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Deaf mum exploited by locksmith

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DanikaHill · 15/07/2025 20:19

Hello mums, lurker here, finally joing Mumsnet although for a reason I'm not thrilled by... Hopefully somebody can help me.

Today my deaf mum was locked out of her house so after googling Fast Locksmith London my mum clicked on this company that sent a man around to her address (her neighbour rang the number)... Turns out it's a scam.

After changing the lock the man told her hearing neighbour he would charge my mum £300, but ended up charging her £855.

The 'invoice' was a piece of paper with no VAT number (although VAT was charged) and a logo for a totally different company.

When I found out I called the guy who changed the lock (he left his number on the piece of paper) but but he said he didn't remember and to call the head office. I rang the 'office', a guy picked up saying this was a hotline not the head office, and that he couldn't give me the head office number and he couldn't help, and that I was inconveniencing him! I'll try calling them again tomorrow but something is very wrong here.

How these people can happily rip off a elderly deaf lady living alone is beyond me. It's so upsetting.

Does anyone have some advice for what my options are at this point?

She paid by debit so I don't think the bank can cancel the payment now.

What's more I was with her yesterday... If only this had happened when I was there... She's devastated but was afraid to not pay this man.

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WhichCity2visit · 16/07/2025 14:26

Suggest your DM gets a couple of spare keys cut

SunDash · 16/07/2025 14:24

Contact the police, and maybe aged concern.
It sounds like organized extortion/crime.

1offnamechange · 16/07/2025 14:22

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 23:41

He may not have paypal. What then? Just give the account numbee and sort code

It's free and easy to set up

Why would you want to give a complete crook your account details, when he already knows your name, address and phone number?

DanikaHill · 16/07/2025 14:15

It would be a great sport I have to say. Worthy of the Olympics.

I have also resorted to naming and shaming. It's just the beginning... (and yes the man has several other company names in his past that he's been switching up rather like yours did). When it's your mum it hurts different.

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Catsandcannedbeans · 16/07/2025 12:55

My mum was ripped off last year and I was genuinely furious. We did get her money back but trading standards ect were a bit useless, so I basically plastered his face everywhere online (local fb, watssapp, ect). It probably did amount to an online harassment campaign if I am completely honest but I don’t care, she’s my mum.

Try trading standards ect first, and if you do end up going down the name and shame route, mention that you have done that in your posts. When we posted the guy, several others came forward and it turns out he had changed his business name to avoid all the bad reviews.

Also, reassure your mum that it wasn’t her fault it was him. My mum’s confidence was actually pretty knocked and she kept saying she was stupid and old. Seeing her like that made me want to hunt that man through the woods for sport, but I didn’t think I could get away with that.

Spanador · 16/07/2025 12:17

AntFarmer · 15/07/2025 22:43

Definitely report but unfortunately I suspect you don't stand a chance of getting anything back. I'm very sorry for your mum.

(On a different subject, it's fascinating noticing who the pp is who thinks scammers 'deserve a second chance' when they've just purposely scammed a Deaf woman out of a lot of money.)

Exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes I think people forget how recognisable their usernames are

DanikaHill · 16/07/2025 12:08

Hi everyone. Thank you all so much for all your comments, advice and links, it's been a huge help.

So the bank told us that because she signed the piece of paper with £855 written on it there's not much they can do (despite the fact this is an elderly deaf lady who lives alone being told by a large man to sign a piece of paper and give him money)

I filed a report on ActionFraud and will soon contact the Master Locksmith Association.

I called the number on the website and said I would report them to the police. They said the manager would call me in a minute. The manager called me, would not give his name, confirm the company name, give a VAT number, nothing. He said they opened the door for her and could charge whatever price they wanted.

The company address is registered to a house split into flats in north London and the address on the website is another one (so the number of the address is there but not the flat, eg: 7 instead of 7A or 7D) so I dont have a full address, the full name of the locksmith or the full name of the man claiming to be the manager speaking to me on the phone. I do however have the full name of the man the company is registered to so I will see what I can do with that...

I'm not going to let this go because they will continue to fleece people. Doing this to my deaf mum has made this personal and I'm angry now more than upset.

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Namechangedtocomment · 16/07/2025 01:45

Namechangedtocomment · 16/07/2025 01:45

Are you serious?

Or are you the locksmith?

Namechangedtocomment · 16/07/2025 01:45

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 21:55

true but I believe in second chances

Are you serious?

Givenupshopping · 16/07/2025 01:09

I saw an article about this sort of scam on TV a while back, they pointed out that when people are in a panic they tend to Google and then pick the first company on the list, which of course are the ones who pay to be there, and sadly often tend to be scammers. It was recommended, that everyone watching, took the time that day, to look up a proper local locksmith, or ask for local recommendations, and then put the number in their phone, so that when and if it were to happen to you, you could just call, and feel confident you were getting someone who wasn't a scammer.

Givenupshopping · 16/07/2025 01:02

anniegun · 15/07/2025 21:03

Try your local trading standards. We had a presentation from ours and they deal with this sort of thing all the time. There are some wide ranging offences for overcharging in circumstances like this (much more protection than I believed). They will often pick up the case where someone is vulnerable and do the legwork required. Police may brush this off as a civil matter but it is not

Just in case you're not aware, you need to go through Citizen's Advice in order to get Trading Standards involved OP.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 16/07/2025 00:39

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 21:49

it will be hard to prove what was said maybe unfortunately let this one go

I really don't think OP (or her mother) should "let this one go". Someone has, in effect, stolen a large amount of money. At the very least, it would be good to make others aware of the potential for being scammed. Our police force releases newsletters about various issues and, sadly, scamming, in all its forms, is one of the most frequent topics. They gather information about the scams currently doing the rounds and make sure people know about them. I suspect you wouldn't be quite so forgiving if it had been you or your mother who had lost much money.

SprayWhiteDung · 15/07/2025 23:49

Utter scum. The going market rate for emergency locksmiths can be reasonably lucrative for not a lot of difficult work as it is, so he could already make a decent living just working honestly.

It may also be worth reporting him to HMRC - give them his number and any other details you can relating to his online presence - for not giving you a valid VAT number, despite asking.

I doubt they take very kindly to people charging 'VAT' supposedly on their behalf, which never makes it anywhere near them. I'd assume that it counts as fraud/criminal. Let alone all the money that he is earning/extorting and never declaring to them.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 23:41

1offnamechange · 15/07/2025 23:28

message the number saying because of issues you've had with your mum's cleaner/carers/social worker (anything vaguely plausible) you've got cctv installed in her house and have clear footage of everything he did and what he looks like, plus the neighbour willing to give a witness statement, so he has 12hrs to return the money to you via paypal (don't give him your bank details) or you're going to the police.

Honestly I'm not sure the police would really do anything but he might pay up to avoid the potential. If you get nowhere then plaster this all over the local fb groups.

He may not have paypal. What then? Just give the account numbee and sort code

Gabitule · 15/07/2025 23:33

The bank can charge back the amount she paid until the company proves that they carried out the work agreed for the cost agreed. I doubt they can justify the increase from £300 to more than £800

1offnamechange · 15/07/2025 23:28

message the number saying because of issues you've had with your mum's cleaner/carers/social worker (anything vaguely plausible) you've got cctv installed in her house and have clear footage of everything he did and what he looks like, plus the neighbour willing to give a witness statement, so he has 12hrs to return the money to you via paypal (don't give him your bank details) or you're going to the police.

Honestly I'm not sure the police would really do anything but he might pay up to avoid the potential. If you get nowhere then plaster this all over the local fb groups.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:45

AntFarmer · 15/07/2025 22:43

Definitely report but unfortunately I suspect you don't stand a chance of getting anything back. I'm very sorry for your mum.

(On a different subject, it's fascinating noticing who the pp is who thinks scammers 'deserve a second chance' when they've just purposely scammed a Deaf woman out of a lot of money.)

what's that meant to mean? I was trying to help OP

CursiveCrisis · 15/07/2025 22:45

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:43

ah I assumed they had completed the work apologies.

Nope, wrecked the garden and disappeared. Absolutely broke mum as like OP said, Deaf people especially, put a lot of trust into hearing people.

This was a few years ago but still makes me mad, as you can probably tell!

AntFarmer · 15/07/2025 22:43

Definitely report but unfortunately I suspect you don't stand a chance of getting anything back. I'm very sorry for your mum.

(On a different subject, it's fascinating noticing who the pp is who thinks scammers 'deserve a second chance' when they've just purposely scammed a Deaf woman out of a lot of money.)

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:43

CursiveCrisis · 15/07/2025 22:42

The pricks who did it. The state condition of the garden before, how they left it and who they were to try and locate them. They disappeared after getting money off her and leaving the garden needing thousands of pounds worth of work to fix it to how it was.

ah I assumed they had completed the work apologies.

Thelnebriati · 15/07/2025 22:42

OP I don't want to worry you but check he only got her in to her house and didn't actually change her locks, because if he did she needs to call out a real locksmith and get them changed again in case he kept a copy of the keys.

CursiveCrisis · 15/07/2025 22:42

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:26

What would cctv show here as a genuine question?

The pricks who did it. The state condition of the garden before, how they left it and who they were to try and locate them. They disappeared after getting money off her and leaving the garden needing thousands of pounds worth of work to fix it to how it was.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:38

cyvguhb · 15/07/2025 22:27

You really are, this has been a problem for ages, their whole job is ripping people off

maybe OP could set up a go fund me for re imbursement

KeenGreen · 15/07/2025 22:33

I’m so sorry this happened.

Definitely speak to the bank and report it they may be able to do a charge back or might refund it.
Last year I got scammed for a roof box was about £180 (feel very ashamed about it now but at the time felt genuine). This was a bank transfer I reported to bank who directed me to action fraud for a report and they refunded the money and I had to read some policies and information about fraud. But the bank sorted it.
Good luck!

cyvguhb · 15/07/2025 22:27

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 22:24

sorry maybe i'm being naive

You really are, this has been a problem for ages, their whole job is ripping people off

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