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To be pretty annoyed/creeped out by this incoming internet age verification thing

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:11

Kids are as good as anyone at VPNs. It's just going to open adults up to blackmail and state control.

Also if you don't want your kids looking at adult material maybe don't let them have a smartphone until they're 16.

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 20:12

EmeraldRoulette · 16/07/2025 20:07

@Fragmentedbrain please could you tell me what you're actually talking about? We seem to get a lot of threads talking about bills and laws that haven't actually passed yet. I guess this is one of those - please could you provide a link?

I'm not going to start giving proof of age to MN for example. So that sounds like a problem. I'm only aware of it in relation to porn sites which seems fair enough.

You're only aware of that because you think of yourself as a good girl who doesn't access adult content. You're accessing adult content right now. The one upside all of this is that porn judgers are going to realise they're not on some separate moral planet.

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EmeraldRoulette · 16/07/2025 20:07

@Fragmentedbrain please could you tell me what you're actually talking about? We seem to get a lot of threads talking about bills and laws that haven't actually passed yet. I guess this is one of those - please could you provide a link?

I'm not going to start giving proof of age to MN for example. So that sounds like a problem. I'm only aware of it in relation to porn sites which seems fair enough.

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 20:04

GreenGully · 16/07/2025 19:42

Nanny state and government overreach. What can we expect from comrade Kier. He wants worry about his own shady shenanigans, unexplained connections to foreign rent boys cough, cough

It was a Tory Bill...

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GreenGully · 16/07/2025 19:42

Nanny state and government overreach. What can we expect from comrade Kier. He wants worry about his own shady shenanigans, unexplained connections to foreign rent boys cough, cough

GrandHighPoohbah · 16/07/2025 19:26

I think anything that helps prevent age - inappropriate content being accessed by children is a step forward. And before the OP comes bleating back about it all being on parents to disallow phones, there are a large number of pathways to digital content without owning a phone. A combination of parental and government control is better than just parental control. Now, if they could get to work on the algorithms that seek out teenage boys and serve them up incel bollocks, that would be a good next step.

Disturbia81 · 16/07/2025 19:21

No-one needs porn.

despairofbadscience · 16/07/2025 19:16

What are you so worried about! Genuinely

StillCreatingAName · 16/07/2025 19:12

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 19:00

If you can have sex at 16 you can cope with seeing a digital dingdong at 16

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Exactly, so I’m confused by your point then- are you suggesting that children under 16 will still have access to the sites that are classified as for over 18, on their smartphones?

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 19:00

StillCreatingAName · 16/07/2025 18:57

16 seems arbitrary if you’re concerned that children will still have access to material which will be defined as illegal for them to see if under 18?

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If you can have sex at 16 you can cope with seeing a digital dingdong at 16

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StillCreatingAName · 16/07/2025 18:57

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:11

Kids are as good as anyone at VPNs. It's just going to open adults up to blackmail and state control.

Also if you don't want your kids looking at adult material maybe don't let them have a smartphone until they're 16.

16 seems arbitrary if you’re concerned that children will still have access to material which will be defined as illegal for them to see if under 18?

LauraNorda · 16/07/2025 18:50

LlynTegid · 16/07/2025 18:14

I support this change and want it consistently enforced. Even better if some sites withdraw from being available in the UK.

Someone doesn't know how the internet works.

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:47

FumbDucker · 16/07/2025 18:43

Notes Reddit is adopting this also, I think we need to go further with this personally and have apps like Snapchat require ID verification to stop all the Middle Aged creeps presenting as youngsters…

Again... Why not just ban kids from smartphones? It would be good for their half rotten brains.

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FumbDucker · 16/07/2025 18:43

Notes Reddit is adopting this also, I think we need to go further with this personally and have apps like Snapchat require ID verification to stop all the Middle Aged creeps presenting as youngsters…

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:41

Maybe it will have to offshore and become MuttisNett or sthg

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:40

Boing98 · 16/07/2025 18:36

Mumsnet will likely be covered by this due to the 18+ topics and language used on the site

Yep. I remember when everyone's details were leaked by that TRA person. Wonder how happy folk will be to post when effectively potentially public.

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Boing98 · 16/07/2025 18:36

Mumsnet will likely be covered by this due to the 18+ topics and language used on the site

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/07/2025 18:35

It's just going to open adults up to blackmail and state control.

Blackmail? Catch yerself on.😂😂😂

2024onwardsandup · 16/07/2025 18:32

Malvaceae · 16/07/2025 18:20

You use the term ‘state control’ as if the state is automatically evil. Thank goodness for state control. It’s what makes for a civilised society.

Quite. What do you think laws against murder and rape are? What do you think traffic lights are?

Malvaceae · 16/07/2025 18:20

You use the term ‘state control’ as if the state is automatically evil. Thank goodness for state control. It’s what makes for a civilised society.

BusWankers · 16/07/2025 18:20

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:14

Exactly. Anything arbitrarily badged "adult material" is now behind a wall. (Although I do also think it's an egregious invasion of adult sexuality but I know mumsnet takes a dim view of that)

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So what?

What's wrong with that?

BusWankers · 16/07/2025 18:19

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:15

But your kids will still see it on the phones you still allow them because they're better at tech than you.

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My kid isn't better at tech than me.

2024onwardsandup · 16/07/2025 18:17

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:14

Exactly. Anything arbitrarily badged "adult material" is now behind a wall. (Although I do also think it's an egregious invasion of adult sexuality but I know mumsnet takes a dim view of that)

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It’s not arbitrary is it? Safeguarding is never perfect - what’s better - decreasing the risk of abuse especially to children or sometimes stopping an aduot
getting off (often to trafficked people being abused)

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:17

TerrierCollector · 16/07/2025 18:15

And it takes about 2 minutes to learn how to install a VPN anyway, so I don’t see what good it’s going to do really.

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It will catch naive people only, a bit like inheritance tax.

Unless the next step is to ban VPNs...

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TerrierCollector · 16/07/2025 18:15

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:14

Exactly. Anything arbitrarily badged "adult material" is now behind a wall. (Although I do also think it's an egregious invasion of adult sexuality but I know mumsnet takes a dim view of that)

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And it takes about 2 minutes to learn how to install a VPN anyway, so I don’t see what good it’s going to do really.

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Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:15

LlynTegid · 16/07/2025 18:14

I support this change and want it consistently enforced. Even better if some sites withdraw from being available in the UK.

But your kids will still see it on the phones you still allow them because they're better at tech than you.

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