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To ask what you think to this school new rule?

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Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 19:35

Just heard from other parents that apparently they’ll be reducing the amount of water y2 and upwards can have next year. So limiting the amount of times they can access their water bottle. This is because they’re only allowed to go to the toilets at breaks/lunch and it’s to limit toileting accidents in the classroom.

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CJsGoldfish · 17/07/2025 23:18

Gossipy parents are the worst 🙄

Children don't need a water bottle on hand at all times. Brain hydration is important, absolutely, so a glass of water in the morning before school, water laden fruits and vegetables and regular drinks of water during the day is plenty. Water during breaks satisfies that requirement

Dramatic · 17/07/2025 23:17

saraclara · 17/07/2025 23:12

It's not worth even explaining anything to you. You have no clue and you won't listen anyway.

But no, most primary classes don't have TA these days, and virtually no secondary classes do. And arranging for another member of staff to come in? That's frankly, laughable. There are none.

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That's fair enough, however we are talking about children here. Plus some people have undiagnosed bladder/bowel issues and is it really worth embarrassing a child by them having an accident in class? I had undiagnosed IBS as a child/teen and I am incredibly fortunate that teachers didn't stop me going to the toilet because I absolutely would have shit myself several times in front of the entire class.

Namechangerage · 17/07/2025 23:16

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560934P · 17/07/2025 23:15

Iloveeverycat · 17/07/2025 19:41

Ridiculous. If they had access to a toilet anytime there wouldn't be any accidents.

Do you how many times teachers have had to get children who are messing around in toilets....? Yes some children have toilet passes but the others have ample time to go to the toilet at break and at lunch. Its so hard for teachers when they don't have a TA and a child or children are missing from the classroom.

Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 23:13

BogRollBOGOF · 17/07/2025 23:07

Another survior of 80-90s education on a drink (200ml?) at breakfast, a sip/ glug from the fountain in the toilets at break, a small cup on the lunch tray (150ml?) at lunch and that was that until home time.
I avoided school milk as much as I could get away with too Envy

Children weren't floundering with dehydration and nothing significant has changed since then to make constant access to bottles an essential part of survival to children without specific health concerns. Having a bottle avaliable to drink more at suitable intervals is a fair middle ground, but it doesn't have to be constant.

Bottles can be mis-used for disruptive and evasive behaviour. In my youth group, if it's a bit of a dry, talky badgework night, it's funny how much more the children drift off to the corner with the bottles, and how many more toilet requests we have compared to more active, engaging nights. And these are children that want to be there. In schools, it can be far worse, and it is reasonable for schools to manage access to water to cut disruption and off-task behaviour.

School milk was awful when I went. It was in small cartons that had been left in the sun. And it was always lumpy

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IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 17/07/2025 23:13

MissedItByThisMuch · 17/07/2025 23:12

As an anaesthetist I can tell you that happens rarely and only during operations that are many many hours long - surgeons (and anaesthetists for that matter), like people in many other jobs where they don’t have constant access to water, are perfectly capable of going a few hours without drinking.

This idea that there will be adverse health outcomes from not constantly slurping water is a (highly successful clearly) marketing construct of the bottled water industry. It’s bizarre how quickly it has become accepted as a basic truth.

Thank you.

MissedItByThisMuch · 17/07/2025 23:12

Welikebeingcosy · 17/07/2025 22:43

Pretty sure I've seen videos of surgeons having a straw from a carton of ribena held into their mouth for them during surgery.

As an anaesthetist I can tell you that happens rarely and only during operations that are many many hours long - surgeons (and anaesthetists for that matter), like people in many other jobs where they don’t have constant access to water, are perfectly capable of going a few hours without drinking.

This idea that there will be adverse health outcomes from not constantly slurping water is a (highly successful clearly) marketing construct of the bottled water industry. It’s bizarre how quickly it has become accepted as a basic truth.

saraclara · 17/07/2025 23:12

Neverlookback32 · 17/07/2025 23:07

Obviously they can't leave children unsupervised. But they absolutely are allowed to use the toilet if they need to, as long as they arrange for another staff member to supervise while they go. There are often teaching assistants in most primary classes anyway.

It's not worth even explaining anything to you. You have no clue and you won't listen anyway.

But no, most primary classes don't have TA these days, and virtually no secondary classes do. And arranging for another member of staff to come in? That's frankly, laughable. There are none.

BogRollBOGOF · 17/07/2025 23:10

pontipinemum · 17/07/2025 22:57

My DC aren't at that age yet so I might change my opinion. But I don't think they need them all day long. It was the 00s when I went to school we were not allowed to have drinks in class. We were allowed to go to the toilet if we really needed to but it wasn't really allowed.

DS is now 3 he is constantly making me stop the car because he 'has' to pee. He hardly ever does have to it's just something to do. I can absolutely see him needing the loo constantly as an excuse to get out of the class room.

Like when we were kids and would spend ages sharpening pencils at the bin

That's brought back flashbacks to "the pencil sharpening club"
Gosh that class could rattle through a pencil, yet strangely make few marks with it Grin

Bringmeahigherlove · 17/07/2025 23:08

Go into a school for one day. Any school. You will realise why they’re putting this rule in place.

Neverlookback32 · 17/07/2025 23:07

saraclara · 17/07/2025 23:02

A teacher can walk out, leaving their class unsupervised, to go to the toilet? No they can't.

Obviously they can't leave children unsupervised. But they absolutely are allowed to use the toilet if they need to, as long as they arrange for another staff member to supervise while they go. There are often teaching assistants in most primary classes anyway.

BogRollBOGOF · 17/07/2025 23:07

Another survior of 80-90s education on a drink (200ml?) at breakfast, a sip/ glug from the fountain in the toilets at break, a small cup on the lunch tray (150ml?) at lunch and that was that until home time.
I avoided school milk as much as I could get away with too Envy

Children weren't floundering with dehydration and nothing significant has changed since then to make constant access to bottles an essential part of survival to children without specific health concerns. Having a bottle avaliable to drink more at suitable intervals is a fair middle ground, but it doesn't have to be constant.

Bottles can be mis-used for disruptive and evasive behaviour. In my youth group, if it's a bit of a dry, talky badgework night, it's funny how much more the children drift off to the corner with the bottles, and how many more toilet requests we have compared to more active, engaging nights. And these are children that want to be there. In schools, it can be far worse, and it is reasonable for schools to manage access to water to cut disruption and off-task behaviour.

TwoPointOh · 17/07/2025 23:03

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 17/07/2025 22:38

But the children are not any of those things, they are children, in a school.

I feel like you may have been out of the classroom and in the toilets when debating was being taught at your school.

saraclara · 17/07/2025 23:02

Neverlookback32 · 17/07/2025 22:56

Which is exactly why a classroom environment isnt ideal for many children. Not being allowed to use the toilet? Or have a drink when thirsty?
Its so bad for children to hold a full bladder or bowel. A lot of children have overactive bladders or suffer anxiety in the absence of an accessible toilet.
And I have never worked anywhere where im not allowed to use the toilet or have a drink if im thirsty. And I dont know anyone that does. Teachers seem to always have a mug of something on their desks all day long. They can dismiss themselves for bathroom breaks. Your point is invalid.

A teacher can walk out, leaving their class unsupervised, to go to the toilet? No they can't.

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/07/2025 23:01

souter · 17/07/2025 21:17

As others have said it depends on how they are implementing it. No access to water for long periods of time, is not ok, but telling children they can’t go during the teacher input, or during assembly is perfectly fine and stops disruption. If anything it teaches children to manage their water intake.
It never ceases to amaze me how riled some people get about this. I once had a parent threaten me with governors/ Ofsted etc because I didn’t let them have a drink when they asked. Apparently their child having to sit through a 15 assembly without a drink was ‘against their human rights’, even though they were reminded to have a drink before they went and could have one as soon as they returned to class!

I agree with you, but are we really calling lessons "teacher input" now?

Vitrolinsanity · 17/07/2025 22:57

Well, when you have half the class doing the water bottle challenge rather than maths, you may think differently.

pontipinemum · 17/07/2025 22:57

My DC aren't at that age yet so I might change my opinion. But I don't think they need them all day long. It was the 00s when I went to school we were not allowed to have drinks in class. We were allowed to go to the toilet if we really needed to but it wasn't really allowed.

DS is now 3 he is constantly making me stop the car because he 'has' to pee. He hardly ever does have to it's just something to do. I can absolutely see him needing the loo constantly as an excuse to get out of the class room.

Like when we were kids and would spend ages sharpening pencils at the bin

Neverlookback32 · 17/07/2025 22:56

saraclara · 17/07/2025 22:47

If you home educated 30 kids at a time, you'd soon cut down in their autonomy.

Oddly enough, working adults don't have a whole lot of autonomy either. That's life.

Which is exactly why a classroom environment isnt ideal for many children. Not being allowed to use the toilet? Or have a drink when thirsty?
Its so bad for children to hold a full bladder or bowel. A lot of children have overactive bladders or suffer anxiety in the absence of an accessible toilet.
And I have never worked anywhere where im not allowed to use the toilet or have a drink if im thirsty. And I dont know anyone that does. Teachers seem to always have a mug of something on their desks all day long. They can dismiss themselves for bathroom breaks. Your point is invalid.

chillidoritto · 17/07/2025 22:55

Good on the school I say! At the high school I work at, all drinks must stay in bags, for reasons that many others have cited. They can be filled at break and dinner only.

We are one of “those schools” that doesn’t allow kids to go to the toilets during lessons (bar medical reasons or a genuine reason - ie kid is obviously desperate). Sadly that rule had to be introduced because most visits to the toilet were just to get out of lessons / meet up with friends / go on phones.

VehicleTracker77 · 17/07/2025 22:50

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Hankunamatata · 17/07/2025 22:49

Any chance kids are playing with waterbottles, knocking them over, chucking them at each other?

EggnogNoggin · 17/07/2025 22:48

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/07/2025 22:41

So wait... what? Sugar damages teeth?

It does! But apparently shitloads of parents don't because it continues to be on the increase in kids despite people supposedly being aware 🤔

Weird, right?

Nt23 · 17/07/2025 22:48

Blank1234 · 17/07/2025 20:13

There’s always one …

I'm a teacher, trust me, there's always more than one!

Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 22:48

I have the same experience, only drank from water fountains at school, never took a water bottle.

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Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 22:47

Can I just say, I’m not over reacting, I don’t really have much opinion at the moment. I’m just asking what others think for opinions because it’s new to me. DD is going into y2 in September. There’s a ‘WhatsApp group’ and lots of mums are on there complaining about it amongst themselves. (I am not on it.)

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