulsunflowers · 18/07/2025 23:22

How awful for you op and your dd, to be going through this and to have work to worry about it horrid.
I also work for the nhs and my bosses would give me the time one way or another.
Definitely see your gp and get signed off with stress - work will manage, they will have to. Your dd is more important.
Hoping everything goes ok for her x

cherish123 · 18/07/2025 22:49

CalmFawn · 18/07/2025 21:17

Thanks everyone!

I’ll wait for HR to get back in touch on Monday and I’ll get in touch with the GP if they can’t allow the one day off. Realistically I think a few weeks of sickness would be better anyway. DD is currently an inpatient and our stress levels are unreal!

thank you for the well wishes 💕

All the best. Work stress is really not what you need right now. Hope you DD recovers quickly.

Calamitousness · 18/07/2025 22:42

I know what I’m talking about here and it’s sick leave you need to take. If he’d been smart he could’ve granted you AL despite making his life difficult and needing to find cover. As it is, you need to see your GP and tell him/her you are too anxious and upset to go to work at that time and you would be unable to function. You are sick because of stress and worry about your child. I actually think this is the best option as you will need longer than a couple of weeks to support her recovery at home as well. Let your boss know that you are incredibly stressed for personal reasons and you will be seeing your GP soon to discuss how best to be supported by them. Ask to be referred to OH. They will all be supportive of your sick line of personal stress. Please don’t worry. Your manager will have to support you. I hope your daughter recovers well.

Praying4Peace · 18/07/2025 22:24

LobsterPants · 18/07/2025 20:36

Of course you can!

Surely pre booked would mean a regular dentists appointment or routine check up. This sounds urgent.

Good luck, hope everything is ok x

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Also NHS has a clear policy on this and circumstances re prebooked etc are at discretion of manager.
Given the circumstances, your manager would be pretty harsh not to support this.
I have had a management role in NHS

MoralHighGroundGrandWizard · 18/07/2025 22:20

I’m a manager in the NHS and have worked at several trusts. Carers leave is for emergency, unplanned events generally so not for pre planned surgeries, even if they are urgent.
in this instance, I would say to take whatever time was needed and we would figure out the logistics of documenting it after the fact when the dust was settled.
im sorry your manager is such an arse.

Kirbert2 · 18/07/2025 22:16

I ended up losing my job when my son had cancer. It's outrageous that there's no paid leave for parents when their child is ill enough to be in hospital.

I hope it all goes well with your daughter, it's awful to have to be worrying about this too.

BoarBrush · 18/07/2025 22:09

BeamMeUpCountMeIn · 18/07/2025 20:47

Typical NHS.
I'd get signed off with stress, because you are bloody stressed.

I hope your DD is much better very soon.

"Typical NHS"
Yet you want the op to take the piss out of her gp surgery to get a sick note?

Typical NHS indeed.