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DH being cruel to small fish

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linaplatelover · 18/07/2025 16:37

DH is part of a team sport - has been for years no issues usually with it.

he has brought home a small ‘goldfish’ in a tiny tank. This small fish has been passed around different team members. Apparently if it dies on your watch you have to pay a fine.

the fish clearly isn’t being cared for properly, the water is cloudy it has no filter or air stone.

Ive looked up the type of fish and it’s not even a goldfish - it’s a small orange tropical fish that requires a heater.

I'm absolutely furious! I hate any cruelty to animals and think this type of lads game from a 40 yr old man is ridiculous.

first off mumsnetters AIBU? And if you think no what should I do?

worst part is that DH agrees that it’s cruel but for some reason ‘doesn’t want to cause a fuss’

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 18/07/2025 19:46

Sorry you found out the type of man you married is one like this.
Can you update on the poor fishy please.

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 19:45

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 18:56

You really should educate yourself on the conditions your fish was kept in before being battered and served with your chips. I think you’ll find it’s not too different to this little goldfish, bar the overcrowding and disease you find more prevailing factory farmed fish.

Are you actually trying to saying fish from British fish and chip shops ie haddock, cod, plaice is generally farmed? Perhaps it’s you who needs educating. Check your facts before mounting your little attention seeking crusades

Justchilling07 · 18/07/2025 19:44

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:37

Let's hope she updates with news of this.

Yes, just give her a chance though.She needs supportive advice.

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:37

Justchilling07 · 18/07/2025 19:35

Yes, we know, it can’t continue, but it’s not her fault. I just don’t think having a go at op, is in anyway helpful She’s the only one, who’s prepared to do something about this.It’s not just a case of keeping/rehoming the fish, it’s putting a stop to this happening again.

Let's hope she updates with news of this.

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:35

ErrolTheDragon · 18/07/2025 19:27

Pretty sure you’ve misunderstood and the first the OP knew of it was when he came home with the unfortunate fish.

I've misunderstood. I'll hope that I'm wrong and that when the OP next posts she has removed the fish or provided proper living conditions.

Justchilling07 · 18/07/2025 19:35

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:25

Perhaps I've misunderstood but this fish has been passed around idiot men and the OP is aware of this?

If the OP cared she would have taken action straight away not allow this cruel "game" to continue. It's a fish she can literally pick up and leave the house with not a grizzly bear.

Yes, we know, it can’t continue, but it’s not her fault. I just don’t think having a go at op, is in anyway helpful She’s the only one, who’s prepared to do something about this.It’s not just a case of keeping/rehoming the fish, it’s putting a stop to this happening again.

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 19:34

Oh please, it’s very unlikely any fish in a British fish and chip shop served battered is farmed.

Away2000 · 18/07/2025 19:34

Rehome it and DON’T say it died. They’ll likely just get another one if you do that. DH needs to speak up about it - unless he doesn’t actually have an issue with it…

2025ismybestyear · 18/07/2025 19:32

KateShugakIsALegend · 18/07/2025 19:27

Oh dear. Nul points for my MN technical skills.

I meant the OP, obvs, but stuffed it right up.

(Congrats on dodging the weak husband bullet, btw)

Oh he was worse than weak. Hence the divorce!! Thanks!

ErrolTheDragon · 18/07/2025 19:27

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:25

Perhaps I've misunderstood but this fish has been passed around idiot men and the OP is aware of this?

If the OP cared she would have taken action straight away not allow this cruel "game" to continue. It's a fish she can literally pick up and leave the house with not a grizzly bear.

Pretty sure you’ve misunderstood and the first the OP knew of it was when he came home with the unfortunate fish.

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 19:27

Tink3rbell30 · 18/07/2025 19:12

I'd be naming and shaming online aswell!

👏👏👏👏👏

KateShugakIsALegend · 18/07/2025 19:27

2025ismybestyear · 18/07/2025 19:13

What? Not my husband. I don't have one anyway.

Oh dear. Nul points for my MN technical skills.

I meant the OP, obvs, but stuffed it right up.

(Congrats on dodging the weak husband bullet, btw)

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:25

Justchilling07 · 18/07/2025 19:20

That’s harsh, op does care, just asked for different opinions, on best how to deal with this, not to be flamed.Feel for op, she has to take this on, with no support.Don’t think for one minute she’s going to allow the fish to go back.

Perhaps I've misunderstood but this fish has been passed around idiot men and the OP is aware of this?

If the OP cared she would have taken action straight away not allow this cruel "game" to continue. It's a fish she can literally pick up and leave the house with not a grizzly bear.

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 19:22

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/07/2025 19:15

Irrelevant under the circumstances IMO.

Suspect vegan crap.

I'm talking as a farmer's daughter. I spent my childhood on a farm. We had sheep & bullocks which were kept to pay our bills. All animals kept in good conditions, but, at the end of the day, the bullocks & sheep not needed tor breeding were taken to market for meat.

We also had a small dairy herd of Guernsey cows for milk.

We kept chickens running around the farm scratching up grubs, worms etc for a living, giving us a good supply of eggs which we sold at the farm gate. My father killed the cockerels once fat enough to eat & laying birds who were aged 18 months as they were no longer economic to keep which we also ate.

The bullocks & male lambs only existed because they were going to be sold for meat. The chickens lived good 'chicken' lives scratching around, bringing up broods, but once they got too old to lay enough eggs to justify their keep they were killed & we ate them. The animal poo went onto the ground to fertilise it.

I don't get vegans - our countryside has been farmed for 1000's of years & many of our native flora & fauna depends on it, if there were no more farm animals the countryside would be over-run with brambles, scrub & butterflies etc that depend on a managed countryside would die out.

im not a vegan… sustainable beef farming has nothing to do with this argument. We’re talking about a fish here, hence me saying it is relevant to consider how fish are farmed

Justchilling07 · 18/07/2025 19:20

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 18:44

You're just as bad for not taking the fish to a pet shop/someone who can look after it properly. You should be ashamed of yourself. To stand by and let cruelty happen is just as bad. Also, I would leave this disgusting excuse of a man. This is the same mentality we see in gang rapes. A few men round the edges who don't want cause a fuss.

That’s harsh, op does care, just asked for different opinions, on best how to deal with this, not to be flamed.Feel for op, she has to take this on, with no support.Don’t think for one minute she’s going to allow the fish to go back.

AgnesX · 18/07/2025 19:16

sallsterm · 18/07/2025 17:50

Well why not? Both the same animal except for a perception and I'm not vegan.

Because what they're doing is stupid and for some misguided notion of fun. Catching fish for food is a different reason and a different purpose.

I'm not getting into the ethics of vegetarian/veganism. My remark was more about the intent.

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/07/2025 19:15

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 18:59

I’m simply pointing out that the question as to whether all these posters eat fish is highly relevant… if they have such strong reactions to the conditions this goldfish is being kept in, they presumably won’t be eating fish themselves unless they only eat line caught stock they caught from the sea or river as you do.

Irrelevant under the circumstances IMO.

Suspect vegan crap.

I'm talking as a farmer's daughter. I spent my childhood on a farm. We had sheep & bullocks which were kept to pay our bills. All animals kept in good conditions, but, at the end of the day, the bullocks & sheep not needed tor breeding were taken to market for meat.

We also had a small dairy herd of Guernsey cows for milk.

We kept chickens running around the farm scratching up grubs, worms etc for a living, giving us a good supply of eggs which we sold at the farm gate. My father killed the cockerels once fat enough to eat & laying birds who were aged 18 months as they were no longer economic to keep which we also ate.

The bullocks & male lambs only existed because they were going to be sold for meat. The chickens lived good 'chicken' lives scratching around, bringing up broods, but once they got too old to lay enough eggs to justify their keep they were killed & we ate them. The animal poo went onto the ground to fertilise it.

I don't get vegans - our countryside has been farmed for 1000's of years & many of our native flora & fauna depends on it, if there were no more farm animals the countryside would be over-run with brambles, scrub & butterflies etc that depend on a managed countryside would die out.

2025ismybestyear · 18/07/2025 19:13

KateShugakIsALegend · 18/07/2025 18:42

Sorry @2025ismybestyear your husband is weak or lacking in any morals if he can't stand up to that.

What? Not my husband. I don't have one anyway.

Tink3rbell30 · 18/07/2025 19:12

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 18:49

Oooo yes, telling the other partners, that’ll stop it. Excellent suggestion

I'd be naming and shaming online aswell!

MidnightMeltdown · 18/07/2025 19:08

Balloonhearts · 18/07/2025 17:06

I'm sorry, there's a tiny helpless animal suffering at the hands of people he knows, for no other reason than entertainment and he won't help it because he doesn't want to make a fuss? What kind of man is he, exactly?

Pathetic.

This. You need to confiscate the fish OP. They are all disgusting.

Alucard55 · 18/07/2025 19:05

Another thought, of the households where the fish is being passed around nobody has thought to take action?

I don't eat fish or animals.

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 18:59

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/07/2025 18:56

So, I get that you don't eat farmed fish - neither do I. However I eat fish caught at sea, or that DH catches out of a river.

I don't really get your point though.

Are you saying because other people abuse fish, this isn't really an issue? Or are you just making a point - in which case not helpful under the circumstances.

I’m simply pointing out that the question as to whether all these posters eat fish is highly relevant… if they have such strong reactions to the conditions this goldfish is being kept in, they presumably won’t be eating fish themselves unless they only eat line caught stock they caught from the sea or river as you do.

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/07/2025 18:58

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 18/07/2025 18:56

That’s shocking! Even if he does agree that it’s cruel he’s still not willing to do anything about it, and he still chooses to count these people as his friends. As the saying goes, judge a man by the company he keeps. Your DH chooses the company of people who find it funny to torture animals. I don’t know think I’d be able to get past this.

Sounds like a load of men-children playing a game & OP's husband doesn't want to stand out from the crowd. What a W@nker. 😡

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 18:57

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 18:50

Farmed fish (for food) raised on industrial farms are kept in severely crowded conditions, whether they are raised in tanks on land or in ocean pens, and nearly 40 percent of farmed fish die before the aquafarm operator is ready to slaughter them- so I’d say this question is highly relevant

Cruelty purely for fun is not the same as fish farming. Also the types of fish sold as fish and chips isn’t farmed fish. Many people avoid farmed fish (in the U.K. mostly salmon and trout) precisely due to the cruelty.

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/07/2025 18:56

Shessweetbutapsycho · 18/07/2025 18:50

Farmed fish (for food) raised on industrial farms are kept in severely crowded conditions, whether they are raised in tanks on land or in ocean pens, and nearly 40 percent of farmed fish die before the aquafarm operator is ready to slaughter them- so I’d say this question is highly relevant

So, I get that you don't eat farmed fish - neither do I. However I eat fish caught at sea, or that DH catches out of a river.

I don't really get your point though.

Are you saying because other people abuse fish, this isn't really an issue? Or are you just making a point - in which case not helpful under the circumstances.