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Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 19:35

Just heard from other parents that apparently they’ll be reducing the amount of water y2 and upwards can have next year. So limiting the amount of times they can access their water bottle. This is because they’re only allowed to go to the toilets at breaks/lunch and it’s to limit toileting accidents in the classroom.

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CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 10:14

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 21:38

What a strange response - why would it 'specifically' state exactly how to do it? Restricting access to water isn't going to help though. It also doesn't specifically state when kids can use the toilet but presumably they should also be allowed to when needed too.

Your post suggested that the ERIC website listed this actions as what schools SHOULD do when they were simply ideas schools might consider in order to make it easier for kids to drink.

I agree that more should be done to make it easier for kids to go to the loo-I think it’s shocking that some schools sometimes lock loos. That seems to me much more important than fretting about them sometimes going 60 minutes without water.

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 09:59

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 09:54

Oh so some schools don't allow kids to go to the toilet.

If you’ve ever been a teacher and seen the behaviour of kids nowadays, you’d understand why this rule has had to be brought in.
You do realise that there are a huge number of children who used “needing the toilet” a an excuse to vandalise toilets, bunk from lessons, bully other children and generally disrupt their own learning and the learning of others.

FWIW, I always let my kids go to the toilet in my lessons, but not two at a time and I was also careful to spot the ‘repeat offenders’ who were just doing it to get out of working.

Kids do not need to be guzzling water all day. That’s what this thread is about.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 09:54

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 09:49

Well given I was a secondary school teacher who trained in and then worked in a number of schools, I can assure you that none of the schools I worked in blocked children from using toilets between lessons or at break/lunch. And if a girl needed to use the toilet in lessons due to her period, she was allowed to go.
Some schools did not let children use the toilet during lessons unless in an emergency, but this isn’t exactly a breach of human rights. Within an hour, they’d be allowed to go to the toilet between the next lesson. It’s no different than not being able to go to the loo on a car journey until the next service station, yet we don’t scream about human rights in that situation, do we?

Oh so some schools don't allow kids to go to the toilet.

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 09:49

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 09:36

Doesn't mean it isn't- just because it doesn't suit your narrative. Fairly pointless conversation if you deny everything put to you. Show me the evidence schools freely allow kids to use the toilet when they need it? I can't see the evidence.

Well given I was a secondary school teacher who trained in and then worked in a number of schools, I can assure you that none of the schools I worked in blocked children from using toilets between lessons or at break/lunch. And if a girl needed to use the toilet in lessons due to her period, she was allowed to go.
Some schools did not let children use the toilet during lessons unless in an emergency, but this isn’t exactly a breach of human rights. Within an hour, they’d be allowed to go to the toilet between the next lesson. It’s no different than not being able to go to the loo on a car journey until the next service station, yet we don’t scream about human rights in that situation, do we?

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 09:36

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 07:21

Two thirds of schools block access to toilets? Rubbish. They don’t back up those claims with anything other than ‘studies show’.
Try sifting through your ‘journalism’ and recognising what is sensationalist nonsense.

You can find anything on google to support any argument you want, it’s worth keeping that in mind. It doesn’t mean it’s right.

Doesn't mean it isn't- just because it doesn't suit your narrative. Fairly pointless conversation if you deny everything put to you. Show me the evidence schools freely allow kids to use the toilet when they need it? I can't see the evidence.

Zonder · 20/07/2025 07:31

This rule probably wasn't even true. It appeared on a parent WhatsApp group. I bet someone's kid got told they couldn't go get another drink and they told their parent who decided it was a new school rule. Op never actually confirmed it was true, did they?

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 07:21

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 23:49

A simple Google will find them...plenty on BBC news, other news channels, this site and education groups, health, bladder charities and more local discussion groups.
Here's a starter...in an Ed publication Students on their periods unable to access school toilets https://share.google/ea1MbmN6gNOAgIMgd

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Two thirds of schools block access to toilets? Rubbish. They don’t back up those claims with anything other than ‘studies show’.
Try sifting through your ‘journalism’ and recognising what is sensationalist nonsense.

You can find anything on google to support any argument you want, it’s worth keeping that in mind. It doesn’t mean it’s right.

Mumwithbaggage · 20/07/2025 00:21

Girls with periods (primary) have access to loos in my school at all times and that includes the staff loo where sanitary products are readily available. I say this as a teacher in a school with a very high number of GRT children where often talking of periods is taboo.

The drinks on the other hand... No-one needs a 2 pint stanley cup of water (or similarish) between 9am and 10.30!!

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 23:49

Pricelessadvice · 19/07/2025 22:47

Where are these posts about kids wetting themselves in class and bleeding through?

A simple Google will find them...plenty on BBC news, other news channels, this site and education groups, health, bladder charities and more local discussion groups.
Here's a starter...in an Ed publication Students on their periods unable to access school toilets https://share.google/ea1MbmN6gNOAgIMgd

Wolfpinkola · 19/07/2025 23:41

Sounds sensible to me, everyone survived without water bottles previously

user1471516498 · 19/07/2025 23:38

We would have a glass of water with lunch, and that was it. There was no water at break time, and anyway, the toilets were not open at break times. If you have not drunk anything since breakfast you can easily go through to.lunchtime.

Pricelessadvice · 19/07/2025 22:47

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 21:28

Yes I do. There are more and more posts where kids are wetting themselves in class/bleeding through because they are not being allowed to use the toilet. There are news reports celebrating 'the strictest heads/schools'. This is a growing culture and it is frankly awful.

Where are these posts about kids wetting themselves in class and bleeding through?

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 21:38

CurlewKate · 19/07/2025 20:49

It doesn’t say schools should specifically do all those things. It says “Schools should consider how they could facilitate good drinking habits among all their learners. This may include:….”

And, unless I’ve missed it, there’s no research backing that leaflet up either.

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What a strange response - why would it 'specifically' state exactly how to do it? Restricting access to water isn't going to help though. It also doesn't specifically state when kids can use the toilet but presumably they should also be allowed to when needed too.

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 21:28

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 21:17

Clearly you mean some secondary schools, for whatever reason you hold very extreme views, the majority of schools are not prison camps, you dont actually believe that do you?

Yes I do. There are more and more posts where kids are wetting themselves in class/bleeding through because they are not being allowed to use the toilet. There are news reports celebrating 'the strictest heads/schools'. This is a growing culture and it is frankly awful.

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 21:17

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 20:31

But it still applies to secondary schools regardless of this particular thread.

Clearly you mean some secondary schools, for whatever reason you hold very extreme views, the majority of schools are not prison camps, you dont actually believe that do you?

CurlewKate · 19/07/2025 20:49

It doesn’t say schools should specifically do all those things. It says “Schools should consider how they could facilitate good drinking habits among all their learners. This may include:….”

And, unless I’ve missed it, there’s no research backing that leaflet up either.

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 20:38

CurlewKate · 19/07/2025 20:27

The ERIC website recommends 3-4 cups of water during school time. Before school, break, lunch and after school. Nobody has a problem with that.

Before and after school is not during school. It also states

  • Open access to drinks unless this is clearly inappropriate, for example, in science or computer laboratories
  • Provision of easily accessible water fountains or taps to top-up water bottles
  • Encouraging learners to bring their own water bottles in from home, or providing water bottles in school.
Kids are already not drinking enough because schools don't allow them access to toilets.
mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 20:31

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 20:25

None of those things apply to the 7 year olds this thread is about

But it still applies to secondary schools regardless of this particular thread.

CurlewKate · 19/07/2025 20:27

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 19:51

Education doesn't matter more than health, and as for those commenting "we didn't in my day" well that's what progress is. We used to have kids up chimneys and workhouses, no sanitation or clean water thankfully previous generations where happy to move on from "we didn't in my day".
eric.org.uk/schools-and-nurseries/

The ERIC website recommends 3-4 cups of water during school time. Before school, break, lunch and after school. Nobody has a problem with that.

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 20:25

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 20:17

Except you seem to think there are these free times to do this. They have to walk the corridors in silence, not be late when transferring to lessons, have limited breaks, many don't even have time to go to the toilet (if they are lucky enough to be unlocked). They are so regimented in how they have to behave. Kids should be treated humanely and not as if they are in prison camps.

None of those things apply to the 7 year olds this thread is about

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 20:17

Jumpthewaves · 19/07/2025 20:07

But it's healthier for children not to constantly sip drinks so having specific times at regular intervals is the best of both worlds.

Except you seem to think there are these free times to do this. They have to walk the corridors in silence, not be late when transferring to lessons, have limited breaks, many don't even have time to go to the toilet (if they are lucky enough to be unlocked). They are so regimented in how they have to behave. Kids should be treated humanely and not as if they are in prison camps.

Jumpthewaves · 19/07/2025 20:07

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 19:51

Education doesn't matter more than health, and as for those commenting "we didn't in my day" well that's what progress is. We used to have kids up chimneys and workhouses, no sanitation or clean water thankfully previous generations where happy to move on from "we didn't in my day".
eric.org.uk/schools-and-nurseries/

But it's healthier for children not to constantly sip drinks so having specific times at regular intervals is the best of both worlds.

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 19:51

Education doesn't matter more than health, and as for those commenting "we didn't in my day" well that's what progress is. We used to have kids up chimneys and workhouses, no sanitation or clean water thankfully previous generations where happy to move on from "we didn't in my day".
eric.org.uk/schools-and-nurseries/

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 18:48

CurlewKate · 19/07/2025 15:28

I hesitate to post this-but does anyone feel a little uncomfortable focussing on our privileged developed world children’s constant access to water (which is absolutely not a “science thing”) when 450m children worldwide do not have access to to clean drinking water?
And, yes I know some children have a medical need…..

Perhaps the posters whose little darlings couldn't possibly manage a short while without a drink would like to answer that one

Pinkrinse · 19/07/2025 18:09

Pricelessadvice · 17/07/2025 19:37

Years ago we were only allowed a drink at break and lunch. We all survived.
I’m not sure why kids have to permanently be attached to a water bottle nowadays.

We never needed water all the time. I agree with above.