To be pretty annoyed/creeped out by this incoming internet age verification thing

It's unremarkable that 3 male 'models' were setting fire to the PMs property? Ok.

Hopefully that'll cut down on the number of bots and trolls.

Don't you think it's about time nudity and sex stopped being legal content?
Once it's on the Internet the individual has no way of taking it down. Therefore there is no way of knowing if the person still gives consent, or whether they even initially did. There's laws around revenge porn when reported, but no laws around the insane amount of intimate images and videos online.

Agree - and unfortunately they have already started making inroads into preventing VPNS from being useful.

I was just talking to my husband about my future plans. I will be ditching everything with Google, stop using Gmail and using only Proton mail, I will pay for an upgrade too. I will use safer browsing sites, Brave is ok, but will look into that. I will continue using my VPN where I can. I will not sign up for or continue to use any sites that insist upon a video of my face (as some have already started to do). I will be using the VPN on all my devices, not just my tablet/computer as I currently do. I will look into the least intrusive mobile phones, I already have a tech wizard friend researching that, and if necessary will go back to using a brick, if I can find one that doesn't track movements, comments etc.

The only place I probably can't get out of it is when banks start to insist on biometrics/videos - as they will. Aside from that, I will go out of my way not to let any government link up comments like this with me in real life, for as long as I can, and hope the public wakes up to itself sooner rather than later.

Oh I agree it’s never been about protecting kids
the government couldn’t care less about kids
they never have and never will
its just that think of the kids and stop the porn looks & sounds much better to the general public

than we want to know everything you are up to so we can throw you in jail if you dare to disagree with us

if they said this then the government would he out on their ass quicker than you could show a bare ass

but at the moment you can get around it with a VPN that’s not to say that won’t change

You cannot get around it with a VPN, but I already use one and a throwaway email for any comments like this online, becuause in the UK (and in Aus) the thought police have already arrested and harassed many people for being dissidents. That's what the entire scheme is about, they want to put a face and a name to absolutely everything that is said anywhere online, so they can add you to a list.

Forcing someone to make a video of their face while they are talking removes the usefulness of a vpn. They are also going to prevent people from using vpns, that's next on the list.

Anyone who thinks this is paranoia has not been paying attention to history. Pol Pot, Chairman Mao and Hitler would have been delighted by this scheme.

It's not about protecting children, never has been, never will be. They just needed something the twits could point to as a "reason" while they hand over their right to free speech and freedom of expression.

Yeah and all you do is use a vpn
are you really going to trust external sites with your personal details

I mean our government only this week has shown how easy it is to lose data and how happy they are to lie and get super injunctions to hide this from the general public

anyone who hands over their data / photos to these verification sites are stupid

just use a vpn and nothing changes
over on Reddit there already chatting how to get around it and recommending the best vpns to use

well the bonus ladies is if you suddenly see a load of VPN apps on your partners phone and he’s never bothered using them before chances are it’s due to this

Who is the vpns companies or the adult sites

Or perhaps the fact that most porn involves exploitation, abuse and rape is actually what’s shameful. Frankly no-one should be able to access it given the harm it causes.

They're going to ask for a video of your face, with you moving and talking. Some places have already started.

Oh ffs, stop lecturing normal people who don't like women being raped, drugged, trafficked and forced to commit fucking horrifying acts not to mention the grotesque amount of underage filmed rape there is on porn sites. Most porn isn't sex, at the very best most of it is completely unrealistic and huge quantities of it are exactly as I just said. Most of it should be taken down, prosecutions made and nobody, not one single person alive, needs it or would be in any way worse off if it all disppeared overnight.

You already know that every single word I just typed is absolutely true.

We get it, you're porn addicted. Nobody cares. Next.

OR: You take responsibility for your own ID and porn access.

It’s hardly the end of the world. You can still have a wank you know. It seems very important to you to see sex videos, and you will still be able to do that.

Digital id won’t stop kids accessing inappropriate material. Just like drugs being illegal doesn’t stop the increasing number of weed smokers wandering around city centres.

Some parents will allow their child to use their device. Not all parents care if their 9 year old is playing GTA or Call of Duty. Some parents allow their 14 year olds to vape in the house.

So some parents or older siblings or cousins or 18 year old friends will think it’s funny or normal for 14 year olds to watch porn or violent videos. They will give them access to it. Then, if they can be bothered, the teen could use a second device to record the imagery on the screen and distribute to their mates. A bit like recording your mates new cd in the 90s.

Digital ID also assumes adults are on board. And is 16 the new age of adulthood after today’s announcement?

I don't think you need to be some sort of expert to use a VPN, it is fairly basic for anyone to do, whatever age unless maybe you were about 90

Just to note the italicised bit wasn't my quote.

what do you suggest instead to protect kids?

In respect to the relationship between parent and child, yes.

In respect to the relationship between state and parent, no.

Just me being my usual cynical self, and I'm no fan of Starmer, but if I'm some foreign power known for engaging in psyops, honeytraps, and disinformation campaigns, and I want to discredit and emasculate a hostile politician, hiring some men to attack or destroy property belonging to that politician, and throwing in a whole load of innuendo and slander designed to cast aspersions about both his sexuality and his marital fidelity would be a pretty easy way to go about it. Put it this way; I don't think many people in the UK would actually give a toss about Starmer's personal sexual preferences. There are other, recent PM's who were not entirely what they professed to be in public and it made not one iota of difference, however, there are certain countries where that sort of thing is still considered make or break, and this is reflected in the fact that they mistakenly believe this also must be the case in every other part of the planet, and this is also reflected in the somewhat naive way they still conduct their dirty business outside of their own sphere of influence.

The radio silence about motives or how these men knew so much about Kier to the point of burning a car he had sold! is all rather fishy.

Probably more because it's unremarkable. There is very little that can't be winkled out from publicly available information if you know what you are doing and are prepared to pay a bit. All it takes is a few terabytes to store the incessant stream of data leaks, a bit of analytics and you could divine a lot from little. These days it's probably easier to find out more about people who have little or no online presence compared to people who live life online 😁

Third man charged over fires at homes linked to Keir Starmer - BBC News

The rumour is some of these men had Grindr accounts...
The radio silence about motives or how these men knew so much about Kier to the point of burning a car he had sold! is all rather fishy. One might say the actions of a scorned.....

But in my opinion this should be done anyway, and there should be a belt and braces approach with ISPs for example letting parents know that VPNs are being used on specific devices.

Similar to the Chinese approach then. With the added frisson that people using VPNs lose social points