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Redsatin109 · 17/07/2025 19:35

Just heard from other parents that apparently they’ll be reducing the amount of water y2 and upwards can have next year. So limiting the amount of times they can access their water bottle. This is because they’re only allowed to go to the toilets at breaks/lunch and it’s to limit toileting accidents in the classroom.

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blacklabradorsandchilledrose · 20/07/2025 20:03

TheGrimSmile · 17/07/2025 19:37

I think it's awful. Schools are like little prisons. Not about education and all about control. It's why l left teaching.

Oh FFS. Don’t be bloody dramatic.

It probably IS about trying to control all the little darlings whose parents happily encourage them to do that the hell they want. And I agree with them.
who’d want to be a teacher nowadays.

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 19:51

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 19:45

And you believe access to water is the only thing that will enable disruptive kids to disrupt! Disruptive kids will disrupt regardless.

It’s a massive issue in schools nowadays. If it wasn’t, no-one would be bothered. Are you a teacher?
Go in and teach a class of 30 teenagers all sucking on water bottles, spilling water, spraying each other with water, wanting to fill them up, needing the toilet, scrunching the bottles and making noise…
The average lesson is an hour. There is absolutely no problem with expecting a healthy child to wait an hour to have a drink.

You seem determined to make schools out to be evil prisons. The reality is that schools are there to educate children, it’s not a baby sitting service.
Don’t like the rules of that school? Find a different school.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 19:45

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 19:42

It’s also about educating children. The education of other children is often ruined by trouble makers or those messing around.
Teachers being unable to do their jobs means children’s education suffers.

And you believe access to water is the only thing that will enable disruptive kids to disrupt! Disruptive kids will disrupt regardless.

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 19:42

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 19:36

Let's be honest, the desire to reduce access to water is nothing to do with the health or environment of the child but all to do with making the teachers job easier.

It’s also about educating children. The education of other children is often ruined by trouble makers or those messing around.
Teachers being unable to do their jobs means children’s education suffers.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 19:36

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 19:27

Judging by how many poorly behaved children there are in classes nowadays, who are completely unable to concentrate/sit still/follow instructions, I’m going to go with the theory that maybe constant access to water isn’t the brain boost some people think it is 😅

Let's be honest, the desire to reduce access to water is nothing to do with the health or environment of the child but all to do with making the teachers job easier.

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 19:27

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 17:15

As I said earlier-we are so lucky that this,frankly, bonkers debate is one we have the luxury of taking part in.
Incidentally, are today’s well hydrated children better at concentrating and healthier than those of 25 years ago?

Judging by how many poorly behaved children there are in classes nowadays, who are completely unable to concentrate/sit still/follow instructions, I’m going to go with the theory that maybe constant access to water isn’t the brain boost some people think it is 😅

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 17:15

As I said earlier-we are so lucky that this,frankly, bonkers debate is one we have the luxury of taking part in.
Incidentally, are today’s well hydrated children better at concentrating and healthier than those of 25 years ago?

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 16:54

Soontobe60 · 20/07/2025 16:26

Your link doesn’t say that sipping water is better, it just recommends it. Having a sip or two of water before the start of a lesson is absolutely fine - leave the bottles at the side of the classroom. There’s barely enough room on the desks as it is, spilled water is bloody annoying when it ruins someone’s work and it’s yet another distraction that kids fiddle with. My kids in class don’t have their equipment out until it’s needed - anyone who finds they need something to fiddle with can have a piece of blu tac. Try it, it’s very therapeutic!

If its recommending sipping presumably it's in preference to gulping large amounts. I would recommend bottles that have tops on so they don't spill. Many schools insist on equipment put on the desk immediately at the start of the class. I don't need to fiddle with bluetac thanks, and I have a lovely bottle of water on my desk.
Sipping vs. Gulping: HOW you drink may matter more than HOW MUCH https://share.google/8KGlo4SuNfnHMhpwi

Sipping vs. Gulping: HOW you drink may matter more than HOW MUCH

Water consumption is something we hear a lot about. We all know water is essential for life, and being adequately hydrated has all sorts of physical and mental health benefits. For years, we had the recommendation of 8 eight-oz glasses of water each...

https://www.pelvicsanity.com/2018/01/31/sipping-vs-gulping-how-you-drink-may-matter-more-than-how-much

Smallhaircut · 20/07/2025 16:30

I don’t ever remember having water in lessons when I was a child at primary - we just had a drink at breaks and lunch and then when we got home.
so, they’ll have a drink before starting, break at around 10:30 and then lunch at 12:00 and then another break most likely at around 2:15 and then home at 3:15. If this is correct, they’ll go at most 1.5 hours without a drink? Doesn’t seem like a “prison” to me.
Honestly, some kids really take the biscuit with free tying up for water constantly, and then need the toilet every 30 mins. I don’t see why kids need to be stuck to water bottles constantly now.
I would check the truth in what has been said though.

Soontobe60 · 20/07/2025 16:26

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 15:31

People seem to have confused sipping water as dangerous for the kidney. This is only dangerous for those on dialysis. Sipping water is a better way to stay hydrated and is recommended.

Hydration for kidney health | Dehydration and the kidneys share.google/Oa6SHJdtbXQDfwt0Q

Your link doesn’t say that sipping water is better, it just recommends it. Having a sip or two of water before the start of a lesson is absolutely fine - leave the bottles at the side of the classroom. There’s barely enough room on the desks as it is, spilled water is bloody annoying when it ruins someone’s work and it’s yet another distraction that kids fiddle with. My kids in class don’t have their equipment out until it’s needed - anyone who finds they need something to fiddle with can have a piece of blu tac. Try it, it’s very therapeutic!

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 15:31

People seem to have confused sipping water as dangerous for the kidney. This is only dangerous for those on dialysis. Sipping water is a better way to stay hydrated and is recommended.

Hydration for kidney health | Dehydration and the kidneys share.google/Oa6SHJdtbXQDfwt0Q

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 15:08

Jumpthewaves · 20/07/2025 14:19

But constant sipping has been found to have a negative impact on the kidneys and the general distraction of the water bottles isnt helpful for focus and retention. A good balance is drinks at regular intervals, which makes sense.

So how? Should they schedule a 5 minute drinking time at the start or end of each lesson? And you are assuming that kids are constantly sipping as opposed to having a drink at a regular interval which happens to be during a lesson. So if you remove the bottle does that guarantee those 'fidgeting' won't do it with their pencil case, ruler, pen, hair (pick any item).

Jumpthewaves · 20/07/2025 14:19

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 13:58

But why? It's not about preventing the extreme of dehydration. It's about drinking as and when a person chooses to. It's about good hydration, improved concentration, prevention of kidney, bowel, bladder, continence issues and promoting good healthy habits. It's about autonomy and learning to make good choices. All these benefits are proven by medical knowledge of these conditions. All referred to by Eric and other bowel, kidney charities and medical experts. Yet you seem to think their knowledge, experience and medical qualifications aren't sufficient.

But constant sipping has been found to have a negative impact on the kidneys and the general distraction of the water bottles isnt helpful for focus and retention. A good balance is drinks at regular intervals, which makes sense.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 13:58

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 13:49

Science supporting the assertion that normally healthy children in the developed word will become dehydrated without constant access to water.

But why? It's not about preventing the extreme of dehydration. It's about drinking as and when a person chooses to. It's about good hydration, improved concentration, prevention of kidney, bowel, bladder, continence issues and promoting good healthy habits. It's about autonomy and learning to make good choices. All these benefits are proven by medical knowledge of these conditions. All referred to by Eric and other bowel, kidney charities and medical experts. Yet you seem to think their knowledge, experience and medical qualifications aren't sufficient.

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 13:49

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:20

Science for what?

Science supporting the assertion that normally healthy children in the developed word will become dehydrated without constant access to water.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 12:12

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/07/2025 11:41

Desperate people do things to survive.
Child labour exists in many countries today for the same reasons. Hunger, desperation, and survival.

And whats your point in relation to that apparently being a reason not to change or improve treatment of kids because "we did it in my day".

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/07/2025 11:41

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 11:34

But they still did it.

Desperate people do things to survive.
Child labour exists in many countries today for the same reasons. Hunger, desperation, and survival.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 11:34

MimiGC · 20/07/2025 11:14

Of course they knew then that sending kids up chimneys was bad for their health. Do you think rich kids were made to do that?! Of course not, it was only the poor and desperate.

But they still did it.

MimiGC · 20/07/2025 11:14

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:45

Mmm..I guess they didn't think sending kids up chimneys was bad for their health at the time....but they subsequently realised. And my point was in relation to the response of "we didn't in my day" and we need to learn and change.

Of course they knew then that sending kids up chimneys was bad for their health. Do you think rich kids were made to do that?! Of course not, it was only the poor and desperate.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:45

MimiGC · 20/07/2025 10:36

You are using hyperbolic examples from the past. Sending children up chimneys or putting them in workhouses is obviously barbaric and bad for their health. Denying them constant access to drinks throughout the day is neither.

Mmm..I guess they didn't think sending kids up chimneys was bad for their health at the time....but they subsequently realised. And my point was in relation to the response of "we didn't in my day" and we need to learn and change.

MimiGC · 20/07/2025 10:36

mumatlast14 · 19/07/2025 19:51

Education doesn't matter more than health, and as for those commenting "we didn't in my day" well that's what progress is. We used to have kids up chimneys and workhouses, no sanitation or clean water thankfully previous generations where happy to move on from "we didn't in my day".
eric.org.uk/schools-and-nurseries/

You are using hyperbolic examples from the past. Sending children up chimneys or putting them in workhouses is obviously barbaric and bad for their health. Denying them constant access to drinks throughout the day is neither.

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:21

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 10:14

Your post suggested that the ERIC website listed this actions as what schools SHOULD do when they were simply ideas schools might consider in order to make it easier for kids to drink.

I agree that more should be done to make it easier for kids to go to the loo-I think it’s shocking that some schools sometimes lock loos. That seems to me much more important than fretting about them sometimes going 60 minutes without water.

How is it going 60mins without water?

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:20

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 10:14

Still no science, by the way!

Science for what?

mumatlast14 · 20/07/2025 10:19

Pricelessadvice · 20/07/2025 09:59

If you’ve ever been a teacher and seen the behaviour of kids nowadays, you’d understand why this rule has had to be brought in.
You do realise that there are a huge number of children who used “needing the toilet” a an excuse to vandalise toilets, bunk from lessons, bully other children and generally disrupt their own learning and the learning of others.

FWIW, I always let my kids go to the toilet in my lessons, but not two at a time and I was also careful to spot the ‘repeat offenders’ who were just doing it to get out of working.

Kids do not need to be guzzling water all day. That’s what this thread is about.

So you are able to use other methods to ensure good behaviour and allow toilet access - which is exactly as it should be. Therefore we should also be able to use methods that allow kids to drink when they need it without restricting access.

CurlewKate · 20/07/2025 10:14

Still no science, by the way!