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4 yrs for cutting down tree, no jail time for rape

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Barnbrack · 15/07/2025 19:45

Why are 2 men being given custodial sentences for cutting down a tree when men convicted of rape regularly get suspended sentences.

Is an important tree more important than a random woman! Justice system seems to think so.

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dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 20:04

Fighting fish it's just a trees doesn't do it justice. It was iconic and famous the world over.mindless violence is a separate issue to Rape.which should be dealt with harshly. However one doesn't preclude the other and both should be punished accordingly. As far as feeling sorry for them Save your tears for the NT and many tree lovers and oxygen fans .we can't live without these wonderful plants!

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 15/07/2025 20:04

Well1mBack · 15/07/2025 20:00

Jesus. It's just relentless and never ending. Another Scottish case that stayed with me was that poor girl who was raped and murdered by her BROTHER who then dumped her body and another man came across it and raped her dead body. With that and Gisele in France I am just done with men. Generally as I actually do have a lovely DH and boys and a dad. But I rant a lot at them now. To make them understand.

Yep, our amazing progressive Scottish government where they hate women and men under 25 are deemed exempt from any criminal responsibility.

I welcome the four years, I just think other crimes should be more. The man on 24 Hours should’ve got 20 at least.

Dangermoo · 15/07/2025 20:03

FightingFish · 15/07/2025 19:54

4 years is extremely harsh. These idiots should be punished but not locked up. I actually feel sorry for them.

I feel sorry for the poor tree, not this riff-raff.

ObelixtheGaul · 15/07/2025 20:01

dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 19:52

I voted yabu because we are looking at 2 very different crimes here.Rape is abhorrent .and completely unacceptable. The problem seems to be we live in a patriarchal society still.Men should 100 per cent be jaied for Rape crimes.Howevet the 2 idiots who felled a landmark tree famous world wide were well out of order.they were rightly jailed .At least to stop others following and doing likewise.they appear to be caught up in some sort of dispute with NT apparently.

It was a tree. Yes, they should be punished. But, leaving aside rape for a moment, many violent crimes against actual human beings don't carry that level of sentence.

It's a ridiculous sentence.

Well1mBack · 15/07/2025 20:00

dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 19:57

Well1 am back Agree 100 per cent .a dreadful case today .a young woman apparently "worked too hard" so her delightful boyfriend cut her head off! Hopefully a life sentence aesits

Jesus. It's just relentless and never ending. Another Scottish case that stayed with me was that poor girl who was raped and murdered by her BROTHER who then dumped her body and another man came across it and raped her dead body. With that and Gisele in France I am just done with men. Generally as I actually do have a lovely DH and boys and a dad. But I rant a lot at them now. To make them understand.

ExtraOnions · 15/07/2025 19:58

Barnbrack · 15/07/2025 19:54

It's a tree.

Criminal Damage, and Damage to a scheduled ancient monument … zero sympathy

ObelixtheGaul · 15/07/2025 19:58

YANBU. I was watching a truly awful episode of 24 hours in police custody last week. This man had thousands of images and videos of girls in their late teens/early twenties, video footage of him raping girls obviously not fully conscious. Victims had no idea what he did to them.

10 years he got because he pleaded guilty to one count of rape, one count of voyeurism and one count of public exposure. 10 years for a vile individual who groomed young women, got them to his flat, got them so drunk/drugged they couldn't consent. Footage included him dragging a young woman, unconscious, across a concrete floor. She was naked.

When someone gets 4 years for chopping down a tree, 10 years for all that individual did is doubly insulting, as if it wasn't insulting enough.

dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 19:57

Well1 am back Agree 100 per cent .a dreadful case today .a young woman apparently "worked too hard" so her delightful boyfriend cut her head off! Hopefully a life sentence aesits

SALaw · 15/07/2025 19:54

Source for claiming men convicted of rape regularly receive suspended sentences?

FightingFish · 15/07/2025 19:54

4 years is extremely harsh. These idiots should be punished but not locked up. I actually feel sorry for them.

Barnbrack · 15/07/2025 19:54

dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 19:52

I voted yabu because we are looking at 2 very different crimes here.Rape is abhorrent .and completely unacceptable. The problem seems to be we live in a patriarchal society still.Men should 100 per cent be jaied for Rape crimes.Howevet the 2 idiots who felled a landmark tree famous world wide were well out of order.they were rightly jailed .At least to stop others following and doing likewise.they appear to be caught up in some sort of dispute with NT apparently.

It's a tree.

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dottiedodah · 15/07/2025 19:52

I voted yabu because we are looking at 2 very different crimes here.Rape is abhorrent .and completely unacceptable. The problem seems to be we live in a patriarchal society still.Men should 100 per cent be jaied for Rape crimes.Howevet the 2 idiots who felled a landmark tree famous world wide were well out of order.they were rightly jailed .At least to stop others following and doing likewise.they appear to be caught up in some sort of dispute with NT apparently.

ExtraOnions · 15/07/2025 19:49

The minimum sentence for Rape in the UK is 4 years.

Well1mBack · 15/07/2025 19:47

Misogyny. Women are sub humans. Etc. patriarchy is still alive and well sadly. Also where I am in scotland a man who raped a young child multiple times in a park got community service as the court ruled he was "too young" at the time being 23. The young girl who is probably about 15 now is too scared to go about the neighbourhood where he is. The more you read about what happens to women and young girls the more depressing it is.