AIBU to agree with Diane Abbott

That’s absolutely not what was said and you know it. The poster was saying that DA always gets vilified. This is true. The poster did not say WHY that was. You jumped to the PoC thing. I think there are other factors. If you look upthread you’ll see that DA was the object of a vastly disproportionate percentage of abuse. So the poster is completely correct. Diane does always get vilified. Statistics prove it.

There's nothing cool about being spat on by racists. 🙄

Oh please are we really going to pretend that Reeves and Raynor are accused of having chip on shoulder, using race card, always harping on about their ethnicity, being angry the list goes on

of course they get criticism they are prominent women but the do not get it with a load of racism thrown at them too and with Diane Abbott it’s always there because she dares to address it time and time again

you do not have to agree with her opinions but to make such a frankly ridiculous comparison shows your utter ignorance

Are you bored, hun?

Oh you're giving me the love reaction emoji? The laughing emoji was removed for being inappropriately used. You've got to love hypocrites.

I agree. But you can't hide being a traveler and still be a traveler can you? It's stopping living your heritage, culture and all that. Like being a Christian who doesn't practice the faith. Your not really a Christian any more. But I get what you mean in that you could try to hide it unlike your skin.

But even just saying that and thinking that is all kinds of wrong. Imagine if say travelers was all red heads and someone implied you could experience less discrimination if you just dyed your hair.

Cool - try removing your skin though.

Here's another🙄

I'm a Londoner & have

LOL. K.

Oh come on, i’ve been spat on by racists and I think she’s just got a problem with Jews. Wear a kippah in public and you are going to get shit from every arsehole who passes you.

As a Londoner, I can say with all honesty that I’ve never seen a Traveller as far as I know and I’ve lived here for 50 years.

Well, I hope you can explain why Reeves and Raynor get so much criticism. Last time I checked, they were white.

rolls those eyes right back at you

Thanks, I have my own and don't need those at all.

Exactly. All Jews whether whether immediately identifiable on sight or not suffer racism in that their lives are impacted by it. Pretty much every Jewish organisation, even a jewish event, has to have some level of security whether its a school, a cultural centre, a museum, or a synagogue. They have to spend time evaluating risk, they have to spend money on security systems and guards and they have to live with tbose restrictions as a part of life. And this was true long before 7 October. And Diane Abbott knows this because she has a significant Jewish population in her constituency.

I don’t particularly like her but I kind of admire her. I think she’s been treated appallingly

I love when people rewrite history to exclude colonialism and slavery.

Bravo.

You can often spot a traveller without them talking...what about hasidic jews?

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Not at all, she's obviously right.

The press and, well society as a whole, just hate Black women with a voice.

I get you, I also read you wrong!

And no, not defending her and her letter at all. I’m trying to give her the benefit of the doubt when I say ‘badly worded’, to be honest. Ignorant is probably a better reason. I don’t think it’s worse than that, I hope it’s not worse than that. She has said some amazing things during her time, and she has also said some complete and utter bullshit. I understand why she is so divisive.

I’m an ethnic minority and I think anti-semitism is a unique sort of prejudice. No-one has genocided my people and then blamed me afterwards for it. I don’t think you could get away with a lot of the stuff implied about Jews regularly if you did against my people.

I think a thug on the street may more readily identify me than a Jew but I also think I don’t feel the kind of hatred that many Jews are feeling right now. That’s in Europe, america, the arab world. No wonder so many Jews are so fiercely protective of Israel frankly.

We have become tolerant of a level of anti-semitism in the west that is frankly despicable. How many times are Jews in the news for criminal activity and terrorism? What is the hate based on? None of my places of worship require security, not a single one.

How can racism be more overt than the Holocaust??
I mean surely that’s got to be the purest expression of racism there has ever been. Nothing similar has been done to black people because of their race, by another race.
She’s just plain wrong. It’s just another way to minimise the deep racism and prejudice Jewish people have always experienced and I don’t know why people keep bloody doing it.

She's always vilified? So you believe she should be untouchable because she's a POC? That's as condescending as her own ignorance.

Well if they aren’t white, they can be subject to residue on sight.