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To be worries? 0 on phonics screening.

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lollilou2 · 17/07/2025 11:05

My DS5, in year 1, got 0 on his phonics screening. They done 12 words with him, then decided not to carry on.

We read to him every night, he can’t read to us as he can’t read yet, but what else can be done to support him at home? He does small group work at school, is there anything else school can do to help him along? He is already on the SEN register but that’s due to speech and language.

OP posts:
Autumn1990 · 17/07/2025 12:10

is it that he knows the sound the two letters make and he can’t say them? Because I’ve got a slightly younger one who has this problem with some sounds. I can lay out the set 2 and 3 sound cards and the say a sound and she will pick the correct card up. She can do the same for words but cant say every word.
If school support you and put pressure on SALT saying it’s affecting learning he should get some more sessions. Some areas have group sessions as well. SALT should have given you things to practice at home.

Fundayout2025 · 17/07/2025 12:10

DPotter · 17/07/2025 11:44

No direct help to you now OP but I can't 'do' phonics. Yes I can sound out C A T but it's just parrot fashion, doesn't connect with anything in my head so to speak. I learnt to read by pattern recognition rather than sounding out the words.

I am however educated to Masters degree level and have held down responsible jobs all my working career. I am appalling at spelling but I'm an avid recreational reader, always have been.

What I'm trying to say is that phonics is not the only way to learn to read, although it does seem to be the only way it is taught. Keep reading to your boy, especially over the holidays, and not just simple books, but ones with lovely engaging stories.

Yes I'm exactly the same regards the phonics

lollilou2 · 17/07/2025 12:02

He has his eyes checked by ophthalmology every three months as he does wear glasses (+4.50) and has nystagmus. His hearing has recently been checked and is fine.

It is specifically the blending he is having trouble with, he can tell us the letters used, but when it comes to putting them together he can’t manage.

He has just finished a block of SALT, he has problems pronouncing words which have two consonants together, he has a follow up in Spring.

The school have reiterated that he will do small group work with a TA when he goes into Year 2, but that’s it really.

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coffeegirl73 · 17/07/2025 11:55

DD didn’t read properly until she was 8 nearly 9. It just didn’t click with her. The school were pulling her out of class for what they used to call remedial English. Then suddenly she seemed to “get it” and read voraciously. She’s doing English at uni now. Personally I think there is way too much pressure on primary school kids to hit certain targets by a certain age. Kids develop at different rates and in different ways. Honestly OP I would try and relax and just do lots of play and chatting. They pick up our stress straight away which can have the opposite effect and make them scared or nervous and then it’s a catch 22 and they’re too young to be getting into all that. Enjoy the summer - as I say lots and lots of play and chatting and books to look at. HTH

AutumnFog · 17/07/2025 11:50

Spend 5 minutes 2 or 3 times a day learning letter sounds. Pick 3 letters, focus on them until he's got them, then add some more and do one check of the ones he knows per day too so he doesn't forget them.

Once he knows all the letter sounds move onto blending them together by saying each letter sound eg "d - o - g" then telling him to try and say it quicker to see if he can tell what the word is.
It's a slow process but with short bursts of regular practice he should eventually begin to remember them at his own pace.

Make it fun with colouring or painting letter print outs, flashcards, a sticker book that he gets a sticker for after each practice.

Do lots of praise, even if he's not getting them right keep it very positive telling him how well he's doing. Our DD has SEN and it's so important to give lots of praise, tell him he's clever when he's doing things he does find easy (even something like pointing out eg a ladybird and naming it, find opportunities to tell him he's clever) as it does get hard for them as they're getting older and noticing others understand more than them at school. Building self esteem and a sense of pride in what they can achieve is more important than how quickly they learn things.

Monvelo · 17/07/2025 11:46

School should be able to tell you what extra interventions they're putting in place.

DPotter · 17/07/2025 11:44

No direct help to you now OP but I can't 'do' phonics. Yes I can sound out C A T but it's just parrot fashion, doesn't connect with anything in my head so to speak. I learnt to read by pattern recognition rather than sounding out the words.

I am however educated to Masters degree level and have held down responsible jobs all my working career. I am appalling at spelling but I'm an avid recreational reader, always have been.

What I'm trying to say is that phonics is not the only way to learn to read, although it does seem to be the only way it is taught. Keep reading to your boy, especially over the holidays, and not just simple books, but ones with lovely engaging stories.

cumbriaisbest · 17/07/2025 11:38

poor little soul. Children do develop at different rates.

modgepodge · 17/07/2025 11:37

Yes, you are right to be concerned. But it sounds like it shouldn’t be a surprise to you as you are already aware of SEN, specifically speech and language. Children with S&L problems are often behind in phonics - if they cannot hear or say the sounds of course they can’t sound out and blend.

The school has to put extra support in place for any y2s who don’t get the pass mark so your child will get this. But they will need more than just that, as they obviously missed by a long way. Are they getting s&l help? Have you had eyes and ears tested too? Have you asked school what additional help they’ll get?

Reading eggs is a really good app for early readers if you think your child would engage with that.

BendingSpoons · 17/07/2025 11:35

Where is he with phonics? Are there some letters he recognises and can make the sound? Can he blend any sounds together?

Phonics stage 1 is about listening to general sounds, not letter sounds. You could look at that if you think it is needed. You could also look at phonological awareness e.g. rhyme, clapping beats in a word and do some of these early bits e.g. reading rhyming books, making up silly rhymes.

Mombie · 17/07/2025 11:30

Practise using the phonic cards that they use at school. Use lots of robot talk (m-u-m then mum) so that they can hear individual sounds being put together.

Some children can identify individual sounds but find the blending (putting them together to read words) tricky. So for example can say individual sounds in c- a-t but then to read you have to go back and remember the first sound. Often children get stuck on the last sound that they have just said or guess the word. Playing segmenting and blending games can help.

TeenToTwenties · 17/07/2025 11:19

Phonics is part of speech and language.
Yes you are right to be concerned.

I would be asking school at what point will an EHC Needs Assessment become appropriate.

OneRealRosePlayer · 17/07/2025 11:15

practice his letter sounds. Also use books that have rhymes. Identifying rhyming words and listening to the sounds in words is the first stage. "Phonics play" is great for games and resources. "Teach your monsters to read" also fantastic

doodleschnoodle · 17/07/2025 11:08

Well, speech and language is intrinsically linked with phonics, so if he’s getting extra support then it should link in to the reading curriculum too. What have school advised? What kind of plan does he have in place currently?

Snorlaxo · 17/07/2025 11:06

Have you had his vision and hearing checked?